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Re: Adjacent string literals

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Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>
>> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> If the phrase "White-space characters separating tokens are no longer
>>> significant." were moved from the beginning of the description of phase
>>> 7 to the beginning of the description phase 6, it would make the
>>> insignificance of white space separating string literals perfectly
>>> clear, and as far as I can see, would have no other effect
>>
>> The word "adjacent" doesn't alway mean touching.  There is another
>> word for that, the word "adjoining".  Booking a hotel reservation
>> for adjacent rooms is not the same as a reservation for adjoining
>> rooms.
>
> That's not entirely clear.  dictionary.com (not a definitive reference
> but a convenient one) shows "adjoining" as one of the definitions of
> "adjacent".

That's consistent with what I said:  "adjoining" being only one
of the definitions is consistent with saying "adjacent" doesn't
_always_ mean touching.  Words in English can be ambiguous in
their meanings.

> If I understand you correctly, if rooms 110 and 112 share a common wall,
> perhaps with a door going between them, they're both adjacent and
> adjoining,

In the case of hotels I think "adjoining" always means connected,
either with or perhaps without a door, but yes.

> but if instead they're on opposide sides of the elevator
> they're adjacent but not adjoining.  Is that what you meant?  I'm not
> sure I'd call them "adjacent" in that case.

A better example is a small utility closet rather than an
elevator.  "Adjacent" usually implies "closeness" even if
it doesn't always mean touching, and two rooms with a bank
of four elevators between them would for most people not
be considered adjacent, I think.  In the case of hotel
rooms at least it's a matter of degree.

Another example is two rooms having the same latitude and
longitude, but on different (consecutive) floors.  I think most
people wouldn't call those rooms "adjacent".  However, if there
is a connecting stairway between them, a hotel might very well
offer them as "adjoining rooms".

> A footnote on "Adjacent string literals are concatenated" saying that
> two string literals are adjacent if they're adjoining or separated only
> by white-space characters would clear this up.  Moving "White-space
> characters separating tokens are no longer significant." from the
> beginning of phase 7 to the beginning of phase 6 would also be a good
> solution.
>
> But given the clear examples, I wouldn't object to leaving it as it is.

Given that the wording lasted more than 30 years without anyone
even noticing a problem, I think the case for leaving it alone
is decidedly stronger than the case for making a change.

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Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-01-25 10:15 -0500
  Re: Adjacent string literals Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-01-26 12:22 +0000
    Re: Adjacent string literals Jakob Bohm <jb-usenet@wisemo.com.invalid> - 2021-01-26 13:48 +0100
      Re: Adjacent string literals Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:05 -0800
      Re: Adjacent string literals Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-01-26 21:40 +0000
        Re: Adjacent string literals Jakob Bohm <jb-usenet@wisemo.com.invalid> - 2021-01-28 09:53 +0100
          Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-01-28 05:45 -0500
    Re: Adjacent string literals Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2021-01-26 07:52 -0500
    Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-01-26 09:29 -0500
      Re: Adjacent string literals Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-01-26 21:46 +0000
        Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-01-26 18:28 -0500
          Re: Adjacent string literals Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-01-27 01:16 +0000
            Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
              Re: Adjacent string literals Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-01-27 15:46 +0000
                Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-01-27 11:20 -0500
                Re: Adjacent string literals Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2021-01-28 03:05 +0000
  Re: Adjacent string literals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-07-10 08:49 -0700
    Re: Adjacent string literals Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-07-10 14:58 -0700
      Re: Adjacent string literals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-07-22 10:29 -0700
    Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-07-11 11:41 -0700
      Re: Adjacent string literals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-07-22 15:26 -0700
        Re: Adjacent string literals James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2021-07-22 17:29 -0700
          Re: Adjacent string literals Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2022-01-17 05:29 -0800

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