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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.prolog |
| Subject | Its all about the money, not about quality (Was: Payed Ass-Lickers all around) |
| Date | 2025-07-09 11:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <104ldit$1vsqp$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <104ld1i$1vsct$1@solani.org> <104ld75$1vsct$2@solani.org> <104ldal$1vsct$3@solani.org> |
Hi,
In the end Scryer Prolog is a big Dunning
Kruger pyramid scheme:
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in
which people with limited competence in a particular
domain overestimate their abilities. It was first
described by the psychologists David Dunning and
Justin Kruger in 1999.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger-Effekt
Its a pyramid scheme, because its based on incompetent
people on different levels,
and its all about to grab some money:
Lisp and Prolog appear in the European
Commission's eGovernment Benchmark 2025
https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog/discussions/2994
Just nonsense, nothing else...
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> An then you have the poor guy who asked
> the question, and doesn't have a single useful
> take away. Possibly anyway a payed Ass-Licker:
>
> Thank you all for the comments!
> https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog/discussions/3004#discussioncomment-13707072
>
>
> Scryer Prolog is totalla fake nonsense.
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Well Ulrich Neumerkel is of course the biggest
>> quack of all as usual:
>>
>> > > order of clause can only influence termination properties
>> > This depends on your definition of termination. There is universal
>> > termination and (much rarer) existential termination.
>> >
>> > In a pure, monotonic program, order of clauses does not even
>> influence > universal termination. That is, a goal G_0, false will
>> terminate in
>> > the very same way regardless of the clause order. (For a goal G_0,
>> > false both universal and existential termination are the same.)
>>
>> https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog/discussions/3004#discussioncomment-13704812
>>
>>
>> Complete idiots, nothing to do with terminations. DCGs
>> that consume characters do anyway terminate. What is he talking about?
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Woa! This nonsense really made my day:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/mthom/scryer-prolog/discussions/3004
>>>
>>> It starts with, where somebody "tried" a declarative DCG
>>> using constraint logic programming:
>>>
>>> number_tail(0, 0) --> [].
>>> number_tail(Number, DigitsCount) -->
>>> ("," | ""),
>>> digit(Digit),
>>> number_tail(Digits, RestDigitsCount),
>>> {
>>> DigitsCount #= RestDigitsCount + 1,
>>> Number #= Digit * 10 ^ RestDigitsCount + Digits
>>> }.
>>>
>>> He then noticed that its not deterministic. And since
>>> it is not deterministic, clause ordering changes the
>>> result when onced via once/1.
>>>
>>> LoL
>>>
>>> If DCGs had a cut, one would any way do:
>>>
>>> number_tail(Number, DigitsCount) -->
>>> ("," | ""),
>>> digit(Digit), !,
>>> number_tail(Digits, RestDigitsCount),
>>> {
>>> DigitsCount #= RestDigitsCount + 1,
>>> Number #= Digit * 10 ^ RestDigitsCount + Digits
>>> }.
>>> number_tail(0, 0) --> [].
>>>
>>> Push the determinancy into the DCG. Otherwise you have
>>> an explosion of choice points, and a lot of things go
>>> totally wrong.
>>>
>>> But the new DCG standard has no cut (!)/2.
>>
>
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