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Re: Tonights Tradeoff

From Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: Tonights Tradeoff
Date 2025-11-11 12:02 +0200
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 21:25:47 -0600
BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/10/2025 4:08 PM, Michael S wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 13:54:23 -0600
> > BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 11/10/2025 1:16 AM, Terje Mathisen wrote:  
> >>> BGB wrote:  
> >>>> DIV uses Newton-Raphson
> >>>> The process of converging is a lot more fiddly than with Binary
> >>>> FP. Partly as the strategy for generating the initial guess is
> >>>> far less accurate.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, it first uses a loop with hard-coded checks and scales to get
> >>>> it in the general area, before then letting N-R take over. If the
> >>>> value isn't close enough (seemingly +/- 25% or so), N-R flies off
> >>>> into space.
> >>>>
> >>>> Namely:
> >>>>     Exponent is wrong:
> >>>>       Scale by factors of 2 until correct;
> >>>>     Off by more than 50%, scale by +/- 25%;
> >>>>     Off by more than 25%, scale by +/- 12.5%;
> >>>>     Else: Good enough, let normal N-R take over.  
> >>>
> >>> My possibly naive idea would extract the top 9-15 digits from
> >>> divisor and dividend, convert both to binary FP, do the division
> >>> and convert back.
> >>>
> >>> That would reduce the NR step to two or three iterations, right?
> >>>      
> >>
> >> After adding code to feed to convert to/from 'double', and using
> >> this for initial reciprocal and square-root:
> >>     DIV gets around 50% faster:  ~ 1.5 MHz (~ 12x slower than
> >> MUL);  
> > 
> > That is your timing for Decimal128 on modern desktop PC?
> > Dependent divisions or independent?
> > Even for dependent, it sounds slow.
> >   
> 
> Modern-ish...
> 

Zen2 ?
I consider it the last of non-modern. Zen3 and Ice Lake are first
of modern. 128by64 bit integer division on Zen2 is still quite slow
and overall uArch is even less advanced than 10 y.o. Intel Skylake.
In majority of real-world workloads it's partially compensated by
Zen2 bigger L3 cache. In our case big cache does not help.
But even last non-modern CPU shall be capable to divide faster than
suggested by your numbers.


> I am running a CPU type that was originally released 7 years ago,
> with slower RAM than it was designed to work with.
> 
> 
> > Did you try to compare against brute force calculation using GMP?
> > https://gmplib.org/
> > I.e.  asuming that num < den < 10*num use GMP to calculate 40
> > decimal digits of intermediate result y as follows:
> > Numx = num * 1e40;
> > y = Numx/den;
> > Yi = y / 1e6, Yf = y % 1e6 (this step does not require GMP, figure
> > out why).
> > If Yf != 5e5 then you finished. Only in extremely rare case (1 in a
> > million) of Yf == 5e5 you will have to calculate reminder of
> > Numx/den to found correct rounding.
> > Somehow, I suspect that on modern PC even non-optimized method like
> > above will be faster tham 670 usec.
> > 
> >   
> 
> 
> Well, first step is building with GCC rather than MSVC...
> 
> It would appear that it gets roughly 79% faster when built with GCC.
>    So, around 2 million divides per second.
> 
> 
> 
> As for GMP, dividing two 40 digit numbers:
>    22 million per second.
> If I do both a divide and a remainder:
>    16 million.
> 
> I don't really get what you are wanting me to measure exactly
> though...


I want you to measure division of 74-digit integer by 34-digit integer,
because it is the slowest part [of brute force implementation] of
Decimal128 division. The rest of division is approximately the same as
multiplication.
So, [unoptimized] Decimal128 division time should be no worse than
t1+t2, where t1 is duration of Decimal128 multiplication and t2 is
duration of above-mentioned integer division. An estimate is
pessimistic, because post-division normalization tends to be simpler
than post-multiplication normalization.
Optimized division would be faster yet. 

