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You can protect your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!

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#183613

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 08:26 +0100
Message-ID	<n7fnhpFthnlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183610

On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
[....]
> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
> 
> You:
>      EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>      That is *NOT* the case.
> 
> Me:
>      How is it different than other macOS apps?
[....]
>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>> files.
>>
>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
> 
> My computer does not control iCloud.

Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
"sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
rigorous vetting process.

The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.

Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
"sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
entire system rather than just their own designated folders.

Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
or backdoors.

Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
granting installation permissions.

To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.

If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by 
Apple.

=

Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.

You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted 
software. Just sayin'!

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#183614

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 07:35 +0000
Message-ID	<6a12aa2d$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183613

David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
> [....]
>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>> 
>> You:
>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>> That is *NOT* the case.
>> 
>> Me:
>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
> [....]
>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>> files.
>>> 
>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>> 
>> My computer does not control iCloud.
> 
> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
> rigorous vetting process.
> 
> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
> 
> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
> 
> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
> or backdoors.
> 
> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
> granting installation permissions.
> 
> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
> 
> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by 
> Apple.
> 
> =
> 
> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
> 
> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted 
> software. Just sayin'!
> 

Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#183617

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 08:46 +0100
Message-ID	<n7fonhFtl1hU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183614

On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> [....]
>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>
>>> You:
>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>
>>> Me:
>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>> [....]
>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>> files.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>
>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>
>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>> rigorous vetting process.
>>
>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>
>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>
>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>> or backdoors.
>>
>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>> granting installation permissions.
>>
>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>
>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>> Apple.
>>
>> =
>>
>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>
>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>> software. Just sayin'!
>>
> 
> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.


I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the 
Apple iCloud.


-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#183618

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 12:35 +0000
Message-ID	<6a12f089$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183617

David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>> [....]
>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>> 
>>>> You:
>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>> 
>>>> Me:
>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>> [....]
>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>> files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>> 
>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>> 
>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>> 
>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>> 
>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>> 
>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>> or backdoors.
>>> 
>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>> granting installation permissions.
>>> 
>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>> 
>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>> Apple.
>>> 
>>> =
>>> 
>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>> 
>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>> 
>> 
>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
> 
> 
> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the 
> Apple iCloud.
> 
> 

You are wrong. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#183619

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 13:43 +0100
Message-ID	<n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183618

On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> [....]
>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>
>>>>> You:
>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Me:
>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>> [....]
>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>
>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>
>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>
>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>
>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>
>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>
>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>
>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>
>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>> Apple.
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>
>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>
>>
>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>> Apple iCloud.
>>
>>
> 
> You are wrong.


Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users 
think>

*I DARE YOU*!

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#183620

From	Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 12:54 +0000
Message-ID	<6a12f509$0$33541$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183619

On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You:
>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>> Apple.
>>>>> 
>>>>> =
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>> Apple iCloud.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> You are wrong.
> 
> 
> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
> think>
> 
> *I DARE YOU*!

Why?

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#183623

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 14:19 +0100
Message-ID	<n7gc6tF24o0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183620

On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are wrong.
>>
>>
>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>> think>
>>
>> *I DARE YOU*!
> 
> Why?

*YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with 
the Apple iCloud.

Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.

The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if 
something is amiss.

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#183627

From	pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date	2026-05-24 13:29 +0000
Message-ID	<10uuugj$heii$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to	#183623

On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>> think>
>>>
>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>> 
>> Why?
>
> *YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with 
> the Apple iCloud.
>
> Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.
>
> The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if 
> something is amiss.

Exactly !

If this was an Apple issue rather than a snit issue, it would be all over
the Internet as data loss is about as bad as a problem can get.

Maybe there are many others with the same problem?
I doubt it though.

Once again, snit for the loss.



-- 
pothead

"Often imitated, never duplicated."

