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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Linux is power squared |
| Date | 2011-04-23 09:19 +0000 |
| Organization | OK by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand |
| Message-ID | <79awer.i9oe98at@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <n89ahwer.h94thr@rooftop.invalid> <iotthe$pca$1@dont-email.me> <nv89asef.9wfa@rooftop.invalid> <iotvfv$v8o$1@dont-email.me> <iotvlr$vg2$1@dont-email.me> |
Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> wrote:
> Tom Shelton explained on 4/23/2011 :
>> owl formulated the question :
>>> Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> wrote:
>>>> owl submitted this idea :
>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does *not* have to be built with scripting in mind. Scripting is just
>>>>>> but one way to invoke this and it can be called directly from C++ or
>>>>>> any programming language. If someone wants to write a "Unix like" 3-line
>>>>>> app (or script) named espeak then it can also be done that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The difference is that with the Unix model the only accessible way is to
>>>>>> call espeak. Because you sure aren't going to be doing text-to-speech
>>>>>> directly from Python, Perl, bash or most likely C++.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Every one of those languages has a system() function from which you can
>>>>> call espeak.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Windows (as was just shown) it's 4 lines of code to write "espeak" as
>>>>>> either a script or an executable and I can do exactly what Unix can do.
>>>>>> But I can also call this functionality directly from
>>>>>> C/C++/Python/Perl/Ruby or anywhere I want. That's an option you don't
>>>>>> have with the Unix model because it's basically call "espeak" or
>>>>>> nothing at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's wrong with espeak for this? Seriously, text to speech is of
>>>>> limited
>>>>> use anyway, so I struggle to imagine a case that would be any better
>>>>> served
>>>>> by direct calls to a specialized API.
>>>>
>>>> LOL... You guys are serious idiots. If you want a command tool, say.exe
>>>> on windows will do it. It's free. If you don't want to download it and
>>>> you know how, you write your own... It takes about 5 minutes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There are plenty of tools that you can write yourself if you feel inclined
>>> to reinvent the wheel.
>>>
>>
>> that's the point - this isn't reinventing the wheel... It's simply callign a
>> system service using the syntax of the language your app is in.
>>
It's reinventing the wheel if the tool already exists.
system() is a valid function in all of those languages. perl, ruby,
python, c, c++. Any app written in those languages can call upon
espeak through system().
>>> I also notice that you failed to give a use case that is better served
>>> by something beyond a basic system("espeak \"blah\"") called from any
>>> of those languages.
>>
>
> I'll further add, what's so bad about the way it's done on windows...
>
Nothing. I'm just countering the assertion that these other languages
cannot make use of espeak simply because it is not an API function call.
> Create the object
> call it's speak method.
>
That sounds like just an excuse to use powershell.
> It' accomplishes the same thign, it's just done a different way.
>
>> Stop being ridiculous... In almost every languge, in windows it's a simple
>> create object, call speak. It's a system service provided to any app that
>> wants to speak text. You don't need a specialized tool to do it. For
>> instance, it has taken me all of about 10 minutes to write a powershell
>> cmdlet that will be available in any powershell session.
>>
espeak is available to any bash session, and since espeak is cross-platform
it can be available to any cmd.exe session.
>> Now, I want to speak a file:
>
> lol... accidently posted... Anyway, I was saying if I want to speak a
> file from now on its:
>
> $> cat "path-to-file" | speak-text
>
espeak -f afile
(among other things)
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Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-22 16:57 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-22 19:17 -0400
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Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:22 -0500
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Re: Linux is power squared RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 16:33 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 01:28 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-22 20:46 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:24 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 09:55 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-23 09:07 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:15 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 16:24 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 16:16 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 11:32 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:42 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-22 19:39 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-22 22:10 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 00:34 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 06:51 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:01 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 07:14 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:35 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:38 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 09:19 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:24 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 10:47 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 19:46 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 18:20 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 22:20 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 08:28 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 14:18 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:13 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:41 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-24 14:16 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 16:26 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:49 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2011-04-25 21:43 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2011-04-25 20:08 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-04-26 04:28 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 06:02 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-26 22:31 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:46 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-23 10:50 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 17:19 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:18 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-23 12:49 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 12:54 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 20:00 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:30 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:44 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:53 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2011-04-23 18:32 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-24 00:33 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:29 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 19:01 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 19:35 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 19:57 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 20:08 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-24 20:15 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 20:23 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:23 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:20 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 10:10 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 16:57 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:50 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-26 12:34 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:48 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel98@steel98.com> - 2011-04-26 12:50 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 18:29 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 21:08 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 15:14 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-23 21:26 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <Me@Not-there.com> - 2011-04-23 17:25 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-24 09:42 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:17 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 11:34 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:22 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 18:30 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:23 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-04-22 23:24 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 07:22 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 14:29 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2011-04-22 23:34 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-22 19:46 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> - 2011-04-23 03:31 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 23:42 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 00:33 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2011-04-23 08:33 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Chris <chrisdhaag@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-23 08:21 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-23 09:41 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 07:25 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:31 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:29 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:28 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 22:15 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 22:50 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 23:16 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:44 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 22:30 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-04-24 23:11 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared Big Steel <Steel9901x22@9901x22Steel.com> - 2011-04-24 18:50 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 11:57 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:16 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 11:56 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-25 10:19 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-24 14:15 -0700
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-24 20:16 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-24 18:40 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:52 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-04-27 02:51 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 22:18 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-28 19:51 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-03 20:48 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 11:15 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 20:22 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-04 17:30 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-04 23:19 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-05 13:05 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-05 21:50 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-06 10:40 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 23:32 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared stukie <stukieh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-06 23:31 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2011-05-07 00:23 +0000
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-05-09 13:18 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-25 14:14 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-26 10:52 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 10:42 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-24 04:58 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-24 11:14 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:44 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:51 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "caged steel" <CS@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-25 09:27 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-04-23 09:15 -0700
Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 14:19 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:37 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:27 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 01:01 +0100
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Re: 7 is power less flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:28 -0400
Re: 7 is power less 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2011-04-23 14:54 +0100
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-22 18:55 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-22 19:36 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 00:27 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-04-23 10:20 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-23 10:13 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchmail.com> - 2011-04-23 12:54 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 12:57 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 11:05 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 20:05 +0200
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 14:12 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:34 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2011-04-23 10:55 -0600
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-23 13:03 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2011-04-23 17:49 -0400
Re: Linux is power squared JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2011-04-24 13:39 -0500
Re: Linux is power squared flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-04-22 21:25 -0400
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