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Re: _BitInt(N)

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: _BitInt(N)
Date 2025-11-29 20:32 -0800
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bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 30/11/2025 00:46, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> On 29/11/2025 20:24, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/11/2025 20:26, David Brown wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/11/2025 19:35, bart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But now there is this huge leap, not only to 128/256/512/1024 bits,
>>>>>>> but to conceivably millions, plus the ability to specify any weird
>>>>>>> type you like, like 182 bits (eg. somebody makes a typo for
>>>>>>> _BitInt(128), but they silently get a viable type that happens to be a
>>>>>>> little less efficient!).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this huge leap also lets you have 128-bit, 256-bit, 512-bit, etc.,
>>>>>
>>>>> And 821 bits. This is what I don't get. Why is THAT so important?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why couldn't 128/256/etc have been added first, and then those funny
>>>>> ones if the demand was still there?
>>>>>
>>>>> If the proposal had instead been simply to extend the 'u8 u16 u32 u64'
>>>>> set of types by a few more entries on the right, say 'u128 u256 u512',
>>>>> would anyone have been clamouring for types like 'u1187'? I doubt it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For sub-64-bit types on conventional hardware, I simply can't see the
>>>>> point, not if they are rounded up anyway. Either have a full range-based
>>>>> types like Ada, or not at all.
>>>> First, _BitInt(821) (and _BitInt(1187)) are really unimportant.  You
>>>> simple get them as a byproduct of general rules.
>>>
>>> That they are allowed is the problem. People use them and expect the
>>> compiler to waste its time generating bit-precise code.
>> You are literally the only person I've seen complain about it.  And
>> you can avoid any such problem by not using unusual sizes in your
>> code.
>> 
>> You want to impose your arbitrary restrictions on the rest of us.
>> 
>> Do you even use _BitInt types?
>> 
>> Oh no, I can type (n + 1187), and it will yield the sum of n and
>> 1187.  Why would anyone want to add 1187 to an integer?  The language
>> should be changed (made more complicated) to forbid operations that
>> don't make obvious sense!!
>
> You seem to be mixing up values and types. Or are arguing for there to
> be nearly as many integer types as possible values.

You know that I understand the distinction between value and types.

I used (n + 1187) as an example of something that's not obviously
useful, but that is not the basis of a good argument that it should
be forbidden.

> Everyone in this group seems obsessed with not having any limitations
> at all in the language.

That's not true at all.

Let me be clear about what I've been saying.  If C23 had introduced
_BitInt types with the restrictions you want, I likely wouldn't have
complained.  I'm still not sure just what restrictions you want, but for
example, it could have required support for all widths up to the width
of uintmax_t (typically, but not necessarily, 64 bits), and multiples of
the width of uintmax_t up to an implementation-defined limit.  Or maybe
multiples of CHAR_BIT.  I would have been ok with that.

C23's definition is more flexible than that.  That flexibility has
apparently not caused problems for implementators (in fact clang
has a flexible version of the feature before it was added to C23).

And it's part of the ISO C standard, which makes it very difficult to
change.

I find it interesting that the C23 standard requires support for
*all* widths up to BITINT_MAXWIDTH, and that gcc and clang have
implemented that support.  I also find it interesting that sdcc
sets BITINT_MAXWIDTH to 64, which is also perfectly valid (and
happens to be consistent with the restrictions you want to impose,
if I understand them correctly).

What I usually discuss here is what the C standard actually says
and how to use it.

You, on the other hand, see a new feature and are offended by it
because it's more flexible than you think it should be.

> For example, gcc allows identifiers up to 4 billion characters along,
> or something (I think I've tested it with three 1-billion-character
> variables.)
>
> There was a discussion here about it. Of course, even
> million-character names would be totally impractical to work with. I'd
> have trouble with 256 characters (my own cap).

I haven't looked into this particular case, but I presume that the
implementers of gcc chose to implement their lexical analysis in
a way that does not implies a fixed limit on identifier lengths.
Using a billion-character identifier would be silly, but the gcc
developers apparently felt no need to go out of their way to forbid
such identifiers.  I have no problem with that, and I don't know
why you do.

Doctor, it hurts when I do this.

> The rationale for BitInts seems to be heading the same way. The work
> for billion-character variables as already 'been done'. That doesn't
> mean they are sensible or practical or efficient!

They are practical, in the sense that working implementations exist.

If you don't find them sensible, don't use them.

There are inefficiencies in at least one existing implementation, which
I expect to be corrected (there's an open bug report).  Other than that,
what inefficiencies are you concerned about?

Do you really believe that the fact that you don't find something
useful or sensible means that it should be forbidden?

>>> You can have general _BitInt(N) syntax and have constraints on the
>>> values of N, not just an upper limit.
>> 
>> No you can't, because the language does not allow the arbitrary
>> restrictions you want.  If an implementer finds _BitInt(1187)
>> too difficult, they can set BITINT_MAXWIDTH to 64.
>>
>> One more time: Both gcc and llvm/clang have already implemented
>> bit-precise types, with very large values of BITINT_MAXWIDTH.
>> What actual problems has this fact caused for you, other than giving
>> you something to complain about?
>
> What problem would there be if BitInt sizes above the machine word
> sizes had to be multiples of the word sizes?

