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In article <sd5npb$pvs$1@842ffb22-07e1-11e5-a459-00266cf00584.csiph.com>,
Kevin Bowling  <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> wrote:
>Has anyone collected the Multics source listings into a zip or tar type 
>of archive?  I find viewing 
>http://web.mit.edu/multics-history/source/Multics_Internet_Server/Multics_sources.html 
>in the browser annoying and hard to search.
>
>Kevin

Kevin,

No one else has responded, so let me see if I can help.

Please excuse me for "man-splainin'" herein, but I don't know your
background ...  Also, I'm going to simplify things here by asserting
some things that I am only assuming.

First, you could, of course, relatively easily make such a copy using,
for example, wget.

Second, I have such an archive copy, but it's on my own
(non-net-accessible) machine and not in zip/tar form (although that
would be trivial to create).

But first, some questions:

Are you sure that the MIT archive is what you want?  It's incomplete,
and the structure is painful.  (It's Multics format adapted to UNIX
format and then forced into HTTP limitations.)  I had to do a lot of
manipulation on my copy to make it useful to me, so my copy is not a
true copy.

In particular, are you aware that a group of dedicated hackers has
taken the original Multics system tapes (from which the MIT archive is
derived) and recreated a working system (almost) fully derived from
(updated) source code.  (There is source code for the entire base
system, but some optional components, such as the C compiler, are
binary only.)  Are you aware that you too could run Multics on your
local system?  Are you aware that there is a Multics running on the
net that provides guest access?

(I'm too lazy at the moment to look up where the current web site for
this is, but I'm almost positive that it's referenced on the front
page of www.multicians.org.)

I'm not aware of a web-accessible copy of that later source (it's in
its "proper" place within a running Multics system).  I do, however,
have a pieced-together copy of that source on my local system.  It's
slightly different in structure (e.g., all Multics archive files have
been replaced by a directory containing individual component files).
Also, it's the source for Multics Release 12.6f, while 12.7 is in the
final stages of being released (or might have actually been released
already).  (I'm actually running a beta version of 12.7 locally.)

I have limited options for storing files accessible on the net.  If it
would be useful to you I could investigate my storage and data
transfer limits, and possibly upload one or the other of my archives.
If somehow it's the MIT archive that is really of interest, please let
me know if the real "listings" (the files with a ".list" suffix) are
really of use to you.  The MIT archive is about 1GB and the listings
make up about half of that -- and I find them almost useless for my
purposes.

Also, is DropBox an option for you?  (I'm a member, but I'd have to
learn how to upload to it.)

 - dmw

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