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Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features

From Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features
Date 2025-10-03 13:46 +0300
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2025 08:58:32 GMT
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote:

> Apparently someone wants to create a big-endian RISC-V, and someone
> proposed adding support to that to Linux.  This has evoked the
> following design guideline for designing bad architectures from Linus
> Torvalds (extracted from
> <https://lwn.net/ml/all/CAHk-=wji-hEV1U1x92TLsrPbpSPqDD7Cgv2YwzeL-mMbM7iaRA@mail.gmail.com/>):
> 
> |If somebody really wants to create bad hardware in this day and age,
> |please do make it big-endian, and also add the following very
> |traditional features for sh*t-for-brains hardware:
> |
> | - virtually tagged caches
> |
> |   You can't really claim to be worst-of-the-worst without virtually
> |tagged caches.
> |
> |  Tears of joy as you debug cache alias issues and of flushing caches
> |on context switches.
> |

That is only true if one insists on OS with Multiple Address Spaces.
Virtually tagged caches are fine for Single Address Space (SAS) OS.

I see nothing wrong (and plenty right) about SAS as long as address
space is big enough.
I.e. not 47-48 bits and preferably even not 56 bits. Considering
near-death of Moore Law, 58 or 60 bits should be enough for SAS for
next 50 years. May be, even for 100.

SAS does not allow few tricks that people play today with aliases, but
none of these tricks is really important for performance and all are
detrimental for sanity.

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Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-03 08:58 +0000
  Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 05:40 -0500
  Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-03 13:46 +0300
    SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-10-03 11:26 -0400
      Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-03 15:42 +0000
        Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-10-03 16:18 +0000
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-10-03 15:44 -0400
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-10-06 06:54 -0400
            Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-10-06 16:44 +0000
      Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 17:42 -0500
      Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-10-04 04:36 +0000
        Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-10-04 18:36 +0000
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-04 19:00 +0000
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-04 12:31 -0700
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-05 01:05 +0300
            Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-10-04 22:44 +0000
              Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 17:57 -0500
              Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-05 02:18 +0300
              Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-10-05 13:02 -0400
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-10-04 14:17 -1000
          Re: SASOS and virtually tagged caches (was: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features) kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-10-06 15:49 +0000
  Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-03 15:41 +0000
    Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-03 16:19 -0500
  Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 13:57 +0000
  Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:41 +0000
    Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-09 22:10 +0000
    Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-09 22:21 +0000
      Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-10 08:30 +0000
        Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-10 15:02 +0000
    Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-11 07:18 +0000
      Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-10-12 02:37 +0000
        Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 07:13 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 09:51 +0000
            Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 10:14 +0000
              Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-12 13:56 +0300
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 11:38 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-12 15:31 +0300
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 13:36 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-12 20:13 +0300
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 17:47 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-12 19:31 +0000
              Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 13:31 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 15:10 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 15:48 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 16:25 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 17:25 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 20:03 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-12 21:07 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2025-10-13 17:26 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-12 19:56 +0300
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-12 17:02 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-10-12 21:07 +0000
        Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-12 16:11 +0000
          Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-12 13:04 -0500
          Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 00:10 +0000
            Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-28 17:43 +0000
              Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-12-28 13:34 -0500
              Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-12-28 13:55 -0500
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-12-28 16:09 -0600
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-28 23:00 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-29 06:59 +0000
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-29 08:17 +0000
                word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-29 09:08 +0000
                Re: word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-29 13:39 +0000
                Re: word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-31 02:54 +0000
                Re: word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-31 09:43 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-01 17:46 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-04 00:21 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-04 04:12 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-04 08:06 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-04 12:20 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-04 18:01 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:20 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-05 09:08 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-01-06 22:06 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 13:34 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-01-07 13:16 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 17:55 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 17:39 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-07 18:58 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:05 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 23:47 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 22:10 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 00:59 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 14:23 -0600
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 21:16 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-01-28 13:25 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 15:26 -0600
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-28 23:03 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 17:43 -0600
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-01-29 03:47 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-29 21:30 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-29 17:44 -0600
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-07 18:56 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 14:38 -0600
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 21:18 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 16:10 -0600
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-08 00:05 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:38 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 10:52 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:50 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-08 13:10 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:54 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-08 21:35 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-09 01:24 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-10 18:02 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 15:01 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-11 18:18 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 20:50 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-11 22:11 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 12:20 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-13 14:45 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-21 01:44 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-21 11:05 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-14 20:49 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-21 22:33 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 14:37 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-01-22 15:12 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-22 22:57 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-01-23 13:47 -0500
                [OT] Usenet (was: floating point history ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-24 15:58 +0000
                Re: [OT] Usenet (was: floating point history ...) David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2026-01-25 01:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Usenet (was: floating point history ...) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-01-25 18:12 -0500
                Re: [OT] Usenet (was: floating point history ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-26 21:38 +0000
                Re: [OT] Usenet Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-01-27 12:19 +0200
                Re: [OT] Usenet (was: floating point history ...) George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-01-27 06:33 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-01-24 09:11 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-25 22:13 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 22:30 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 01:07 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 01:10 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 00:57 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:14 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-11 12:52 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-11 18:07 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 12:40 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 15:41 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 15:40 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-08 13:05 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 00:33 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 14:31 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-10 23:21 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:03 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-11 18:08 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-11 08:38 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-11 19:03 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-12 22:22 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-13 09:55 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-04 18:47 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-04 14:12 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:14 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-04 13:05 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-05 08:51 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-05 11:55 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-05 19:26 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-05 14:33 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-06 17:26 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-05 17:40 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-07 17:57 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-09 16:32 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 11:49 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-11 18:11 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 00:37 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-12 02:05 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-12 16:28 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-05 08:16 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-05 10:21 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-01-05 11:05 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-05 18:03 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-01-05 13:51 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-01-05 14:21 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-01-05 10:31 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-01-05 11:02 -0500
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-06 18:14 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 15:40 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-04 13:22 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-04 12:36 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-04 16:45 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-04 19:35 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-06 12:35 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-06 15:26 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-06 17:06 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-06 20:15 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:35 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:56 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-06 20:12 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:29 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 15:06 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:24 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 18:06 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 16:41 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-07 17:32 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 19:14 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-08 12:50 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 15:41 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-08 21:25 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 22:50 +0200
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order (was: Linus Torvalds ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 17:44 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-07 10:22 -0800
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-07 18:47 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-07 18:38 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-01-07 18:38 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:11 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-08 13:01 +0100
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:52 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 19:19 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-07 19:56 +0000
                Re: floating point history, word order and byte order Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-01-04 13:17 +0100
                Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-12-29 13:48 -0500
            Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-12-28 19:21 +0000
              Re: Linus Torvalds on bad architectural features MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-28 21:34 +0000

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