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Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds

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gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) writes:

> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
>> gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) writes:
>>> Interesting! I've been pondering getting into RC2014 lately, as part
>>> of my exploration of permacomputing.
>>>
>>> How do you plan to interface the LCD to the system? From what I've
>>> gathered, the RC2014 normally uses a serial terminal as its interface,
>>> so I'm guessing you'll need to somehow interface keyboard and LCD to
>>> the serial port? I'm thinking 'simple microcontroller that drives the
>>> LCD and reads keystrokes and acts as a serial terminal to the RC2014'.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts?
>> 
>> I haven't gotten that far yet. The project is on the back burner while I
>> finish a previous project that's mid-way. What I learn from this project
>> will help with my rc2014 build.
>> 
>> Of course, I need to get one first and dick around with it.
>> 
>> There are so many add-on cards to the rig I still need to investigate.
>
> Indeed. I just pulled the trigger and ordered a 'pro' kit, which comes with
> the backplane, cpu module, rom module (which includes the ROM code needed
> for CP/M), RAM module, RTC module and a CF card module. I got a few extra
> modules as well, such as a VGA interface module and wifi module, but I
> intend to hook up an LCD and keyboard to it, but haven't really thought
> that out yet. I'd like to keep it as simple as possible.

Wow great job. So how many daughterboards can fit on the backplane and
which ones do you intend on standardizing?

> And yeah, I've got plenty of projects to work on as well, we'll see when
> and how I get to it :)
>
>> Is the rc2014 open source? I mean, can I get the plans and get a pcb
>> manufactured or do I have to order it from the dude? It's a bit pricey.
>
> From what I can see, the schematics for all the modules are available as
> PDF files, but I haven't seen any CAD files. It's all very simple and
> straight-forward though, so not too much effort to create your own
> schematics in your CAD program of choice and create your own gerbers.

That's what I observed. I will order my own set at some point. My
project is extensive and it's a heavy sports time at the moment.

> The software is all open source though (although I guess CP/M itself
> is not).
>
>> What does permacomputing mean?
>
> Well, depends on who you ask I guess. There's a lot that goes into it,
> but let me summarise to say that it's about making computing more
> sustainable. It's a movement that's fed up with the tech industry's
> wasteful strategy of planned obsolence, but also a movement that
> considers that the global supply chain on which modern computing
> relies might one day go away. 
>
> For me, the RC2014 and similar projects fit in because they use
> simple components and create systems that can be understood and
> maintained by an individual rather than requiring teams and teams
> of people across many huge companies to produce and maintain.

I did look up permacomputing in the meantime. For me, I want a device
that will work the same the day I start using it than years later. And
with my day-to-day OS (linux) changing ever-so-rapidly, I want to find
methods of living with older os's that are the opposite. CP/M seems to
fit that bill, especially with all the modern software being written for
the platform, that I've read about.

I look forward to exploring the cp/m world. There's a decent online
emulator that I play with occasionally. And there's a RC2014 BBS that
I'll poke around in too. I asked the sysop some questions but he replied
with 'read the fucking manual.' I guess some people don't like to have
conversation anymore.

--
Daniel
sysop  | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw

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      Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-08 06:46 +0000
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                Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds Paul Bartlett <bartlett@panix.com> - 2026-05-15 02:59 -0400
                Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-15 18:29 +0000
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                Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds John <john@somewhere> - 2026-05-15 04:44 -0500
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                Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-15 18:30 +0000
                Re: cp/m on modern homebrew z80 builds John <john@somewhere> - 2026-05-15 14:41 -0500
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