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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: macOS Technical Note: Privileged Helpers, dragging to Trash, and EtreCheck |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <n7obu5F9snuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| Date | 2026-05-27 20:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6a1754a7$0$25$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On May 27, 2026 at 7:03:48 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n7obu5F9snuU1@mid.individual.net>:
> Hello again, folks! 😄
>
> There has been some discussion across recent threads about standard
> macOS uninstallation behaviour — specifically whether dragging an
> application bundle ('App') to the Bin is sufficient for all software.
>
> For most applications, it is. Self-contained, sandboxed apps leave
> nothing behind that matters, and dragging to the Bin is perfectly
> adequate. However, a distinct technical exception applies to utilities
> that require elevated privileges to scan system hardware, read
> restricted logs, or monitor storage health.
>
> EtreCheck is a prime example of this class of software.
>
> To perform its deep system analysis, EtreCheck installs a *Privileged
> Helper Tool* — an elevated background daemon that requires admin
> authorisation on first run. This is entirely legitimate behaviour, but
> it has a practical consequence for uninstallation.
>
> *The problem with "drag to Bin" for this category of software*:-
>
> 1. *The App Bundle* — Dragging the `.app` to the Bin removes the user-
> facing interface, as expected.
>
> 2. *The Lingering Daemon* — macOS does not automatically unregister or
> remove privileged helpers when their parent app is trashed.
>
> 3. *The Binary* — The helper executable persists in the root-level
> directory `/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/`.
>
> 4. *The Property Lists* — Associated configuration files remain in the
> system launch directories.
>
> For ordinary apps that only write to `~/Library/Application Support/` or
> `~/Library/Caches/`, this isn't a concern — those files are dormant and
> easily ignored or removed. But when a utility has installed a persistent
> background daemon that survives deletion of the main app bundle, a
> dedicated uninstaller (or at minimum an inline **Uninstall** menu
> option) is not just courteous — it's the correct design choice. Without
> one, users are left manually navigating root-level directories to remove
> components most wouldn't know to look for.
>
> Hopefully this clarifies things for anyone tracking file-system
> behaviour or managing utility software on their Macs.
OK, did more work FOR you. To help you.
There is no evidence EtreCheck does as you say and puts something in
/Library/LaunchDaemons/
/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/
Or any other place where an uninstaller might be more useful. I even did a
check in /Library/ for "EtreCheck" and found one item, and it was in:
/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/
No issue with that.
But guess what, even if it did have stuff there, that would not mean an
uninstaller would be absolutely needed. Here:
https://www.telestream.net/telestream-support/screen-flow/help/Install.11.6.html
No uninstaller -- you have to manually go to:
/System/Library/Extensions/TelestreamAudio.kext
And delete it.
How about Windscribe?
https://windscribe.com/knowledge-base/articles/how-do-i-reinstall-the-windscribe-mac-app
This page talks about uninstalling it (even if the focus is on installing).
Drag to trash and delete. But guess what... unlike EtreCheck it DOES leave
things in the /Library folder.
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.windscribe.helper.macos.plist
Can you find anyone with a shred of concern about this? I would say ideally
they should have a simple way to do this -- apps like Zoom and TeamViewer do
have ways in the app itself.
But you are not only wrong -- there is no such cruft left behind in /Library/
-- but even if there was you would STILL be making a mountain out of a
molehill... whining about things you do not understand in the slightest.
David, I keep asking: stop these insane paranoid attacks against EtreCheck and
its developer. You are making a complete and utter fool of yourself and doing
so in thread after thread and across multiple newsgroups.
--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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