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Re: C Code Quality

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: C Code Quality
Date 2017-06-01 14:01 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>
>> David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> writes:
>> <snip>
>>> You can write C code using only the following kinds of statements:
>>>     compound
>>>     labeled
>>>     if   // no else
>>>     goto
>>>     return
>>
>> There's no logical need for return but you do need expression
>> statements.  [...]
>
> Expression statements are nice, but not strictly necessary.
> Writing in C, all computable functions can be written using
> exactly one compound-statement (the outer block of main()),
> plus exactly one return statement.

Presumably you mean to use the return to evaluate an expression that is
the computation?

You can also avoid expression statements by writing what would be a
statement E; like this:

  if (E);

Labels and gotos then complete the picture.

But I'm getting lost in the twisty passages.  I thought the list above
excluded functions.  Excluding functions I don't see how you can make do
with a single expression.

-- 
Ben.

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C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 01:01 +0100
  Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-26 03:18 +0100
    Re: C Code Quality "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 20:03 -0700
    Re: C Code Quality Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 06:32 +0100
    Re: C Code Quality Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-26 07:24 +0100
    Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 11:33 +0100
      Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 15:16 +0200
        Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 14:40 +0100
          Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 16:42 +0200
            Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 17:42 +0200
              Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 17:46 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 19:09 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 19:48 +0200
              Re: C Code Quality "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-26 12:05 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 19:10 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-26 13:16 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-27 02:18 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-29 10:07 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 12:21 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-29 12:00 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:23 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 10:57 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 17:16 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 16:53 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-29 15:23 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 17:25 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-29 14:13 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 14:48 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 17:14 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 16:57 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-29 23:44 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 19:14 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 02:57 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 22:23 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 06:54 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-05-29 15:06 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 00:23 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-05-29 15:33 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 19:15 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 02:55 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-05-29 22:24 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 15:24 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 00:48 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-30 06:04 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-30 14:21 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 17:31 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 17:48 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-03 12:07 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-05 13:10 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-30 23:46 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-03 12:09 +0000
              Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 09:09 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 19:11 +0200
              Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 20:18 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-27 02:59 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 14:52 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-27 13:51 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-27 22:36 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-28 09:38 -0700
              Re: C Code Quality "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-26 20:31 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 19:47 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 13:06 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 21:28 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 23:46 +0100
          Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 17:22 +0200
            Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 17:32 +0200
              Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 19:07 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 19:40 +0200
          Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 08:26 -0700
      Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 14:29 +0100
        Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 16:44 +0200
          Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 08:32 -0700
          Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 18:47 +0100
            Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 20:27 +0200
          Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 11:24 -0700
            Re: C Code Quality Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2017-05-28 07:25 +0000
        Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 17:44 +0200
          Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 17:31 +0100
          Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-26 09:52 -0700
            Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 20:29 +0200
              Re: C Code Quality "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-26 14:41 -0400
      Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 08:22 -0700
        Re: C Code Quality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-26 16:26 +0000
          Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 10:06 -0700
          Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 20:37 +0200
            Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 12:24 -0700
      Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-27 02:03 +0100
      Re: C Code Quality Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-05-28 00:07 +0200
        Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-27 23:51 +0100
        Re: C Code Quality Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 10:52 +0100
          Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 16:03 +0200
  Re: C Code Quality Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2017-05-25 20:37 -0700
  Re: C Code Quality Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2017-05-25 20:42 -0700
  C Code Quality asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2017-05-25 23:58 -0700
  Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 12:53 +0200
    Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 12:32 +0100
      Re: C Code Quality mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-05-26 06:21 -0700
      Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 15:25 +0200
        Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 15:00 +0100
          Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 16:50 +0200
            Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 17:14 +0200
            Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 17:24 +0100
              Re: C Code Quality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-26 16:46 +0000
              Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-26 20:47 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-27 19:31 +0100
            Re: C Code Quality Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-05-27 10:52 +0200
              Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-28 18:57 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-28 20:00 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-29 07:34 +1200
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-29 11:32 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-29 12:37 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-29 14:01 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-29 13:47 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-05-29 20:15 +0800
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-29 14:23 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-29 17:36 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-29 17:01 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 07:05 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-30 17:18 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-30 21:31 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 12:49 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 13:52 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-31 12:55 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-31 13:15 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 05:42 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-31 15:40 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 10:52 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-01 00:00 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 01:11 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-01 02:21 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-06-01 10:37 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-01 11:28 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 10:55 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-06 12:43 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-06 13:03 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-06 14:44 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-06-06 14:58 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-06 17:23 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-06 17:23 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2017-06-06 17:14 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2017-06-06 16:54 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-06-06 18:49 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2017-06-06 18:28 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2017-06-16 15:28 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 05:21 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-31 15:22 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 06:59 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-31 17:18 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 10:24 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 12:22 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-31 22:32 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-31 23:08 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-06-01 00:22 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 00:54 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-01 04:00 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-01 09:12 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-01 10:09 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-01 10:11 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 21:31 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 21:27 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 11:04 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-06-01 10:57 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-01 12:05 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-06-01 15:39 -0400
                Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-01 13:39 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-01 14:19 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-06-01 16:33 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-06-01 15:22 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-06-01 17:44 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-02 02:56 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 21:24 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-01 04:13 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 14:01 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-01 06:53 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 15:13 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-01 08:40 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-06-01 17:18 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-01 07:35 +1200
                Re: C Code Quality David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-06-01 10:41 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 17:14 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 09:02 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 19:45 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-03 12:17 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-30 16:32 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 12:38 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-30 13:00 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-06-02 10:58 -0700
                Re: C Code Quality guido <guido@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-30 19:56 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-30 23:06 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality guido <guido@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-30 23:02 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-31 04:14 +0100
                Re: C Code Quality guido <guido@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-31 08:38 +0000
                Re: C Code Quality Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-30 15:22 +1200
            Re: C Code Quality raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-29 10:12 +0000
          Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-26 18:03 +0200
            Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 17:45 +0100
            Re: C Code Quality Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-26 20:05 +0100
              Re: C Code Quality supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-26 12:42 -0700
            Re: C Code Quality bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-26 20:19 +0100
              Re: C Code Quality "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2017-05-27 03:03 +0200
                Re: C Code Quality Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-26 20:37 -0700
          Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-28 22:17 -0700
  Re: C Code Quality Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-28 22:15 -0700

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