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Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF

From	"Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Newsgroups	comp.protocols.time.ntp
Subject	Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF
Date	2026-04-27 20:03 +0000
Organization	Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
Message-ID	<20260427195938.1FC0519E@slippy.cwsent.com> (permalink)
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In message <CAMbSiYD=phHqGb=DjmYoZmYOjXWvv1r+TLex=ZjiyZHfaPYBAA@mail.gmail.c
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, Dave Hart writes:
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 14:11=E2=80=AFUTC Cy Schubert wrote:
>
> > The issue with ntpd is that it forks a subprocess, with a pipe between
> > both
> > processes. The child process write "R\n" to the pipe. If the parent does
> > not read two bytes it exits with an error. Just a guess here that monit
> > might have its fingers in the pipe.
> >
>
> ntpd does have --nofork/-n to avoid forking to daemonize.  I have not
> tested, but intuitively it seems like a better solution for FreeBSD's rc.d
> script.
>

I suppose users of monit could use that. rcng uses the .pid file to manage 
services. I don't see any benefit of changing the FreeBSD rc file to 
support an esoteric process monitoring application. Applications should 
conform to and work within the O/S, not the other way around. Though not 
posix pidfiles are a common UNIX-like management tool.

-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org
NTP:           <cy@nwtime.org>    Web:  https://nwtime.org

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ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-21 21:08 +0200
  Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-21 19:58 +0000
    Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-21 22:08 +0200
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Dave Hart via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-21 20:58 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-22 19:43 +0200
        Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Dave Hart" <davehart@gmail.com> - 2026-04-27 19:43 +0000
          Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-27 20:03 +0000
        Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-27 21:38 +0000
          Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-28 04:38 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-22 22:03 +0000
        Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-23 06:51 +0200
          Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-25 05:28 +0000
          Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-28 00:08 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-22 22:13 +0000
    Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-21 20:43 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-22 05:25 +0200
    Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Harlan Stenn via questions Mailing List" <questions@lists.ntp.org> - 2026-04-21 21:03 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Alexander Ziaee" <ziaee@FreeBSD.org> - 2026-04-22 10:03 +0000
        Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-22 12:37 +0200
          Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Alexander Ziaee" <ziaee@FreeBSD.org> - 2026-04-22 14:33 +0000
            Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-22 14:58 +0000
              Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Marco Moock" <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-22 16:18 +0000
    Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-27 15:13 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Marco Moock" <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-27 16:13 +0000
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-28 04:33 +0000
  Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Dave Hart" <davehart@gmail.com> - 2026-04-22 18:33 +0000
    Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-22 20:54 +0200
      Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-23 04:13 +0000
  Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Marco Moock" <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-25 09:38 +0000
  Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Ralph Blach" <chip.from.nc@gmail.com> - 2026-04-27 20:08 +0000
  Re: ntpd does not start daemon control: got EOF "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> - 2026-04-27 23:38 +0000

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