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Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use?

From Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
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Subject Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use?
Date 2022-12-03 10:25 +0000
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gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> schrieb:
> We had the "What attributes of a programming language simplify its implementation?" discussion.
>
> It seems, though, that languages are implemented a small number of
> times, and used many times. So, designing for ease of use, instead of
> ease of implementation makes more sense.

Very much so.

> (Especially if you want a lot of people to want to use it.)
>
> One feature that I find makes them easier to use, and harder to
> implement, is no reserved words.

I think this is more a matter of extensibility than of ease of use,
but both are somewhat intertwined.

Adding a new reserved word is a breaking change, especially if that
word is often used.  See "new" in C++, which was something reasonable
to use in C, and is reserved in C++.

The life cycle of a programming language will have many revisions (if
it is successful, that is), and not having reserved keywords certainly
helps in two aspects: Existing user programs will continue to work,
and new features can be added in a way that is easier to read than
having to add special characters, so a new feature looks like a cat
walked over the keyboard, with capslock on.

Yes, this is a bit more pain for compiler writers, but far less than,
let's say, having to deal with SIMD.
[There's also the perl approach where you put a "use" at the top of the
program file saying which version of the language you want. -John]

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What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2022-12-01 14:20 -0800
  Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2022-12-02 02:09 -0800
  Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2022-12-03 10:25 +0000
    Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2022-12-03 22:16 +0100
      Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-12-06 09:56 -0800
        Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2022-12-06 12:43 -0800
          Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2022-12-07 10:14 +0000
        Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2022-12-07 12:13 +0100
          Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-12-07 17:53 -0800
            Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2022-12-08 21:42 +0100
              Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2022-12-08 14:44 -0800
                Re: C types, was What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2022-12-09 15:01 +0100
              Re: C types, was What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2022-12-08 18:35 -0800
              Re: C types, was What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-12-09 13:21 +0100
        Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2022-12-12 00:00 -0800
      Re: C types, was What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? "marb...@yahoo.co.uk" <marblypup@yahoo.co.uk> - 2022-12-09 07:40 -0800
        Re: C types, was What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2022-12-11 10:45 +0000
        Simple to implement and to use Christopher F Clark <christopher.f.clark@compiler-resources.com> - 2022-12-11 19:41 +0200
  Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? Christopher F Clark <christopher.f.clark@compiler-resources.com> - 2022-12-03 23:33 +0000
    Re: What attributes of a programming language simplify its use? gah4 <gah4@u.washington.edu> - 2022-12-03 17:15 -0800

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