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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch |
| Subject | Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z |
| Date | 2026-04-19 06:03 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <10s1r85$c4m$1@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
| References | <20260404213401.0000593a@yahoo.com> <10r5eor$b6q$1@reader1.panix.com> <10r6a2l$57g$1@gal.iecc.com> <10s1f1m$3mi35$1@dont-email.me> |
In article <10s1f1m$3mi35$1@dont-email.me>,
Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/8/26 3:25 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> According to Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net>:
>>>> Maybe he's thinking of what's known as DLL Hell, which resulted
>>> >from Microsoft's neglecting to put a version number in DLL filenames. ...
>>>
>>> Quite possibly! It's interesting to note that Linux has also
>>> suffered from similar issues, exacerbated by libraries that
>>> don't handle versioning well. Containers were the solution.
>>
>> That's kind of sad.
>>
>> ELF library names include multi-part version numbers, with the plan being that
>> if the API changes you bump the major number, while if it's a bug fix or
>> otherwise compatible you just bump the minor number.
>
>One issue with this kind of version numbering is that adding a
>feature is an API change but does not necessarily prevent
>compatibility. This expression of versioning allows users
>dependent on newer features to request the newer major version,
>but it does not allow a newer major version to be used when it
>is compatible (which might be desirable to reduce library bloat
>or just not force installation of a different version).
This is precisely the type of problem that so-called "semantic
versioning" (semver) is meant to solve: https://semver.org
It works decently well, as long as projects actually follow the
convention.
- Dan C.
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Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 20:39 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:08 +0000
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Re: Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-05 06:12 -0500
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Re: Arm to run within IBM z anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 09:56 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-05 06:17 -0500
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Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 02:56 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-04 21:11 -0700
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:34 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:04 -0700
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:30 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 12:51 +0300
Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-05 15:04 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 16:16 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:31 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 03:57 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 07:04 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 16:35 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-06 16:48 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:32 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-06 18:41 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:33 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-07 02:31 +0300
Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-07 14:41 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 02:16 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:55 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-07 05:44 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-07 07:53 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-07 14:44 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-07 19:39 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-08 11:39 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-08 19:25 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-04-08 15:48 -0500
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-08 20:54 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-09 00:07 +0300
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-09 17:51 -0400
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-10 11:47 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-11 15:09 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-11 17:53 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-11 19:20 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 21:37 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 14:49 -0700
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-11 23:37 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-12 23:03 -0400
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 12:55 -0700
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-12 20:22 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-12 20:17 +0000
Re: library confusion, Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-13 03:36 +0000
Re: library confusion, Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-13 11:27 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-15 12:22 +0100
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:51 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 14:43 +0000
Re: libraries, Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-16 01:24 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-16 00:49 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 22:35 -0400
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-19 03:04 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-04-19 00:34 -0400
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 06:03 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-04-13 09:21 -0700
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 17:21 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-04-13 18:55 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-13 20:15 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 20:20 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-04-14 04:51 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 05:54 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2026-04-14 16:23 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-13 19:56 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-15 12:22 +0100
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:53 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-15 22:28 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-08 19:48 +0000
Re: Windows, was Arm to run within IBM z Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-04-09 09:49 -0400
Re: Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-07 19:35 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-04 20:56 -0700
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-05 04:36 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 13:41 +0300
Re: Arm to run within IBM z antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 17:04 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 04:04 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-06 12:29 +0300
Re: Arm to run within IBM z quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-05 05:24 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-05 19:14 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-05 12:43 +0100
Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-05 15:12 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-06 12:21 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-06 16:46 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 02:27 -0700
Re: Arm to run within IBM z scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-09 14:49 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-06 00:35 +0000
Re: Arm to run within IBM z "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 18:41 -0700
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