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Re: Any Clojure users here?

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"joswig@lisp.de" <joswig@lisp.de> writes:

> On 28 Jan., 16:55, Alessio Stalla <alessiosta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, January 28, 2011 3:56:37 PM UTC+1, Raffael Cavallaro wrote:
>> > On 2011-01-27 21:36:06 -0500, Deeyana said:
>>
>> > > It's a Lisp. Prefix notation, homoiconicity, macros, lists, the works.
>>
>> > One of the things that makes a lisp is minimal syntax (it's the minimal
>> > syntax that enables the homoiconicity). Clojure has significantly more
>> > syntax (three different types of semantically different parens last
>> > time I checked) than common lisp or scheme which makes clojure much
>> > less lispy imho.
>>
>> Lisp is not about minimal syntax per se, it's about representing programs as trees and to have program text closely mirror the corresponding tree in the general case.
>> Clojure has a syntax for lists - () - vectors - [] - and maps - {}, as well as numbers and strings and other stuff, and uses all these kinds of objects to represent expressions. Not that different from CL (which lacks syntax for vectors and maps).
>
> Common Lisp has 'syntax' for vectors:
>
> #(1 2 3 I am a vector)

And happily, it would occur to no lisp programmer to use vectors eg. in
a macro such as:

    (let. #((v 1)
            (u 2))
        (+ v u))

There's clearly no point in doing such a thing.


-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.

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Re: Any Clojure users here? "joswig@lisp.de" <joswig@lisp.de> - 2011-01-28 14:07 -0800
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-01-31 19:18 +0000
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Tim Bradshaw <tfb@tfeb.org> - 2011-02-10 10:01 +0000
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-02-10 10:02 +0000
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-02-10 05:37 +0000
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Marco Antoniotti <marcoxa@gmail.com> - 2011-01-30 02:15 -0800
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Alessio Stalla <alessiostalla@gmail.com> - 2011-02-01 15:29 -0800
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Alessio Stalla <alessiostalla@gmail.com> - 2011-01-30 13:17 -0800
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Tim X <timx@nospam.dev.null> - 2011-02-01 18:07 +1100
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Pascal Costanza <pc@p-cos.net> - 2011-01-30 23:17 +0100
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Alessio Stalla <alessiostalla@gmail.com> - 2011-01-31 11:22 -0800
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Alessio Stalla <alessiostalla@gmail.com> - 2011-01-31 14:42 -0800
      Re: Any Clojure users here? TheFlyingDutchman <zzbbaadd@aol.com> - 2011-01-31 15:55 -0800
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Tim X <timx@nospam.dev.null> - 2011-02-01 08:24 +1100
  Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-01-31 19:47 +0000
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Rainer Joswig <joswig@lisp.de> - 2011-01-31 22:18 +0100
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-02-10 05:36 +0000
      Re: Any Clojure users here? "joswig@lisp.de" <joswig@lisp.de> - 2011-01-31 15:06 -0800
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Tim Bradshaw <tfb@tfeb.org> - 2011-01-31 22:56 +0000
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Rainer Joswig <joswig@lisp.de> - 2011-01-31 21:06 +0100
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-01-31 20:47 +0000
  Re: Any Clojure users here? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2011-01-28 23:03 +0100
    Re: Any Clojure users here? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2011-01-29 15:53 +0100
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-01-30 01:55 +0000
        Re: Any Clojure users here? Pascal Costanza <pc@p-cos.net> - 2011-01-30 10:42 +0100
      Re: Any Clojure users here? "MarkHaniford@gmail.com" <markhaniford@gmail.com> - 2011-01-29 17:32 -0800
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Marco Antoniotti <marcoxa@gmail.com> - 2011-01-29 09:44 -0800
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Tim X <timx@nospam.dev.null> - 2011-01-30 10:24 +1100
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-02-10 04:59 +0000
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Antony <remove+spam_lisp.linux@gmail.com> - 2011-02-01 06:08 -0800
      Re: Any Clojure users here? Pascal Costanza <pc@p-cos.net> - 2011-01-30 23:16 +0100
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Pascal Costanza <pc@p-cos.net> - 2011-01-29 01:28 +0100
    Re: Any Clojure users here? "joswig@lisp.de" <joswig@lisp.de> - 2011-01-28 14:56 -0800
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Bill <schottstaedt@gmail.com> - 2011-01-29 06:23 -0800
    Re: Any Clojure users here? Deeyana <d.awlberg@hotmail.invalid> - 2011-01-28 23:24 +0000

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