Re: Who owns the variable in my header file ?

Date	2012-10-09 11:48 +0100
From	lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject	Re: Who owns the variable in my header file ?
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On 09/10/12 10:30, BartC wrote:
> "lipska the kat" <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ye2dnWJ-1aEcR-7NnZ2dnUVZ8jGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> On 09/10/12 05:47, Joe Pfeiffer wrote

>> Coming from there to here has been a bit of a shock to the system

[snip]

> You're not comparing like with like.

Of course not, that's the point it's not a criticism it's an observation.

> What language is a typical JVM implementation written in?

C I should imagine.

> It's probably not Java! Instead it leaves all
> the 'dirty work' to a different language and keeps itself clean.

Ah yes, it does, and that's the beauty of it, I can get on with 
meaningful work and not worry about freeing some chunk of memory when 
I'm done with it ... far fewer opportunities to put on the hair shirt 
and beat myself with sticks. Horses for courses as they say.

> What are Java's primitive data types? I didn't know until five minutes
> ago but they seem to be 8, 16, 32, and 64-bit types; very neat and tidy,
> not even any unsigned integer types to make life difficult!

I think you are implying that making life difficult is the mark of a 
'real' programming language. I stopped using Java 'primitives' with the 
advent of autoboxing, I couldn't care less how Java is implemented 
really, as long as I can do my thing and earn a living then I'm happy 
(but see below).

> C has to do a lot more of the dirty work and is expected to run on more
> 'interesting' architectures. That doesn't excuse everything, but it
> might give an idea why programming can be a bit more challenging.

Ant that's why I'm here, because I like a challenge. Please don't take 
the comparison between Java and C personally, I'm just explaining where 
I'm coming from. A while ago I had to write to the hardware/software 
interface of some external device. The language specified was Java. 
Don't ask me why, I just do what I'm asked and as long as I get my 
cheque at the end of the month I'm good. It was while I was doing this 
that I decided that if I wanted to do more of this type of work it would 
probably be a good idea to learn C ... and that's why I'm here. I got a 
real kick out of controlling that thing from my laptop so I decided on a 
change of direction away from serverside programming towards more tricky 
device control.

No idea if I'll get there but I will probably die trying :-)

lipska

-- 
Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer
and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun

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