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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, Andy Burns wrote:

> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> Retrograde   wrote:
>>>> Dell has announced it’s rebranding literally its entire product line, so
>>> mainstays like XPS, Latitude, and Inspiron are going away. They’re 
>>> replacing
>>> all of these old brands with Dell, Dell Pro, and Dell Pro Max, and within 
>>> each
>>> of these, there will be three tiers: Base, Plus, and Premium. 
>> 
>> This is confusing.
>> 
>> Which is the one made as cheaply as possible so the fans and electrolytic
>> caps fail five years down the road?  That used to be the Optiplex, what is
>> it now?
>
> At a guess "Dell" & "Base"
>
>> Which is the rackmount server 
>
> None of XPS, Latitude, and Inspiron are servers
>
> Their website for servers is very confusing now, too split up by industry, 
> what does a server care about that?
>
> Easy to find 1U/1xsocket/4xdrive servers for about £1k
> Easy to find £30kto £50k, 1U servers too
>
> Not so easy to find boxes with a bit more expansion (2U, 2xsocket, 8-16 
> drives) they do exist and reasonable about £3-4k starting price, but they're 
> almost hidden.
>
> I'm sure they'd love to spend they time sending out horrifically priced 
> quotes, but for customers who haven't gone to the cloud, but don't wnt a 
> poverty spec server, they don't appear to be trying very hard?
>
>> It took years to figure out the old names.  Now I have to figure them all
>> out all over again?
> I'm sure we'll cope

It is very sad. Cheap 1U servers seem to be going out of fashion. I spoke 
with a business partner that deals exclusively in hardware (well, with 
some software defined storage on top, and the occasional HPC setup) and he 
says that all HW vendors only want to sell huge GPU boxes for AI, and they 
no longer want to sell smaller and cheaper boxes. This is very sad.

I have 5 rented servers (not VM:s) in hetzner for various customers, and I 
would like to consolidate them onto 2 geographically distant servers in 
some data center.

I have a feeling that if I could only find some budget servers, possibly 
even used, I might actually be able to build a business case for that. But 
we'll see. Time will tell.

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