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Re: IA-64

From Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: IA-64
Date 2026-03-04 20:06 +0200
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2026 07:44:39 -0800
Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> wrote:

> On 3/3/2026 1:55 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes:  
> >> On 3/3/2026 11:01 AM, MitchAlsup wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> posted:
> >>>  
> >>>> On 3/1/2026 1:13 PM, MitchAlsup wrote:  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> posted:  
> >>
> >> snip
> >>  
> >>>>> cpu designers minimize latency at a given BW, while
> >>>>> Long term store designers maximize BW at acceptable latency.
> >>>>> Completely different design points.  
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps that it true now, but it certainly didn't use to be.  In
> >>>> 1979-1980 I wrote the microcode to add caching to my employer's
> >>>> disk controller, making it the industry's first true cache disk
> >>>> controller. This was almost all about reducing latency (from
> >>>> tens of milliseconds on a non cache controller to hundreds of
> >>>> microseconds on a cache hit). There was a small improvement in
> >>>> transfer rate, but the latency reduction dominated the
> >>>> improvement.  
> >>>
> >>> There is an SSD that can perform 3,300,000×4096B random read
> >>> transfers per second on a PCIe 5.0-×4 connector. That is 13.2GB/s
> >>> over the PCIe link which is BW limited to 15.x GB/s. Each "RAS"
> >>> has a 70µs access delay.  
> >>
> >> Wow!  But I think you will agree that design is unlikely to be
> >> used for "mass market" hundreds of terabyte systems used for
> >> commercial database systems, etc.  
> > 
> > I think you'll find that the commercial databases are dominated
> > by high-end NVMe (PCI based SSDs) for working storage, with
> > spinning rust as archive storage.
> > 
> > For example, a 61TB MVME PCIe gen5 SSD for USD7,700.00.
> > 
> > https://techatlantix.com/mzwmo61thclf-00aw7.html  
> 
> I freely admit that I am "out of the loop" for modern systems.
> However, this system costs about $125/TB.  A quick check of Amazon
> shows typical hard disk prices at about $25 /TB. 

That's not a fare comparison.
$25/TB you see on Amazon is likely 5400 rpm 4TB disk.
So, at 61 TB you only have 15 spindles. It means that even in ideal
conditions of accesses distributed evenly to all disks your sequential
read bandwidth is no better than ~1,200 MB/s.
For comparison, sequential read speed of BM1743 SSD is 7,500 MB/s.

In order to get comparable bandwidth with HDs you will need
95 spindles. May be, a little less with 7200 rpm. I don't know how many
spindles would you need with 13000 rpm HDs that enterprises used to use
for databases 20+ years ago. It seems, they had better latency than
7200, but about the same bandwidth. Anyway, I m not even sure that
anybody makes them still.

95 disks alone almost certainly cost more than 8KUSD. And on top of
that you will need a dozen of expensive RAID controllers.

So, essentially, when you paid 8KUSD for this SSD, you paid it for
bandwidth alone. 100x improvement in latency that you got over HD-based
solution is a free bonus. Density and power too.

> Are you saying that
> typical current systems are paying about 5 times the price, and way
> greater than the cost of the CPU for such systems?  While obviously
> there is a market for such systems, it is hard for me to believe that
> the typical "enterprise" customer would be that market.  Amazing!
> 
>

