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Re: Call to a function

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Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> writes:
>> There's wording in the standard to support the "object" claim, but
>> I'm not seeing direct support for the "type" claim.  Of course, there
>> might be a chain of deductions that leads there.
>
> Here is my reasoning.
>
> The sizeof operator works on both expressions (including expressions
> that designate objects) and type names.
>
> The result of sizeof has type size_t.
>
> In <stdint.h>, the preprocessor symbol SIZE_MAX gives the maximum
> value (for that implementation) of a value of type size_t.  SIZE_MAX
> has a lower bound of 65535 (a minimum implementation limit).  So any
> type whose size exceeds this value is violating the restriction that
> strictly conforming programs not exceed a minimum implementation
> limit.  (Sorry if that was belaboring the obvious.)

Yup, that has no holes, AFAICS.

>>>> clang retains its stance on the concept:
>>>>
>>>> """
>>>> phil@dovespaz:~$ clang -Wall -o crap crap.c
>>>> crap.c:11:59: error: array is too large (2305843009213693952 elements)
>>>>   printf( "  large has %21zu  bytes\n", sizeof(char[2305843009213693952]));
>>>>                                                     ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> 1 error generated.
>>>> """
>>>>
>>>> Is there an "array", /per se/?  I only see a type.
>>>
>>> An array type, but no array object.  I think most people would say
>>> there isn't an array, but just a type.
>>
>> The standard uses the word "array" as a noun to refer to an array
>> object, so I was using the same usage as the standard there.
>
> Looking through the standard, I see that the word array is used both
> as an adjective and as a noun.

I only looked through about a third of 1570, but I only saw noun uses.
I saw noun+noun compound nouns, with the first noun being "array", but
that doesn't make the word an adjective.

An actual adjectival use could be:
 *The object is array.
(as per "The bus is red.") the likes of which I couldn't find.

Yes, this is more a.u.e. than c.l.c.

Phil
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Re: Call to a function Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-11-10 03:37 -0800
  Re: Call to a function Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-10 22:04 +0000
    Re: Call to a function Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-11-13 08:14 -0800
  Re: Call to a function Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-11-13 21:35 +0200
    Re: Call to a function Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 12:48 -0800
    Re: Call to a function Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-11-13 19:17 -0800
      Re: Call to a function Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-11-16 13:47 +0200
        Re: Call to a function Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-11-16 06:39 -0800
          Re: Call to a function Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-11-21 01:29 +0200
            Re: Call to a function James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-11-21 23:21 -0500
            Re: Call to a function Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-12-24 11:12 -0800

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