> 
> 
> If I compare against the IBM decNumber library:
>    Multiply: 14 million.
>    Divide: 7 million
> 
> The decNumber library doesn't appear to have a square-root function...
> 
> 
> Granted, there are possibly faster ways to do divide, versus using 
> Newton-Raphson in this case...
> 
> It was not the point that I could pull the fastest possible 
> implementation out of thin air. But, does appear I am beating
> decNumber at least for multiply performance and similar.
> 
>

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    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-07 23:22 -0400
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-08 18:06 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-09 23:59 -0400
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            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 10:58 -0400
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 16:07 -0500
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                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2024-09-11 08:48 -0700
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:32 +0000
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                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-03 15:22 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 11:53 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-03 23:04 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-04 15:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-04 17:41 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 20:16 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-04 07:47 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 16:52 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-04 18:54 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 20:13 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-04 21:07 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 22:52 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-05 11:18 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-05 15:42 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-04 22:51 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 23:43 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-05 07:13 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 09:25 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:53 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-06 17:44 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-05 11:21 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 10:15 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:06 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-06 11:24 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-06 13:11 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 14:28 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:57 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 20:23 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 22:18 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - PI as decimal float Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 00:34 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - PI as decimal float BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 01:30 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-08 11:28 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-09 17:22 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-10 02:12 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 03:40 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-10 06:30 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-10 08:16 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 13:54 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 00:08 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 21:25 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 12:02 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 04:44 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 14:03 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 21:34 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-12 11:47 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 09:24 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-13 12:18 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 18:09 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 20:40 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 21:50 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:13 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 20:00 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-28 02:10 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-01 17:51 +0100
                Re: Interruptible instructions, was Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-28 04:47 +0000
                Re: Interruptible instructions, was Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-28 07:34 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-01-28 15:34 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 22:31 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-05 19:02 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 14:35 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-08 18:22 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-09 19:33 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 21:18 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 15:51 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-10 17:53 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-02-10 14:13 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-11 15:05 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-02-12 10:27 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-06 15:54 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 20:05 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-19 08:02 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 05:53 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-19 19:59 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 17:04 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-20 15:14 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-19 23:10 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 00:06 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-19 22:35 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-21 18:41 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:38 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 13:37 +0000
                Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-22 03:00 +0000
                Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 09:16 +0000
                Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-22 19:20 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-22 20:14 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 23:08 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-23 01:32 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-23 06:55 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-23 21:22 +0000
                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-24 10:41 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-01 21:12 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-03 11:22 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-03 20:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 15:29 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:49 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 01:00 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:15 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 14:59 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 22:56 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 17:32 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-22 21:52 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 14:54 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 19:27 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-27 19:57 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 16:14 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 17:01 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:57 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-28 17:36 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-01 12:18 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-01 19:19 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-01 20:24 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-01 07:55 -0800
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:41 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 05:38 -0500
                IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-21 16:18 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:28 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 13:17 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-22 17:05 +0200
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-23 08:06 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-23 13:03 +0200
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 10:46 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-24 12:30 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 18:26 +0200
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 08:17 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-23 13:44 +0200
                large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 09:50 +0000
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 17:23 +0200
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 17:30 +0000
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 22:22 +0200
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-25 15:07 +0200
                Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 18:32 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-23 21:33 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-23 10:14 -0800
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 11:25 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-24 07:51 -0800
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 07:33 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-26 09:08 -0800
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-27 09:52 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-28 10:08 -0800
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-01 21:13 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 09:15 -0800
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-03 17:37 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 09:53 -0800
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 19:01 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 11:35 -0800
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-03 21:55 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 07:44 -0800
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-04 15:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 20:06 +0200
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-04 20:15 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 14:06 -0600
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 15:03 -0600
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 00:28 +0200
                Re: Page size in root pointer Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:16 -0400
