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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: Heat Death of the Internet |
| Date | 2024-05-02 12:34 +0200 |
| Organization | i2pn2 (i2pn.org) |
| Message-ID | <958148f2-2fb7-bd01-4fbd-3360fed32a35@example.net> (permalink) |
| References | <slrnv3635e.i47.bencollver@svadhyaya.localdomain> |
Fascinating how different experiences and life choices can be! Let me contrast this with some clips from my own life. Obviously this is based on where I live in northern europe so of course my experience does not apply equally to yours. On Thu, 2 May 2024, Ben Collver wrote: > Heat Death of the Internet > ========================== > 4 April 2024 > > You want to order from a local restaurant, but you need to download a > third-party delivery app, even though you plan to pick it up > yourself. The prices and menu on the app are different to what you For app only restaurants I don't go to them, because I don't have a smartphone. I have my favourite restaurants and there I can either call to order, or order through their web site from my laptop. If app-only restaurants become too common, the market will makes sure that phone+web order/delivery will capture the remaining niche. > woman behind the counter says they have to contact the company who > designed the site for changes, which will cost them, but most people > just order through an app anyway. I've experience a few of those, and never bothered. Eventually they disappear. > You want to watch the trailer for an upcoming movie on YouTube but > you first have to sit through an ad. Then you sit through a preview > for the trailer itself. Then you watch the trailer, which is > literally another ad. When it ends, it cues up a new trailer, with a > new ad at the start of it. I block all ads, so never see ads on youtube. I often think about how the world would be if everyone has adblockers installed. How would google & co try and smash that, since their economy would be threatened? As for videos, I frequent torrent sites, and yt-dlp enables me to download videos from many streaming sites, including public tv-stations who have online tv from all over the world. > The first page of Google results are links to pages that have scraped > other pages for information from other pages that have been scraped > for information. All the sources seem to link back to one another. > There is no origin. The photos on the page look weird. The hands are > disfigured. There is no image credit. I stopped using google. I use ddg.com and startpage.com. Adblockers in the browser of course, but the occasional bad web site slips through. I find that the most useful web sites are spread by word of mouth, and less so, stumbled upon. > Your coworker sends you a PowerPoint pack to support a presentation > you are giving to the executive committee, but you can't make heads > or tails of it. You call them over Zoom and they tell you they used > ChatGPT to write it. You point out that it is near-unreadable, and > they ask what specifically is wrong with it. You mention that, for > starters, there are too many words on each slide. They tell you > they'll take care of it. They send you a new pack within the hour > saying they asked ChatGPT to remove 30% of the text. It makes even > less sense. You tell them you'll just rewrite it yourself. Fortunately never happened. I have heard horror stories of 2 people at a company trading gpt texts each feeding the output of the other into gpt responding. I have used gpt for nonsense-documents like environmental and gender plans which just need to be there to tick a government box, but are never read or acted upon. I find that gpt excels as writing walls of text that no one ever reads, but that the government requires (sometimes) for public tenders. > A billionaire got mad, bought your favourite social media site and > ran it into the ground. A different billionaire got mad, bought the > magazine site you liked to read on your lunchbreak and shut it down > completely. A third billionaire did what they do best, bought the app > you use for networking and sold it off for parts. Don't have any social media except mastodon and usenet. Couldn't care less that mad billionaires spend their dollars on. If people leave social media I would actually see that as a net benefit for society. > You want to watch a TV show from your youth so you check a streaming > service, but it is not there, so you check a second streaming service > but it is not there, so you check a third streaming service and it is > not there. You search for it on Blu-ray but it doesn't exist, so you > search for it on DVD but it is out of print. You find a seller on > eBay who has it, but the listing reads ambiguous as to whether it is > the real thing or a burnt copy. You message the seller and they reply > with an automated response thanking you for your interest. Here I find youtube and local public tv channels online to be good sources. But this is an interesting point. Sometimes I think about if a campaign to rescue old dvd:s and blueray:s would be successful? The idea is to ask people to send me dvd:s and bluerays they no longer want and build up a library. Where I live it is legal to lend out dvd:s as long as its for private use and no money is involved. Imagine an Alexandria of old dvd:s and bluerays which people could borrow, rip, and return. Would anyone be interested? > You can't read the recipe on your phone because it prioritises the > ads on the page. You bring your laptop into the kitchen and whenever > you scroll down, you have to close a pop-up. You turn AdBlock on and > the page no longer loads, then AdBlock sends you an ad asking for > money. I read recipes from recipe books, alternatively I have textfiles or scanned recipes on my laptop. > The Airbnb charges you a $150 cleaning fee, but insists the place > needs to be left spotless. There will be a fee if the bedding hasn't > been