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Re: The Fall Of OS/2

From John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: The Fall Of OS/2
Date 2024-10-07 14:32 -0700
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On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 20:41:05 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> The freedesktop.org standards are supposed by all the major GUI
> desktops. Of course they each have their own theming system and
> plugins etc.

"Supposed" is an apt typo here.

> I never understood why that was such a big deal. I’ve used so many
> GUIs over the years/decades that switching between different ones is
> really not an issue. They all pretty much behave the same anyway, so
> what if the window title bar is a slightly different shape, and the
> icons have different colours? A computer is for getting work done,
> I’m not one of those wasting hours trying to make things look pretty.

Well, it's distracting having to constantly switch mental contexts to
adapt to whichever of 3+ different look-and-feel variations the program
I'm currently using has decided to present me with, but that's a fairly
minor annoyance. Much more annoying are all the subtle ways it screws
with my workflow: does Alt tapped by itself active the menu bar Windows-
style (as in Qt,) or does it require Alt plus an accelerator key (GTK?)
Does the file-select/save dialog default to the last active document
directory (some Qt/GTK2 applications,) the home directory (other Qt/
GTK2 applications,) or some phantom neverland where you can't save
anything (GTK3?) Does type-ahead in file-manager windows/file dialogs
quick-select between files in the current directory, or start a search
of all subdirectories?

There's a million permutations of all these subtle inconsistencies, and
while any given answer to each question may be valid (except the ones
GTK3 chooses, which are without fail stupid and counterproductive,)
constantly having to switch on the fly between them makes it impossible
to build up any kind of consistent workflow; the fact that I keep
having to think about how this or that application does things on a
very basic level means I can never reach the state where I can stop
*thinking* and just *work,* free of distraction.

> Think about the value of the time of those who wrote the things you
> are using for free ...

When I think about the people who made decisions the consequence of
which is software that annoys me and gets in my way, my primary emotion
is not one of gratitude.

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The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 00:31 +0000
  Re: The Fall Of OS/2 ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2024-10-06 02:47 +0000
    Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:27 +0000
      Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-06 06:55 -0400
        Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-06 15:58 -0700
          Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 23:24 +0000
          Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2024-10-07 04:16 +0000
        Re: The Fall Of OS/2 OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-07 10:47 -0400
          Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 20:37 +0000
            Re: The Fall Of OS/2 OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-08 13:08 -0400
              Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-08 20:25 +0000
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-08 19:45 -0700
    Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 21:03 -0700
  Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 20:57 -0700
    Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 13:40 +0000
      Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-06 14:16 -0700
        Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 21:31 +0000
          Re: The Fall Of OS/2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-07 09:35 -0700
            Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 20:41 +0000
              Re: The Fall Of OS/2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-07 14:32 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 21:44 +0000
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-07 15:19 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 02:41 +0000
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-08 09:59 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 23:12 +0000
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-14 15:02 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-17 23:25 +0000
              Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Bozo User <anthk@disroot.org> - 2024-10-11 14:49 +0000
    Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-06 15:58 -0700
      Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 23:26 +0000
        Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-06 18:05 -0700
          Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-07 03:11 +0000
            Re: The Fall Of OS/2 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-07 09:09 -0700
              Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-07 15:52 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-08 02:45 +0000
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-08 19:56 -0700
            Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-07 15:52 -0700
              Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-08 20:14 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-09 05:48 +0000
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2024-10-10 19:28 -0700
                Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-11 05:42 +0000
  Re: The Fall Of OS/2 jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-10-06 10:10 +0100
    Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-06 07:01 -0400
    Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-06 09:08 -1000
      Re: The Fall Of OS/2 Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-06 13:33 -1000

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