Re: web

From	snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Newsgroups	comp.infosystems, comp.misc
Subject	Re: web
Date	2025-01-19 16:05 +0000
Organization	Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds
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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

> Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
> 
> > In short, gopher is not the web.  It does not use the HTTP protocol,
> > the HTML format, nor other web standards such as Javascript.  Gopher
> > is a separate protocol that is not directly viewable in mainstream
> > browsers such as Chrome and Mozilla.
> 
> I contradict.
> 
> When browsers appeared, we thought of the web as what was accessible
> by them.  FTP, HTTP and Gopher were among this in the early days.
> 
> Gopher is not the web.  Yes.
> 
> HTTP is not the web!
> 
> They just are part of the web.
>

If by "the web" you mean *The Internet*, I would agree.  However, to me
"the web" means HTML browsers running HTTP.  Call me old fashioned if
you like but IMO what you call "the web" is only *part* of The Internet.

Yes, HTML browsers have supplanted many earlier protocols, embraced 
them and made them its own, but still it is only the web, just a part of
The Internet, not its entirety.


[what follows is left for context] 
> Today's big$$$-browsers converge to single protocol network file viewers
> and unluckily the smallweb browsers do too.
> 
> Let's prefer multi protocol browsers and return to all goof stuff being
> just a click away from each.
> 
> That was what the web was meant to be and we should make it exactly that
> again.
> 
> First step: Prefer writing plugins for existing browsers over creating
> more single protocol file viewers.
> 
> Writing plugins for Chawan (TUI) and Dillo (GUI) is easy.  If you can
> say that about other browsers too, let's start a list/FAQ in
> comp.infosystems (the protocol independent group please) about it.


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