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| From | Marion <mariond@facts.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: Apple is paying Google $1bn to upgrade Siri with... |
| Date | 2025-11-06 14:16 -0700 |
| Organization | BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) |
| Message-ID | <10ej377$1br4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> (permalink) |
| References | <10eikr3$2vir$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <mn44fsFo5o2U2@mid.individual.net> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
David B. wrote: >> "This represents Apple's desperation to enter the AI race, especially >> with its inability to build a model comparable to Google's Gemini." > > > *EXCELLENT*! This deal marks a significant shift for Apple, which has historically emphasized building its own technology. Annual cost: Apple will pay Google roughly $1 billion per year for access to Gemini. Custom Gemini model: The version Apple is licensing has 1.2 trillion parameters, far larger than Apple's current cloud-based AI (~150 billion parameters). Siri overhaul: The upgraded Siri, expected in spring 2026, will feature improved contextual understanding, multimodal capabilities, and better planning/summarization functions. Apple's AI gap: Apple tested models from Anthropic and OpenAI, but chose Google due to cost and performance. Anthropic's offer was reportedly $1.5 billion per year. Privacy stance: Even though Google provides the model, Apple plans to run it on its Private Cloud Compute servers to maintain its privacy-first approach. By licensing Gemini, Apple acknowledges the need to catch up with competitors like Microsoft (with OpenAI) and Google (with Gemini replacing Google Assistant). The partnership could redefine Siri's role in Apple's ecosystem, making it more competitive in the AI assistant space. REFERENCES: <https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/11/05/apple-considers-paying-1b-per-year-to-use-google-gemini-in-siri> <https://9to5mac.com/2025/11/05/google-gemini-1-billion-deal-apple-siri/> <https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/apple-to-pay-google-1-billion-per-year-for-siris-custom-gemini-ai-model-report-says/> <https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-apple-google-deal-revamped-siri/> <https://techcrunch.com/2025/11/05/apple-nears-deal-to-pay-google-1b-annually-to-power-new-siri-report-says/>
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