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Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z

From Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z
Date 2026-04-09 00:07 +0300
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <20260409000745.00006f67@yahoo.com> (permalink)
References <20260404213401.0000593a@yahoo.com> <10r3mh2$1ifl$2@gal.iecc.com> <10r5eor$b6q$1@reader1.panix.com> <10r6a2l$57g$1@gal.iecc.com> <10r6faj$91t$1@reader1.panix.com>

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On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 20:54:43 -0000 (UTC)
cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) wrote:

> In article <10r6a2l$57g$1@gal.iecc.com>, John Levine
> <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> >According to Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net>:  
> >>>Maybe he's thinking of what's known as DLL Hell, which resulted
> >>>from Microsoft's neglecting to put a version number in DLL
> >>>filenames. ...  
> >>
> >>Quite possibly!  It's interesting to note that Linux has also
> >>suffered from similar issues, exacerbated by libraries that
> >>don't handle versioning well.  Containers were the solution.  
> >
> >That's kind of sad.
> >
> >ELF library names include multi-part version numbers, with the plan
> >being that if the API changes you bump the major number, while if
> >it's a bug fix or otherwise compatible you just bump the minor
> >number.  Then you symlink the name with the minor version number
> >back to the name with just the major number so the lists of imported
> >library names just have the major number. This seems to work OK on
> >FreeBSD. What happens on linux?  
> 
> That works fine, as long as it's actually done.  It's when the
> plethora of dependencies a given program uses don't play by the
> rules that one runs into problems.
> 
> I suppose the issue is that on Windows it cannot be avoided due
> to a technical limitation, while on Linux, it can be, but often
> is not.
> 
> 	- Dan C.
> 

In Windows you always have an option of copying desired DLL into the
same directory with exe. This directory is always first in DLL search
order.
So, the only technical limitation here is the size of storage. The rest
is about culture.

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Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-04 21:34 +0300
  Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 20:39 +0000
    Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:08 +0000
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 23:32 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-04 20:12 -0500
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-05 00:14 -0400
            Re: Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-05 06:12 -0500
              Re: Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-06 13:09 -0400
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 09:56 +0000
            Re: Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-05 06:17 -0500
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 16:09 +0000
  Re: Arm to run within IBM z antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 02:35 +0000
    Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 02:56 +0000
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-04 21:11 -0700
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:34 +0000
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:04 -0700
            Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:30 +0000
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 12:51 +0300
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-05 15:04 +0000
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 16:16 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:31 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 03:57 +0000
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 07:04 +0000
            Re: Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 16:35 +0000
              Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-06 16:48 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:32 +0000
              Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-06 18:41 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:33 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-07 02:31 +0300
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-07 14:41 +0000
              Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 02:16 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:55 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-07 05:44 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-07 07:53 +0000
                Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-07 14:44 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-07 19:39 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-08 11:39 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-08 19:25 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-08 15:48 -0500
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-08 20:54 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-09 00:07 +0300
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-09 17:51 -0400
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-10 11:47 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-11 15:09 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-11 17:53 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-11 19:20 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 21:37 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 14:49 -0700
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 23:37 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-12 23:03 -0400
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 12:55 -0700
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-12 20:22 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-12 20:17 +0000
                Re: library confusion, Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-13 03:36 +0000
                Re: library confusion, Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-13 11:27 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-15 12:22 +0100
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:51 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 14:43 +0000
                Re: libraries, Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-16 01:24 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-16 00:49 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 22:35 -0400
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-19 03:04 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-19 00:34 -0400
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 06:03 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-04-13 09:21 -0700
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 17:21 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-04-13 18:55 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-13 20:15 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 20:20 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-04-14 04:51 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 05:54 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-04-14 16:23 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-13 19:56 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-15 12:22 +0100
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:53 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-15 22:28 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-08 19:48 +0000
                Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-04-09 09:49 -0400
              Re: Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-07 19:35 +0000
    Re: Arm to run within IBM z Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-04 20:56 -0700
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:36 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 13:41 +0300
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 17:04 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 04:04 +0000
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-06 12:29 +0300
    Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-05 05:24 +0000
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-05 19:14 +0000
  Re: Arm to run within IBM z jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-05 12:43 +0100
    Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-05 15:12 +0000
      Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-06 12:21 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-06 16:46 +0000
        Re: Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 02:27 -0700
          Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-09 14:49 +0000
    Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:35 +0000
  Re: Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 18:41 -0700

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