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[ Sorry for the response per email, Eli. - I'm not used to my
   new system environment, and it's not yet set up completely. ]

On 11/16/25 00:01, Eli the Bearded wrote:
 > In comp.editors, Janis Papanagnou  <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> 
wrote:
 >> In a new Linux system installation I'm presented a Vim 9 version.
 >> It seems to be completely incompatible with the various releases
 >> that I used before.
 >
 > I'm using vim 9.1.1696 today and not noticing any difference of note 
since
 > 7.x days. Clearly our usage is different.

Or I was probably just confused about the default behavior in
my clean new environment and about the error messages that I
provoked with my tries to reestablish my previous configuration.

 >
 >> When I was looking on the net for some older release I got always
 >> directed to version 9, though. (I'm obviously missing something?)
 >
 > Pick a tag, any tag:
 >
 > https://github.com/vim/vim/tags

Thanks.

 > I have not poked around much, but there seems to be every patch from 7.0
 > on as a tag.
 >
 > git clone https://github.com/vim/vim && cd vim
 > git checkout v8.2.2121
 > ./configure [ OPTIONS ] && make
 >
 >> Can someone provide a link to some Vim release where modelines and
 >> all the other things work as in former (pre-Lua or whatever) times?
 >> Some source code tar-ball would be okay. - Thanks.
 >
 > Modelines? That's a touchy subject since modelines have been subject to
 > many security patches over the years. I don't use modelines much, but
 > have not noticed a change. I think my usage is limited to setting
 > tabstops and case insensitive search in some files.

I've as well not many settings, usually less than a hand-full
of a set of about a dozen settings that I use.

I don't see (and certainly never noticed) any security issues
with those, though. But I'm anyway not using things (like script
code) beyond some elementary settings.

 >
 >> Or is there some other simple way to make Vim 9 behave like earlier
 >> versions concerning the configuration files and user settings?
 >
 > The verbose :version output will tell you the compile time
 > configuration. Here's what Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS reports for :version :
 > [...]
 >
 >> PS: How did other Vim users perceive those changes in Vim releases?
 >> (I'm just curious.)
 >
 > Like I said, I've been using vim 9 for a while and don't notice
 > differences. I prefer a mostly vi compatible vim experience, however.

Now it seems I can also continue with Vim 9. - Thanks again.

Curious about 'compatible'...
As I understand it you don't get any Vim feature with that?
So you're actually just using old "Vi" functionality? (With
Vi's old bugs fixed, I suppose.)
That's interesting. While I find that old Vi contributed most
of what's basically the actual "Vim experience", but I also
think that Vim (Bram) managed to extend it sensibly within the
"Vi philosophy". (I like a lot of Vim's features and I'm using
not all but quite some that I wouldn't want to miss.)

Janis

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Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-11-15 22:58 +0100
  Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 23:01 +0000
    Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-11-16 08:07 +0100
      Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-16 09:01 +0000
        Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-11-16 11:42 +0100
          Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 02:23 +0000
            Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 20:19 +0000
      Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2025-12-06 01:26 +0300
        Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred "Jeffrey H. Johnson" <johnsonjh.dev@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 03:15 +0000
  Re: Vim 9 - but older releases preferred John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-16 13:46 +0000

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