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Re: Problem with array objects

From Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Problem with array objects
Date 2011-05-25 09:57 -0400
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Paul wrote:

>
> int arr[6];
> std::cout<< arr;
>
> The above outputs a memory address, whether you think this is an 
> offset embedded in machine code or it is stored in the XXXX segment is 
> quite irrellevant.
> I tihnk you are speaking nonsense. It wouldn't be the first time.
>

Not to add too much or be drawn too far into this...

But - it prints an address because of the rule that a rvalue reference
to an array becomes the address of the first element of the array; which
has been mentioned before...

So, when the compiler evaluates the expression 'arr', as an operand
of the '<<' operator; it discovers an array name.   The compiler applies
that rule, and produces an expression that is a pointer to the first
element of the array. 

So.. the type of right-hand-side of '<<' (after this implicit 
conversion) is
'int *', the value of the right-hand-side is the address of the first 
element
of 'arr'.

Thus... the expression 'arr' is actually completely the same (in this 
example)
as the expression '&arr[0]'.

That is , this statement:

    std::cout<<arr;

is exactly the same as this statement:

    std::cout<<(&arr[0]);

This is a subtle and important rule.

It even explains how array indexing is accomplished:

In this snippet:

     int i;  int array[10];

     i = array[5];

when the compiler examines the expression 'array[5]'; it has
to implement the indexing operation in some fashion.  Many compilers
simply follow the rule, so that 'array[5]' (internally in the compiler)
is actually expressed as:

     (&array[0]) + 5;

If you think about it; this is also why indexing works "backwards",
that is:

      [5]array

is a valid C expression that accesses the 5th element of the array.
Because 'array' is simply short-hand for (&array[0]).   So,
the expression:

     [5]array;

becomes:

     5 + (&array[0]);


Note that the type of &array[0] is (in this example) an `int *'; so
that the expressions are simply pointer addition.

This is where people tend to confuse arrays and pointers; because
array indexing devolves into pointer addition.


But - that is preciesly why, in your std:: example, the result is
a memory address.   The expression 'arr' is just "short hand" for (&arr[0]).

I think, if you apply this rule (which is in both the C and C++ standards)
things might become clearer.

Now - to the point of "there is some 'object' that holds this address."

Well, clearly the object has an address - however, there need not be
a separate object to "hold" that.  The compiler can generate code that
calculates that address at runtime.

A simple example might help:

    int i;  int *ip;

    ip = &i+1;

In this example, we have taken the address of 'i'.  Does the compiler
need a separate 'object' to hold that address... well, not actually... but,
certainly it will calculate the address and use it in some fashion.

In fact, the compiler will compute the address of 'i', add the sizeof(int)
to that address and store the result in 'ip'.  In the C/C++ sense, there
was never a 'container/object' that held the address of `i'; it was simply
calculated at runtime.   There wasn't, necessarily, a separate 'container'
to hold the address of 'i'.

Having said that, just _how_ the compiler calculates &i might involve
runtime entities (not C++ 'objects')... for example, it may have to load
the address 'i' into a hardware register and add the sizeof(int) to it.

In that sense; the hardware register is the container that the generated
code employs to implement the expression... but, there's not a C++ "object"
for it... it's just how the expression is compiled.

I may be stepping into a quagmire here.. but, please consider this
simple rule.

   When you see the name of an array in an expression, it is simply
   "short-hand" for the address of the first element of the array.

I think ou can apply that rule  and come to the understanding
of the intent of the C and C++ languages.

    - Dave Rivers-

-- 
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  Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-18 19:36 +0100
    Re: Problem with array objects "A. Bolmarcich" <aggedor@earl-grey.cloud9.net> - 2011-05-19 13:20 -0500
      Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-20 14:29 +0100
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            Re: Problem with array objects Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-05-23 23:04 +0100
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                Re: Problem with array objects "Paul" <pchristor@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-05-25 16:36 +0100
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