                Re: Page size in root pointer MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:54 +0000
                Re: Page size in root pointer BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:37 -0500
                Re: Page size in root pointer Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-09 04:50 +0000
                Re: Page size in root pointer Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 03:01 -0400
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 12:13 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 13:37 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 15:10 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 18:30 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 19:39 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 21:03 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-08 18:59 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:34 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-15 16:09 +0000
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-17 01:11 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-17 21:39 +0000
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 21:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-17 23:27 +0000
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 20:38 -0400
                Re: IA-64 Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 21:00 -0400
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 15:56 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-18 17:30 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 15:51 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-18 21:41 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-18 21:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:20 +0000
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 15:48 -0400
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 21:51 +0000
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 18:06 -0400
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 15:14 -0500
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:14 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 04:49 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-03-20 14:03 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:04 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 16:26 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:31 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 18:56 +0100
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 16:20 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 14:39 -0500
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-21 15:20 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 13:31 -0500
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 13:47 -0500
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:05 +0100
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 19:35 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 15:09 -0500
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-21 15:35 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-21 23:51 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 02:48 +0200
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:20 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 15:34 +0000
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 16:59 +0100
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:10 +0100
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-22 16:34 +0000
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-23 11:14 +0100
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-20 21:19 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-21 18:52 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-21 18:44 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 00:54 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:08 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-08 10:56 -0400
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-08 12:53 -0400
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 19:43 +0100
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:18 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:06 -0500
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-08 17:18 -0400
                multi-bit per cell RAM (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-09 08:04 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:19 -0500
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 18:51 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-03-05 12:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 18:55 +0000
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-28 21:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-02 17:12 -0800
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 02:34 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-04 09:22 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 07:19 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-04 19:03 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 20:25 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-04 19:38 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 21:17 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 11:49 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 23:48 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-07 13:21 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 19:03 +0200
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-08 08:27 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 13:15 +0200
                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-08 12:36 +0000
                Re: IA-64 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-04 21:07 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 23:35 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:46 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 12:07 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:49 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 12:22 +0200
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-07 13:29 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 19:19 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 19:07 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 21:21 +0200
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-05 11:07 -0500
                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-05 14:47 -0500
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:08 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-05 08:36 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-05 12:02 -0500
                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-05 17:14 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-05 14:18 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 19:41 +0200
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 18:10 +0000
                Re: IA-64 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-06 19:52 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-07 15:53 -0800
                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-06 11:34 -0800
                Re: IA-64 George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-03-07 16:03 -0500
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-09 22:42 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-12 21:07 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-14 16:27 +0100
                Re: GPU books? Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:07 -0400
                Re: GPU books? EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-16 12:06 -0400
                Re: GPU books? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 12:34 -0700
                Re: GPU books? MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:57 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-15 14:14 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-16 15:35 +0100
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 01:01 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-18 17:38 +0100
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-18 20:28 +0100
                Re: IA-64 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 21:05 -0700
                Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-23 21:01 -0700
                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-24 09:24 +0100
                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-05 02:54 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 14:54 -0600
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 19:04 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-27 19:31 +0000
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:48 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 05:39 -0600
                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-01 19:02 +0100
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 18:05 -0600
                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-02 02:03 +0000
                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 04:24 -0600
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-08 17:53 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:15 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:43 -0500
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-09 13:14 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 19:30 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-10 13:04 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-10 18:28 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-11 12:14 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-11 21:37 +0000
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-12 10:56 -0400
                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 23:51 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-28 19:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-29 07:13 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-29 12:30 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-29 12:30 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-01 18:01 +0100
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-14 14:18 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 22:32 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 14:34 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 21:58 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 00:43 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 19:17 -0600
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 03:59 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-19 12:53 -0600
                Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 07:18 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 18:48 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 22:38 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 01:22 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 01:28 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 14:45 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-15 15:36 +0100
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 18:04 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 14:34 +0000
                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:41 +0000

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