stripped and the dishwasher hasn't been emptied. Oh yes... I avoid the airbnb scam. It was great in the beginning but somewhere they started to add a lot of extra fees, and the quality dropped dramatically. Nowadays it's hotels only. > Your Uber driver is lost because his app hasn't updated and keeps > telling him to turn down streets that no longer exist. You still give > him five stars. Uber is probably my biggest pain. I don't have a smartphone so I have to order taxis the old fashioned way, and that means I have to pay 2x-3x the amount compared with Uber. Either someone I travel with has an app, or I pay 2-3x and take it as the extra cost of my mental health and see it as well invested money. ;) There are also services that enable you to order a taxi online, through your web browser, but they are also more expensive and not as common. It depends on the country. > Your mother sends you a link to a breaking story, but the article is > behind a paywall, so you switch to the website where you do pay for > news but there's no mention of it. I share a mainstream news subscription with other familymembers, so there's no paywall and I mostly read the news in the form of a downloadable pdf. In addition I watch the free news of the government public television and the TV-text pages. Overall a goal I have is to minimize my news consumption down to zero, because the older I get, the less I find that I care and I also find that it does not affect my life positively. > You buy a microwave and receive ads for microwaves. You buy a > mattress and receive ads for mattresses. Yes, this happens. > Strangers on social media assume you are American and get mad when > you correct them. Never happens. > Your Gmail is approaching storage capacity. I pay for my email and download all, so never any capacity problems. > Your smart TV needs new firmware. I never upgrade and I don't have TV. My TV is basically a monitor for my computer or my TV-computer in the form of a radxa zero running kodi. > Your phone schedules an update. No smart phone, web based calendar only. Sometimes I struggle to understand the every day of people who are not working with technology and even young people who are brought up on social media and slck/discord. My life seems more calm, and less exposed to ads and generally more peaceful than most people. I wonder if people in general will rediscover old school technology, or if things will become worse?
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Heat Death of the Internet Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2024-05-02 03:54 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-02 12:34 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Oregonian Haruspex <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-02 12:05 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-02 14:47 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:39 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2024-05-02 14:01 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-02 21:20 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:26 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-03 08:52 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-03 09:36 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-05-03 11:19 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Marco Moock <mm+usenet@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-03 11:32 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:32 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-04 08:58 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-05-06 16:43 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-07 08:20 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-05-12 13:06 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-05-04 14:01 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-03 11:30 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-05-04 08:39 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-05-04 13:03 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-28 08:34 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-28 14:40 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-28 19:15 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-29 08:51 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-29 11:06 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-30 08:20 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-30 16:40 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-31 08:16 +1000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-31 11:11 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-07-31 12:13 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-31 12:45 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-31 22:02 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-31 20:28 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-07-31 19:01 -0300
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-01 11:00 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-08-01 10:56 -0300
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-02 22:06 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-08-02 21:24 +0100
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-03 14:09 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-08-04 02:35 -0300
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-04 11:07 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-08-04 17:21 -0300
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-05 15:08 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-02 05:40 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-08-02 15:45 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-03 15:10 +0000
Re: Heat Death of the Internet D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-02 22:07 +0200
Re: Heat Death of the Internet candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-08-03 15:10 +0000
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