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Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 22:27 -0400
  Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-07 14:41 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-07 23:22 -0400
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-08 18:06 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-09 23:59 -0400
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 02:00 -0500
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 10:58 -0400
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 16:07 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 09:54 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2024-09-11 08:48 -0700
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:32 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 23:37 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-12 16:46 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 15:28 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-12 20:46 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2024-09-13 11:08 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-13 17:09 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 18:44 -0500
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:30 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:28 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-12 05:37 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 03:21 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 06:21 -0400
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:27 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 03:13 -0400
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 01:45 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 16:03 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 20:38 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 04:13 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-26 14:11 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 08:58 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 00:04 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-04 06:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:54 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-05 09:43 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-09 06:44 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-09 14:43 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-09 16:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-09 15:37 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 14:10 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 05:38 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-12 18:50 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 15:14 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 18:20 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-12 23:28 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-13 02:46 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-13 18:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 20:36 -0500
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                Re: Page fetching cache controller mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-31 19:11 +0000
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                Re: register sets Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-04-16 23:26 -0700
                Re: register sets scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-17 13:35 +0000
                Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 14:24 -0400
                Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-17 18:26 +0000
                Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 21:56 -0400
                Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-18 17:12 +0000
                Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 02:44 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 21:26 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-21 06:05 +0000
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                Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-21 17:29 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-22 05:10 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-22 11:23 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-22 17:31 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-22 22:32 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-04-22 22:59 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-23 18:09 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-24 10:10 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-25 20:51 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-24 09:47 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-23 17:44 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-23 21:34 +0000
                Re: asynch register rename Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 23:31 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:36 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-27 20:53 +0000
                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 22:32 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-28 10:06 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-28 10:50 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 22:35 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-29 21:39 +0000
                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 01:21 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-04-30 18:09 +0000
                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 19:00 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-05-02 11:18 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 17:03 +0100
                Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-05-02 13:22 -0400
                Re: fractional PCs moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 20:01 +0100
                Re: millicode, extracode, fractional PCs John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-02 17:26 +0000
                Re: millicode, extracode, fractional PCs moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 20:00 +0100
                Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-30 19:04 +0000
                Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-28 22:02 +0000
                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 22:00 -0400
                Re: control co-processor Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 00:40 -0400
                Re: control co-processor Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-05-05 03:01 -0700
                Re: control co-processor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-05 13:46 +0000
                Re: control co-processor Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-05 10:02 -0400
                Re: control co-processor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-05 16:19 +0000
                Scan chains (was: control co-processor) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-06 23:12 -0400
                Re: Scan chains (was: control co-processor) Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-05-06 21:08 -0700
                Re: Scan chains Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-07 10:58 -0400
                Re: Scan chains mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-07 16:57 +0000
                Re: Scan chains Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-07 15:03 -0400
                Re: Scan chains mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-08 01:04 +0000
                Re: Scan chains mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:21 +0000
                Re: control co-processor mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-06 22:17 +0000
                Re: control co-processor EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-05-06 19:58 -0400
                Re: control co-processor mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-07 16:44 +0000
                Re: control co-processor mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:09 +0000
                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-25 13:19 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-24 08:54 -0400
                Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-22 16:45 +0000
                Re: register sets John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-15 04:56 +0000
                Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:16 +0000
                Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-07-19 08:18 -0400
                Re: register sets anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-19 16:37 +0000
                Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-19 20:02 +0000
                Re: register sets John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-15 04:49 +0000
                Re: register sets scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-07-15 14:10 +0000
                Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:14 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2024-10-15 09:49 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-13 16:43 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 12:28 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-05 23:02 +0000
  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 23:52 -0400
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-29 00:14 -0700
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:41 -0400
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:50 -0400
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 13:04 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-29 17:44 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:29 -0700
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-29 22:31 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:10 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 12:29 -0500
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-30 16:46 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-30 23:39 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-30 22:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-31 00:57 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 13:21 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 14:32 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 02:21 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 10:06 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:58 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 16:56 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 17:21 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-10-31 21:12 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:00 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-01 19:18 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 04:29 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:05 -0700
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:52 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 15:58 -0500
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:26 -0400
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:48 -0500
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-29 18:15 +0000
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:02 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:01 -0400
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-30 07:13 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-30 13:53 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-30 17:58 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:06 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:33 +0000
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:20 -0400
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:09 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-10-31 21:09 +0100
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-01 18:19 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-01 21:08 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-02 11:36 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-02 15:56 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-02 16:09 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-02 18:14 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-02 20:19 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-03 15:22 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 11:53 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-03 23:04 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-04 15:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-04 17:41 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 20:16 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-04 07:47 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 16:52 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-04 18:54 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 20:13 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-04 21:07 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 22:52 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-05 11:18 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-05 15:42 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-04 22:51 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 23:43 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-05 07:13 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 09:25 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:53 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-06 17:44 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-05 11:21 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 10:15 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:06 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-06 11:24 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-06 13:11 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 14:28 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:57 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 20:23 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 22:18 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - PI as decimal float Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 00:34 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - PI as decimal float BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 01:30 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-08 11:28 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-09 17:22 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-10 02:12 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 03:40 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-10 06:30 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-10 08:16 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 13:54 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 00:08 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 21:25 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 12:02 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 04:44 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 14:03 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 21:34 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-12 11:47 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 09:24 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-13 12:18 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 18:09 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 20:40 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 21:50 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:13 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 20:00 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-28 02:10 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-01 17:51 +0100
                Re: Interruptible instructions, was Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-28 04:47 +0000
