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Re: RiscPC problem

From Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject Re: RiscPC problem
Date 2012-01-04 18:14 +0000
Organization Russell Hafter Holidays
Message-ID <524c646d25see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <5247c40e97dave@triffid.co.uk> <d987c54752.chris.shepheard@shepheard.plus.com> <524bf039a7cvjazz@waitrose.com> <aa12f34b52.chris.shepheard@shepheard.plus.com> <6138324c52.Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk>

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In article <6138324c52.Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk>, Philip
Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message
> <aa12f34b52.chris.shepheard@shepheard.plus.com> Chris
> Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> wrote:

> > In message <524bf039a7cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> >           <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> >>> The British National Formulary states: Spirit, methyl
> >>> salicylate 0.5ml, diethyl phtalate 2%, castor oil
> >>> 2.5%, in industrial methylated spirit.

> >> That's OK re METHYLATED spirit. I had a look at B N
> >> Formulary site for SURGICAL spirit but you have to
> >> register..... Anybody got a paper copy lying around
> >> they can check?

> > That is from a 2006 copy of the BNF and is the formula
> > for Surgical Spirit.

> A chemical comment: I think you will find that methyl
> salicylate is the main component of oil of wintergreen.
> So everyone is right.

Yes, 'Oil of Wintergreen' *is* methyl salicylate. Used to be
a common way of applying an analgesic to the skin, as it
slowly hydrolyses to methanol and salicylic acid, which is
the analgesic.

I cannot imagine that the taste of methyl salicylate in that
quantity would put people off, or even if they could taste
it through the isopropanol (or better, propan-2-ol).

Methylated spirit is formulated quite differently, being
made of ethanol (drinking, and therefore taxed, alcohol). It
contains small quantities of pyridine, which smells vile,
and probably tastes worse, and is highly toxic. But if you
have resorted to drinking meths, all that is probably beyond
you.

Just back from Belgium and Luxembourg - in both countries
pure ethanol (ie 96% ethaol, 5% water, which is as pure as
you can get by distillation) was freely available on
supermarket shelves, next door to the malt whisky.

> Neither castor oil nor diethyl phthalate (non-volatile
> insulators) seem terribly good things to get on to
> electrical contacts, and phthalate esters are softeners
> of plastics even if they don't actually dissolve them. I
> should stick to isopropyl alcohol, especially as it seems
> quite easy to get if you ask in the right places. (The
> explosives connection is almost certainly a garble -
> that's acetone.)

But you make acetone by oxidising propan-2-ol.

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Russell
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RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-22 15:46 +0000
  Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-22 16:28 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 00:30 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 10:02 +0000
        Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-25 19:51 +0000
          Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 02:02 +0100
            Re: RiscPC problem Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2011-12-26 09:31 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 18:38 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 18:54 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 21:16 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2012-01-03 21:36 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 23:50 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 09:06 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-01-04 09:41 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 09:52 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-04 18:14 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 14:21 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 17:07 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 18:41 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 21:07 +0000
          Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-26 23:56 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 12:18 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-01 16:11 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-27 12:26 +0000
          Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-26 23:48 +0000
            Re: RiscPC problem Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> - 2011-12-28 21:33 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 10:55 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem charles <charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 12:20 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2011-12-30 13:25 +0000
              Re: RiscPC problem Richard Torrens <Richard@Torrens.org.uk> - 2011-12-31 14:26 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-01 16:09 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-01-03 21:16 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-04 18:22 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-01-04 20:34 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-01-04 20:38 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-04 22:52 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Philip Draper <Philip@borehamh.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-05 09:56 +0000
                Re: RiscPC problem Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-01-05 11:21 +0000
  Re: RiscPC problem druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-12-22 17:40 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-12-22 17:41 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 00:28 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 07:49 +0100
    Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 07:44 +0100
      Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 11:36 +0000
      Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-23 12:01 +0000
  Re: RiscPC problem Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2011-12-22 20:07 +0000
    Re: RiscPC problem Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-23 08:08 +0100

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