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Re: Unsafe code blocks

From cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Newsgroups comp.os.vms
Subject Re: Unsafe code blocks
Date 2025-11-19 18:19 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <10fkvfr$2d2kr$1@dont-email.me>,
Arne Vajhøj  <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>On 11/19/2025 11:12 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
>> In article <10fig54$1n41a$3@dont-email.me>,
>> Arne Vajhøj  <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>> Option is in fashion in recent years.
>> 
>> Algebraic data types have been used in functional languages
>> since the 1970s, starting with the "Hope" language from
>> Edinburgh.  ML took them from Hope and popularized them, and
>> they leaked into Miranda, Haskell, and OCaml from there.  Now
>> many languages support them; even C++ (`std::optional`).
>> 
>> Hope was first described in a paper in 1980, but the work of
>> course predated that.
>> 
>> That makes them about as old as VMS, and older than Ada.  In
>> other words, they've been "In Fashion" since the 70s, which as
>> far as all things fashion goes, is a pretty good run;
>> particularly considering some of the things that were popular in
>> that decade.
>
>I would not consider Haskell, OCaml to ever have been in fashion.

In your world of business software programming?  That's probably
true.  In the world of research and systems?  Definitely not
true.

But notably, Haskell and OCaml both significantly post date SML.

>Scala 2.0 in 2006, Rust in 2012, Swift in 2014, Java 8 in 2014,
>Python 3.5 in 2015 (only type hint!), C++ 17 are more mainstream
>and more recent.

...and where do you think they got the idea from?  ;-}

	- Dan C.

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      Re: Unsafe code blocks cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-18 12:54 +0000
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          Re: Unsafe code blocks cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-20 11:54 +0000
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              Re: Unsafe code blocks cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-11-21 03:03 +0000

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