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Re: getFirstDayOfMonth()

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: getFirstDayOfMonth()
Date 2024-03-02 14:22 -0800
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porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) writes:
> Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> If I may suggest:
>> 
>> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap12.html
>> 
>> '-h'  or '-?' have traditionally been used to display
>> usage information for an utility.
>
> Yep, it will definitely be '-?' (still working to finalize things).

I wouldn't use '-?'.  The '?' character is a wildcard in most Unix
shells.  If you happen to have a file in the current directory that
matches the pattern, it will expand to the name of that file.  If you
don't, the behavior depends on the shell and settings.

    $ ls -l
    total 0
    -rw-r--r-- 1 kst kst 0 Mar  2 14:14 -h
    $ /bin/echo -?
    -h
    $

And most users of Unix-like systems won't expect '-?' to be an option;
'-h' is much more common.

> Many thanks for the link too btw.
>  
>>>Error levels returned:
>>>
>>>3  Option syntax errors
>>>2  File open-read errors
>>>1  Dates match today or matching tags
>>>0  No dates match today or no tags match
>> 
>> For commands defined by POSIX (and generally in
>> unix), an exit status of zero indicates success.
>
> Oh yeah. Have been wrestling with the potential
> consequences of this for a good while. I think I'm
> going leave it as is because, (only speaking for
> myself here) the POSIX 0 good, 1 bad is terrible.
> This is perhaps the only area I've ever seen where
> other OSs, like Windows, have a superior methodology
> on the issue. 0/1 provides next to no nuance. But
> I'm no expert, just my experience.

The C standard, not just POSIX, defines 0 as a successful status.  If
your program is intended to work on Unix-like systems (or on Windows if
I'm not mistaken), using a status of 0 to indicate an error will cause
problems.  Conventions exist for a reason.

Use 0 for success, 1 for unspecified errors, and other positive values
for more specific errors.

> Thanks again for the links Scott, I'll read them this
> weekend.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-01 03:48 +0000
  Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-03-01 15:39 +0000
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-01 17:12 +0100
      Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-01 08:28 -0800
        Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-01 17:33 +0100
          Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-01 17:37 +0100
            Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-01 10:34 -0800
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-01 22:03 +0100
        Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-01 17:20 +0000
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-01 16:47 +0000
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-01 17:56 +0100
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-01 17:18 +0000
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-01 20:47 +0000
      Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-01 21:38 +0000
        Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-01 21:50 +0000
          Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-03 09:52 -0800
        Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-02 00:00 +0000
          Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-02 14:46 +0000
            Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-02 16:41 +0100
            Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-02 19:59 +0000
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-02 22:14 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 18:08 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-05 03:03 +0100
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-02 14:22 -0800
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-03 15:43 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-03-03 18:45 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-03-03 18:42 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-03-04 09:49 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-04 11:31 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-03-04 14:23 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-04 17:27 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 17:34 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-04 17:40 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 18:11 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-04 18:26 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-03-04 18:30 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-04 19:01 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-05 03:09 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-05 15:06 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-05 02:56 +0100
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 02:49 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Mark Bourne <nntp.mbourne@spamgourmet.com> - 2024-03-06 20:40 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-06 20:54 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 17:26 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-04 17:34 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-04 10:07 -0800
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 23:47 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-04 16:10 -0800
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 00:12 +0000
                [OT] Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-05 03:18 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 02:55 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-05 15:03 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-05 13:25 -0800
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-03-04 21:21 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-05 00:37 +0200
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-05 11:41 +0200
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-14 15:57 -0700
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 23:35 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-05 03:20 +0100
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-03-03 04:06 -0500
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-04 18:21 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-03-04 14:42 -0500
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-04 14:50 -0800
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 00:40 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-03-05 01:27 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 02:40 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-05 15:05 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-04 17:39 -0800
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 02:43 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-05 01:08 +0200
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-03-05 00:18 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-04 16:33 -0800
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-03 15:24 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-03 20:20 +0200
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-03 18:56 +0000
            Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Mark Bourne <nntp.mbourne@spamgourmet.com> - 2024-03-03 13:17 +0000
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2024-03-02 02:49 +0100
      Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-03 09:47 -0800
        Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2024-03-04 02:26 +0100
      Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2024-03-05 14:03 +1100
        Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-03-05 13:19 +0000
          Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2024-03-13 05:40 +0100
            Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() jak <nospam@please.ty> - 2024-03-13 06:01 +0100
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-03-13 13:38 +0000
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-13 08:47 -0700
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-13 09:11 -0700
              Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-13 07:36 -0700
                Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-14 19:56 -0700
    Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-03-02 03:44 +0000
      Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2024-03-05 14:07 +1100
      Re: getFirstDayOfMonth() gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-03-05 13:30 +0000

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