                Re: Interruptible instructions, was Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-28 07:34 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-01-28 15:34 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 22:31 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-05 19:02 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 14:35 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-08 18:22 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-09 19:33 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 21:18 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 15:51 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-10 17:53 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-02-10 14:13 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-11 15:05 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-02-12 10:27 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-06 15:54 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 20:05 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-19 08:02 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 05:53 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-19 19:59 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 17:04 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-20 15:14 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-19 23:10 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 00:06 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-19 22:35 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-21 18:41 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:38 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 13:37 +0000
                Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-22 03:00 +0000
                Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 09:16 +0000
                Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-22 19:20 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-22 20:14 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 23:08 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-23 01:32 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-23 06:55 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-23 21:22 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-24 10:41 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-01 21:12 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-03 11:22 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-03 20:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 15:29 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:49 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 01:00 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:15 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 14:59 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 22:56 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 17:32 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-22 21:52 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 14:54 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 19:27 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-27 19:57 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 16:14 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 17:01 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:57 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-28 17:36 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-01 12:18 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-01 19:19 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-01 20:24 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-01 07:55 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:41 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 05:38 -0500
                IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-21 16:18 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:28 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 13:17 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-22 17:05 +0200
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-23 08:06 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-23 13:03 +0200
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 10:46 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-24 12:30 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 18:26 +0200
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 08:17 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-23 13:44 +0200
                large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 09:50 +0000
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 17:23 +0200
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 17:30 +0000
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 22:22 +0200
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-25 15:07 +0200
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 18:32 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-23 21:33 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-23 10:14 -0800
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 11:25 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-24 07:51 -0800
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 07:33 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-26 09:08 -0800
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-27 09:52 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-28 10:08 -0800
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-01 21:13 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 09:15 -0800
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-03 17:37 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 09:53 -0800
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 19:01 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 11:35 -0800
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-03 21:55 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 07:44 -0800
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-04 15:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 20:06 +0200
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-04 20:15 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 14:06 -0600
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 15:03 -0600
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 00:28 +0200
                Re: Page size in root pointer Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:16 -0400
                Re: Page size in root pointer MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:54 +0000
                Re: Page size in root pointer BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:37 -0500
                Re: Page size in root pointer Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-09 04:50 +0000
                Re: Page size in root pointer Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 03:01 -0400
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 12:13 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 13:37 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 15:10 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 18:30 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 19:39 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 21:03 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-08 18:59 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:34 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-15 16:09 +0000
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-17 01:11 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-17 21:39 +0000
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 21:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-17 23:27 +0000
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 20:38 -0400
                Re: IA-64 Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 21:00 -0400
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 15:56 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-18 17:30 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 15:51 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-18 21:41 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-18 21:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:20 +0000
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 15:48 -0400
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 21:51 +0000
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 18:06 -0400
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 15:14 -0500
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:14 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 04:49 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-03-20 14:03 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:04 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 16:26 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:31 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 18:56 +0100
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 16:20 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 14:39 -0500
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-21 15:20 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 13:31 -0500
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 13:47 -0500
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:05 +0100
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 19:35 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 15:09 -0500
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-21 15:35 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-21 23:51 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 02:48 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:20 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 15:34 +0000
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 16:59 +0100
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:10 +0100
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-22 16:34 +0000
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-23 11:14 +0100
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-20 21:19 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-21 18:52 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-21 18:44 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 00:54 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:08 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-08 10:56 -0400
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-08 12:53 -0400
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 19:43 +0100
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:18 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:06 -0500
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-08 17:18 -0400
                multi-bit per cell RAM (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-09 08:04 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:19 -0500
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 18:51 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-03-05 12:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 18:55 +0000
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-28 21:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-02 17:12 -0800
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 02:34 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-04 09:22 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 07:19 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-04 19:03 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 20:25 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-04 19:38 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 21:17 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 11:49 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 23:48 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-07 13:21 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 19:03 +0200
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-08 08:27 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 13:15 +0200
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-08 12:36 +0000
                Re: IA-64 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-04 21:07 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 23:35 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:46 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 12:07 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 12:22 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-07 13:29 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 19:19 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 19:07 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 21:21 +0200
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-05 11:07 -0500
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-05 14:47 -0500
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:08 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-05 08:36 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-05 12:02 -0500
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-05 17:14 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-05 14:18 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 19:41 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 18:10 +0000
                Re: IA-64 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-06 19:52 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-07 15:53 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-06 11:34 -0800
                Re: IA-64 George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-03-07 16:03 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-09 22:42 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-12 21:07 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-14 16:27 +0100
                Re: GPU books? Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:07 -0400
                Re: GPU books? EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-16 12:06 -0400
                Re: GPU books? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 12:34 -0700
                Re: GPU books? MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-15 14:14 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-16 15:35 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 01:01 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-18 17:38 +0100
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-18 20:28 +0100
                Re: IA-64 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 21:05 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-23 21:01 -0700
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-24 09:24 +0100
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-05 02:54 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 14:54 -0600
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 19:04 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-27 19:31 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:48 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 05:39 -0600
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-01 19:02 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 18:05 -0600
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-02 02:03 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 04:24 -0600
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-08 17:53 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:15 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:43 -0500
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-09 13:14 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 19:30 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-10 13:04 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-10 18:28 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-11 12:14 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-11 21:37 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-12 10:56 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 23:51 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-28 19:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-29 07:13 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-29 12:30 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-29 12:30 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-01 18:01 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-14 14:18 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 22:32 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 14:34 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 21:58 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 00:43 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 19:17 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 03:59 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-19 12:53 -0600
                Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 07:18 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 18:48 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 22:38 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 01:22 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 01:28 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 14:45 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-15 15:36 +0100
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 18:04 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 14:34 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:41 +0000

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