Re: What is your experience with USB on RISC OS?

From	Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Subject	Re: What is your experience with USB on RISC OS?
Newsgroups	comp.sys.acorn.hardware
Date	2024-10-08 10:27 +0100
Message-ID	<5bac8b7512News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> (permalink)
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In article <5bac85d754bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de>,
   Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> wrote:
> In article <463d2da95b.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
>    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

> > In reality, I bet you haven't; if you set about updating in a
> > methodical way, you'd have it done in a couple of hours or so. 
> > And you would keep a backup so that, in the unlikely event that
> > it does all go wrong, you can revert to exactly where you are now.

> Going back to an old !Boot application (backup) after using a new
> one means loosing all datas which was written to the new !Boot
> application like !NewsBase (but I'm using !Pluto today). This can
> leed to a mess.

That is why I suggested updating to 5.28 first - you can then update
your old !Boot without losing anything. I offered to send you the
required zips, as they are no longer generally available.

> Okay, I gave RISC OS 5.30 a try. After installing it I'm able to
> choose between RISC OS 5.24 and RISC OS 5.30 (but still missing
> RISC OS 5.28 yet which I installed in former times for !Iris but I
> don't use anymore).

I assume this was with the brand new 5.30 !Boot?

In the 5.30 !Boot, if you copy the 5.28 ROM in to
!Boot.Resources.Softload with a name of RO528 it will be added to the
boot menu as shown ...
 >
http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2024-10-08/PA082331.JPG
which is the boot menu.

> http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2024-10-08/PA082332.JPG
which shows the 5.30 ROM being softloaded after 10 seconds.
A press on the Return or Space bar would have immediately loaded the
default ROM - ie the last one loaded.

> After that a window is appearing then:
> http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2024-10-08/PA082333.JPG
showing the Network Config window.

Have you been running the ROD network stack?
If so, you should uninstall the ROD network stack before any major
RISC OS updates. It can be re-installed later if you wish.

See https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/11/topics/19317

> I don't know for what use.
> After clicking on button 'Save' I get
> http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2024-10-08/PA082334.JPG
showing the Reset window

> And after clicking on 'Reset now' I get
> http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2024-10-08/PA082335.JPG
> the message 'Task Manager not active.'

> The next sequence is
> http://home.chiemgau-net.de/ausserstorfer/Temp/2024-10-08/PA082336.JPG
showing startup not completed due to horrible network error.

> I want to switch on the machine and it should go directly (without
> any help from the user) to the desktop. 

Softloading ROMs is an easy way to check out new ROMs with an easy way
to return to a previous ROM.  It needs no help from the user after the
first selection, but it does add 10 seconds to the boot time. This can
be avoided by just pressing the space bar.

When you are happy with an update, the same ROM can be flashed into
the Titanium hardware, and then it will start directly with that ROM.

> I don't understand for what good is the update.

The update from 5.24 to 5.30 includes hundreds of fixes and
improvements. 

I am not saying that updating to 5.30 will fix your USB problems, but
at least it would mean that there are many others running the same
version, and may be able to help - and that help may lead to a fix.

It is very unlikely that anyone is able to help fixing your USB
problem on 5.24.

Martin

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Martin Avison 
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What is your experience with USB on RISC OS? Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> - 2024-09-22 16:09 +0200
  Re: What is your experience with USB on RISC OS? Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2024-09-22 15:37 +0100
    Re: What is your experience with USB on RISC OS? Alexander Ausserstorfer <bavariasound@chiemgau-net.de> - 2024-09-29 15:17 +0200
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