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Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen

From Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen
Message-ID <3ec17c3152.martin@blueyonder.co.uk> (permalink)
References (16 earlier) <278ca22f52.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <mpro.luf1cr07cx91s01pl.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> <mpro.lugbpk00aretu03i0.vinceh@softrock.co.uk> <mpro.lugo6k03g9do001k3.news@stevefryatt.org.uk> <mpro.luhp6200uas8a045c.vinceh@softrock.co.uk>
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Date 2011-11-13 12:22 +0000

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The following bytes were arranged on 11 Nov 2011 by Vince M Hudd :

> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> > It's a lot simpler to say "this package is dependent on the WimpSWIVe
> > package" (to the package manager, not the user) and point the !Run file to
> > the place that the WimpSWIVe package installs the module than it is to try
> > and write instructions to tell the user how to set it all up manually.
>
> And it's even easier still to just load the module from within the
> application directory - even if using a package manager. There's no
> guarantee that a developer who makes poor choices like that is suddenly
> going to make only good ones because he's using a package manager.
>
> Package managers aren't supplied with a free dose of clue.

Which is exactly the point I was trying to make.  It's depressing how
many people contrived to fundamentally misunderstand it.

If a developer is incapable of following the existing, defined
procedures for loading modules, what on earth makes people think they
would magically follow the defined procedures for installing them?  All
the package management in the world won't stop humans being humans.
It's nothing like the magic bullet its proponents claim it to be.  My
experiences with RPMs led me to uncover this inconvenient fact.

-- 
  __<^>__
 / _   _ \         You always find something in the last place you look.
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VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 16:33 +0100
  Re: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 16:52 +0100
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 18:12 +0100
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen patric <patric@invalid.net> - 2011-10-29 18:11 +0000
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 22:25 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2011-10-30 22:37 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 01:00 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 22:36 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 18:53 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 20:09 +0100
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 11:20 +0000
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2011-11-01 12:02 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 12:31 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-01 15:52 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-11-01 18:12 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 22:14 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-02 18:02 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-02 18:04 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-02 22:08 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-01 12:54 +0000
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 12:23 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen fwibbler <thedoctor@thedeathzone.free-online.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 16:47 +0000
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 21:06 +0100
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-04 17:12 +0000
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-04 20:00 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-04 20:36 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 06:20 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 06:24 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-05 16:19 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 17:54 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-06 16:37 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 20:09 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Michael Gerbracht <nospam@cityweb.de> - 2011-11-13 10:51 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2011-11-19 10:12 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-05 21:44 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 09:24 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 19:59 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 04:04 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2011-11-07 10:04 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 18:06 +0100
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 18:59 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen SG nws <nwsgrp@ntlworld.com> - 2011-11-07 19:24 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 21:25 +0000
                SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-07 05:33 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-08 21:54 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-08 22:11 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 06:38 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 06:20 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-09 13:29 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 16:34 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-09 16:59 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-09 19:40 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 21:45 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 14:56 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-11-09 20:32 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Dr Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2011-11-09 22:03 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-11-09 22:32 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-09 23:02 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-10 15:44 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-10 20:13 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-10 23:36 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 05:45 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-11 16:40 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 02:10 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-12 07:48 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-12 09:18 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-12 11:44 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Vince M Hudd <vinceh@softrock.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 09:32 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 12:22 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2011-11-13 13:30 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Bazley <martin.bazley@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2011-11-15 01:20 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-13 22:11 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2011-11-14 19:08 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen David Pitt <pittdj@pittdj.co.uk> - 2011-11-14 19:25 +0000
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 05:38 +0100
                Re: SmartMenu - was: VRPC on a USB pen Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> - 2011-11-12 13:31 +0000
                Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-06 12:56 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-01 10:50 +0000
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 19:39 +0100
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:24 +0100
  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Sion <s.cleaver@mail.com> - 2011-10-29 09:46 -0700
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:40 +0200
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.freeuk.com> - 2011-10-29 19:41 +0100
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2011-10-30 21:49 +0000
  Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:26 +0200
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:47 +0200
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 20:28 +0100
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:40 +0100
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:45 +0100
            Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 00:00 +0100
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2011-10-30 00:03 +0100
              Re: VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-10-30 06:38 +0000
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:52 +0100
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 17:22 +0000
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 20:12 +0100
        VRPC on a USB pen Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 21:21 +0000
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Andrew Hodgkinson <ahodgkin@rowing.org.uk> - 2011-11-14 13:15 +0000
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-29 21:21 +0200
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2011-10-29 23:52 +0100
        Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 00:07 +0100
          Re: VRPC on a USB pen Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2011-10-31 01:05 +0000
    Re: VRPC on a USB pen Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2011-10-31 18:48 +0000
      Re: VRPC on a USB pen Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-11-01 20:23 +0100

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