You didn't answer my question.

> It what way would it inconvenience /you/?

Possibly none.  In what way would it inconvenience anyone else?
I don't know.

But I'm certain that imposing the restrictions you want would
inconvenience the maintainers of gcc and clang.

> I just don't unlike unnecessarily flexible, lax or over-ambitious
> features in a language. I think that is as much poor design as
> underspecifying.
>
> So I'm interested in what that one extra bit in a million buys you. Or
> that one bit fewer.

Flexibility and simplicity of the language definition.

You want to impose restrictions on the value of N in _BitInt(N)
or unsigned _BitInt(N).  How much work would be required to define
exactly what those restrictions should be?   Is 64 bits a magic
value that should be included in the restrictions?

Surely whatever restrictions you want to impose should apply to
all C implementations for all target systems.  We already have
BITINT_MAXWIDTH in <limits.h>; how many other constants would
we need?

Are you willing to take the time and effort to write up your
restrictions in standardese and advocate for adding them to C26?

And exactly what would be the benefit of such an effort?  We'd end up
with a more complicated standard that rejects code that's currently
accepted by C23 implementations.

Because you think it's too flexible, and you want to impose your ideas
(which I've seen nobody else agree with) on the rest of us.

And apparently there are issues related to FPGAs, which I haven't
commented on because I lack the expertise.

[...]

>>> Apparently _BitInt(8) is incompatible with int8_t.
>>
>> Yes, it is.  char, signed char, and unsigned char are also
>> incompatible with each other.  How is that a problem?
>
> Signed and unsigned char have ranges of -128..+127 and 0..255
> respectively when they are 8 bits wide; they cannot be compatible.
>
> But BitInt(8) also has a -128..+127 range, yet it is not compatible
> with signed char or int8_t.
>
> Why not? Under what circumstances would somebody choose BitInt(8)
> those alternatives, and why?

_BitInt(8) is guaranteed to have a width of 8 bits, and is guaranteed to
be supported on any conforming C23 implementation.  char may be wider
than 8 bits.  int8_t may not exist.  If you don't care about
implementations with CHAR_BIT > 8, that's fine, but other people do.

> When 'char' is signed, that means that a signed 8-bit type on PCs can
> chosen amongst four incompatible types!

Why do you care whether they're compatible?  I'm not saying you
shouldn't, but you haven't made it clear why it matters to you.

[...]

I have yet to see you describe any problem that isn't neatly solved by
you not using features you don't like.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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                Block syntax (was Re: _BitInt(N)) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-02 14:12 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-02 13:53 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-02 19:55 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-02 19:37 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-02 21:07 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2025-11-27 08:10 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-27 01:30 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-27 02:18 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-27 04:12 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-29 20:24 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-29 22:58 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 16:46 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-30 02:30 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-11-30 05:31 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-30 12:51 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-11-30 18:17 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-30 17:55 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-01 00:08 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 01:14 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-01 04:10 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 14:41 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 16:24 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 17:19 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 19:33 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 20:14 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-02 01:04 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 18:21 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 12:34 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 22:01 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 15:01 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 11:33 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 11:29 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 14:10 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 08:56 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 19:38 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 12:42 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-12-02 22:17 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-03 09:25 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-12-03 06:17 -0500
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 10:07 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-12-15 08:19 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-12-15 08:21 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 18:05 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 20:32 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-30 12:22 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-30 11:41 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-30 12:28 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-30 13:35 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-30 15:14 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-30 12:09 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 18:03 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-25 11:38 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-25 14:12 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-25 14:57 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-25 18:29 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-25 18:33 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-26 11:12 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-26 12:45 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-26 15:31 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-26 11:29 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-11-26 21:19 -0500
                Re: _BitInt(N) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-12-15 08:29 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-25 21:54 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-25 13:42 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-26 12:01 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-26 15:08 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-26 13:24 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-25 23:11 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 17:04 -0600
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-27 01:05 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-27 02:54 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-29 22:17 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-29 22:41 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-30 00:17 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-30 01:22 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-30 11:00 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-30 11:05 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-30 10:51 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-30 13:10 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-30 15:26 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-30 15:09 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-30 17:26 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-30 21:53 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 17:32 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 08:36 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 11:37 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 14:37 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-12-01 14:14 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-01 16:28 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-30 12:39 +0100
            Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-24 14:10 +0200
            Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 04:29 -0800
        Re: _BitInt(N) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 21:39 -0600
          Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-24 11:45 +0000
            Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-24 13:57 +0200
              Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-24 12:56 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-24 15:17 +0200
                Re: _BitInt(N) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-11-24 15:59 +0100
            Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 05:35 -0800
              Re: _BitInt(N) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-11-24 14:21 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 13:12 -0600
                Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 17:00 -0800
                Re: _BitInt(N) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 20:10 -0600
                Re: _BitInt(N) Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2025-11-29 22:30 +0100
                Re: _BitInt(N) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-30 01:51 +0000
                Re: _BitInt(N) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-30 11:22 +0200
          Re: _BitInt(N) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 04:37 -0800
            Re: _BitInt(N) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 11:52 -0600

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