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Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!?

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.misc, comp.programming
Subject Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!?
Date 2025-06-18 09:27 -0700
Organization None to speak of
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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:
> On 6/15/25 2:04 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:
>>> On 6/14/25 5:25 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> Frankly, Python is just generally 'better' these days.
>>>>> Maybe not AS 'concise' but more 'readable' AND easier
>>>>> to understand six months from now. The speed is now
>>>>> 'adequate' and Python-4 is supposed to be even faster.
>>>> Where are you getting your information?  There are no plans for
>>>> Python 4.
>>>
>>>    Nonsense ... search on it.
>> I did.
>
>   Umm ... I've seen a lot of juicy details
>   about Py4 over the past year .....
>
>   No, it won't show up this year - but MAYBE
>   next year. In any case they promise high
>   compatibility with Py3. The goal is more
>   'optimization' than underlying structure.
>
>>>    The PLAN is far fewer diffs than between P2 and P3,
>>>    just more optimization.
>>>
>>>    I'd say expect early releases within a year.
>> 
>> What is the basis for that claim?  Maybe you're right.  If so, you
>> shouldn't have any difficulty citing a credible source.
>> [...]
>
>   Wanna pay me for that much re-research ?

No, I'm asking you to support a remarkable claim that *you* made.
If what you say is true, it would be very interesting and I'd want
to know more about it.

>   This is usenet - take what you can get.
>
>   In any case, Python development is hardly
>   a big secret. Do some searching.

You claimed that I could easily verify that there are plans for
Python 4 by searching for it.  I searched for it, and found that
there are no such plans.  Limiting the search to python.org,
where any such plans would surely be posted, yields no results
other than speculation in open discussions (discuss.python.org).
You specifically said to "expect early releases within a year".
The result of my search specifically contradicted your claims.
I found one article misleadingly titled "Latest Update on Python
4.0" that says that "while Python 4.0 may be more of a speculative
idea than a forthcoming reality, the Python community can look
forward to ongoing enhancements within the Python 3.x series".
<https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/python/latest-update-on-python-4/>

If finding this information (to support *your* claim) is so easy,
you shouldn't have any problem providing a credible citation.  Your
failure/refusal to do so tells me that you are an unreliable source
of information, and that you have wasted my time.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-13 23:31 -0400
  Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 02:25 -0700
    Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 00:58 -0400
      Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 23:04 -0700
        Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> - 2025-06-15 14:46 +0100
          Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 13:44 -0700
            Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> - 2025-06-16 18:32 +0100
              Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 11:38 -0700
          Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-15 21:02 +0000
            Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> - 2025-06-16 18:34 +0100
              Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:07 +0000
        Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-17 23:38 -0400
          Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 09:27 -0700
            Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-19 01:30 -0400
              Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 02:23 -0700
                Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-20 01:27 -0400
                Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:32 -0700
  Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-08-06 16:30 +0200
    Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 08:17 -0700
      Re: Writing Python Code More Concisely Than Perl!? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-08-07 03:49 +0200

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