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Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks

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Tony Moore  wrote on 3 Feb:

> On 3 Feb 2012, Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> wrote:
>> Tony Moore  wrote on 3 Feb:
>>
>>> Try downloading
>>> http://www.riscosopen.org/zipfiles/mods/dosfs.0.87.zip?1309194330
>>> and install it following
>>> http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/Software+informatio
>>> n:+DOSFS
>>> (For RO 4.39, predesk is at !Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk ,
>>> and the RMEnsure lines in the obey file should be changed to 0.87)
>>
>> Excellent!  Thank you.  This seems to do the trick:  I now have long
>> filenames in upper&lowercase on my USB stick.
>>
>> However, putting the new DosFS in a single user's predesk choices
>> didn't seem to me to make sense -- it should be available for all
>> users.

> Have you configured more than one user on your RiscPC? (ie via Tasks >
> Choices... > Users > Users > Enable user profiles) If not, then I
> believe that the location which I gave is correct.

>> I had a hunt through !Boot (using !Locate) and found that my old
>> version (0.67, dated 1999aug, which came with OS 4.39, I suppose) was
>> !Boot.Utils.RO4Patches.DOSFS

> RO 4.39 ROM modules includes DOSFS 0.75 (03 May 2004), so I've no idea
> why that ancient version is in RO4Patches (it is here, too).

>> -- so I moved the old one into safekeeping and put the new one into
>> that location.
>>
>> Hm, perhaps that location doesn't really make name-sense either: is
>> this really a "RO4patch"?!

> It's not. The objects in RO4Patches are controlled by its !Run file,
> which, inter alia, RMEnsures DOSFS 0.67. If DOSFS 0.75 is already
> active, from ROM, then DOSFS 0.85, if in RO4Patches, will be ignored. I
> think that you should move it back to Choices.

I did a few experiments and reboots here on OS 4.39 and observed:

  * if placed in !Boot.Utils.RO4patch, the new DosFS 0.87 is not 
loaded after a reboot.
  * if placed in !Boot.Softload, it doesn't get loaded after a reboot.
  * in !Boot.choices.default.boot.predesk it DOES get loaded.

So "Boot.choices.default.boot.predesk seems to be the best place.  
RemoteprinterFS is there already.

I don't have more than one user on my RiscPC, but am considering 
adding one.  Seems to me a module like this should be common to all 
users rather than go into the choices of an individual user.  So the 
"default" location seems logical.

Investigation also suggested !boot.utils -- a number of other modules 
live there, but apparently require explicit mention in the obeyfile 
called !boot.utils.bootrun to cause them to be loaded.  This obeyfile 
has a section called "modules we definately require" (sic).


Of course, reflashing it to the Unipod rom would be even more logical, 
since we don't want the old version that is taking up space there.  
Dave Symes mentioned !Snafu, the reflashing utility that comes with 
Unipod, but exactly how does one use it for replacing the one 
particular module that we're talking about?


-- 
Jim Nagel                        www.archivemag.co.uk
See you at SW show?   www.riscos-swshow.co.uk   Feb 25 Saturday

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MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 13:46 +0000
  Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 14:54 +0000
    Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 16:57 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Stephen Parkin <stephen@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 18:59 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 20:25 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 21:05 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 19:52 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Jim Nagel <jimnewsm10d@abbeypress.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 18:33 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 18:56 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 21:47 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Shepheard <chris.shepheard@chrispics.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 18:57 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 19:32 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-05 16:49 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-02-03 21:05 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-03 21:26 +0000
          Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-02-03 22:16 +0000
            Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2012-02-04 00:26 +0000
      MassFS and USB memory sticks Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 16:21 +0000
    Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 15:42 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-04 17:24 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-02-06 12:46 +0100
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> - 2012-02-13 11:11 +0000
    Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 15:57 +0000
      Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-05 17:33 +0000
        Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Brian Carroll <bric-nospam@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-02-06 17:48 +0000
  Re: MassFS and USB memory sticks Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-02-03 14:33 +0000

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