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>>> I get it that the youngsters don't have the old machines, as they seem
>>> to expend a lot of effort recreating workalikes.

We are still in the window when building something new with dip parts and VERY inexpensive PCBs that are available out of
China makes sense, or just running a simulation on modern hardware with todays tools instead of stone knives and bearskins
makes complete sense.

> 100% agree!  I've met many clueless youngsters.  Or, even worse, those whose education consisted of web searches and YT videos.
> I call it the 'Swiss cheese effect'.  Gaping holes in their knowledge because they didn't know what questions to ask. And they come off as 
> they know what they are talking about because they simply don't know yet what they are missing. 'Poseur' is sometimes an appropriate 
> appellation.

I've spent decades building bitsavers.org so that people didn't have to go through what I had to in the 70s to learn about electronics.
Now, Chatbots and their ilk are destroying the ability to obtain reliable answers with references to the source material. I am not happy.

> I'm in the same boat.  I've collected/restored machines since the 90's and properly seeing to their disposition would be a time consuming 
> chore.
And having to vet every random trying to determine if they are just cherry-picking through everything you own to flip on eBay.
I took a truckload to VCF-W last year to find proper homes for some of my collection, and I'm not going to go through that again this year.

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Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-02 08:31 -0500
  Re: Just wondering... Josef Möllers <josef@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 16:11 +0200
    Re: Just wondering... yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-06-02 15:13 +0042
    Re: Just wondering... pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2025-06-02 15:55 +0000
      Re: Just wondering... Josef Möllers <josef@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 23:12 +0200
        Re: Just wondering... pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2025-06-04 04:37 +0000
          Re: Just wondering... Josef Möllers <josef@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:33 +0200
            Re: Just wondering... jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2025-06-21 04:19 -0400
    Re: Just wondering... Fritz <freiwiederwind1@hotmail.de> - 2025-06-05 14:15 +0200
  Re: Just wondering... pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2025-06-02 15:54 +0000
    Re: Just wondering... Captain Nemo <nemo@nowhere.org> - 2025-06-02 21:53 +0000
      Re: Just wondering... dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 18:24 +1000
      Re: Just wondering... Fritz <freiwiederwind1@hotmail.de> - 2025-06-10 10:40 +0200
        Re: Just wondering... Nick <here@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-06-12 20:55 +0100
        Re: Just wondering... jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2025-06-21 04:28 -0400
    Re: Just wondering... Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2025-06-03 11:52 -0400
  Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-02 11:38 -0500
    Re: Just wondering... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-06-02 10:37 -0700
      Re: Just wondering... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-06-02 10:38 -0700
        Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-02 15:25 -0500
        Re: Just wondering... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-06-03 00:25 +0000
      Re: Just wondering... Paul Bartlett <bartlett@panix.com> - 2025-06-02 19:14 -0400
        Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-02 23:20 -0500
        Re: Just wondering... Captain Nemo <nemo@nowhere.org> - 2025-06-03 09:30 +0000
    Re: Just wondering... David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-06-02 14:02 -0500
      Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-02 15:28 -0500
    Re: Just wondering... Captain Nemo <nemo@nowhere.org> - 2025-06-02 21:58 +0000
      Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-02 23:49 -0500
        Re: Just wondering... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-06-03 09:09 -0700
          Re: Just wondering... Nick <here@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:33 +0100
          Re: Just wondering... Ed Batalha <edbatalha@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-04 23:45 +0100
          Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-05 05:03 -0500
          Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-05 05:06 -0500
            Re: Just wondering... Captain Nemo <nemo@nowhere.org> - 2025-06-05 21:41 +0000
            Re: Just wondering... Dave McGuire <mcguire@lssmuseum.org> - 2025-06-10 09:41 -0400
              Re: Just wondering... Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 21:58 -0400
                Re: Just wondering... Dave McGuire <mcguire@lssmuseum.org> - 2025-06-17 15:59 -0400
                Re: Just wondering... Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2025-06-24 16:57 -0400
          Re: Just wondering... Nils M Holm <nmh@sraddha.invalid> - 2025-06-05 12:02 +0000
  Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-04 07:26 -0500
    Re: Just wondering... cruff@ruffspot.net (Craig Ruff) - 2025-06-05 00:25 +0000
      Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-05 05:09 -0500
  Re: Just wondering... Nick <here@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:45 +0100
    Re: Just wondering... David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-06-04 18:11 -0500
  Re: Just wondering... Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 21:54 -0400
    Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-06-17 08:29 -0500
      Re: Just wondering... ECNeilson <eric@neilsonhart.com> - 2025-07-18 21:50 -0500
        Re: Just wondering... John <john@somewhere> - 2025-07-19 01:40 -0500
          Re: Just wondering... "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-07-19 10:33 +0100
          Re: Just wondering... dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-07-20 12:00 +1000
          Re: Just wondering... Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> - 2025-07-19 23:00 -0400

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