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

-- Winston Churchill

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#183629

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 13:35 +0000
Message-ID	<6a12feb3$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183627

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>> 
>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>>> think>
>>>> 
>>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>> 
>>> Why?
>> 
>> *YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with 
>> the Apple iCloud.
>> 
>> Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.
>> 
>> The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if 
>> something is amiss.
> 
> Exactly !
> 
> If this was an Apple issue rather than a snit issue, it would be all over
> the Internet as data loss is about as bad as a problem can get.
> 
> Maybe there are many others with the same problem?
> I doubt it though.
> 
> Once again, snit for the loss.
> 
> 
> 

There are others with similar issues. 

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#183634

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 13:55 +0000
Message-ID	<6a13034a$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183629

Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You are wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>>>> think>
>>>>> 
>>>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>>> 
>>>> Why?
>>> 
>>> *YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with 
>>> the Apple iCloud.
>>> 
>>> Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.
>>> 
>>> The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if 
>>> something is amiss.
>> 
>> Exactly !
>> 
>> If this was an Apple issue rather than a snit issue, it would be all over
>> the Internet as data loss is about as bad as a problem can get.
>> 
>> Maybe there are many others with the same problem?
>> I doubt it though.
>> 
>> Once again, snit for the loss.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> There are others with similar issues. 
> 

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a13030c-a050-83e8-815a-5f6c87672b9e




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#183637

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 15:15 +0100
Message-ID	<n7gffcF2l1kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183634

On 24/05/2026 14:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>>>>> think>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> *YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with
>>>> the Apple iCloud.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.
>>>>
>>>> The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if
>>>> something is amiss.
>>>
>>> Exactly !
>>>
>>> If this was an Apple issue rather than a snit issue, it would be all over
>>> the Internet as data loss is about as bad as a problem can get.
>>>
>>> Maybe there are many others with the same problem?
>>> I doubt it though.
>>>
>>> Once again, snit for the loss.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There are others with similar issues.
>>
> 
> https://chatgpt.com/share/6a13030c-a050-83e8-815a-5f6c87672b9e

They were some years ago.

That's why I wanted YOU to ask - but you refuse!

Why?

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#183641

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 14:21 +0000
Message-ID	<6a130982$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183637

David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 14:55, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You are wrong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>>>>>> think>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>> 
>>>>> *YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with
>>>>> the Apple iCloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if
>>>>> something is amiss.
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly !
>>>> 
>>>> If this was an Apple issue rather than a snit issue, it would be all over
>>>> the Internet as data loss is about as bad as a problem can get.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe there are many others with the same problem?
>>>> I doubt it though.
>>>> 
>>>> Once again, snit for the loss.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> There are others with similar issues.
>>> 
>> 
>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6a13030c-a050-83e8-815a-5f6c87672b9e
> 
> They were some years ago.
> 
> That's why I wanted YOU to ask - but you refuse!
> 
> Why?
> 

Because there is no value to it. And to explain it all would be cumbersome.
Going into the fileproverd and bird and other logs and diagnostic info
would be quite time consuming, somewhat error prone, and offer little in
the hope of anything helpful to me. Look at what we’ve seen here — you
going on about malware which is not relevant and Pothead trolling and lying
just to please the Usenet Riders. 

The best it might do would be to help someone else. That’s possible but I
didn’t track everything I’ve done with and without Apple’s help. Also would
mean sharing potentially private info which I’m not willing to do. 

Remember I don’t share your fascination with that forum. It means pretty
much nothing to me. 

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#183630

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 13:35 +0000
Message-ID	<6a12feb2$0$26$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183623

David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 13:54, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 24, 2026 at 5:43:01 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <n7ga2lF1qc7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You are wrong.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>> think>
>>> 
>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>> 
>> Why?
> 
> *YOU*, and you alone, seem to think that there is something amiss with 
> the Apple iCloud.

No. Apple tech agrees. 
> 
> Yet you can provide *NO* evidence of this.

I didn’t record my conversations with Apple tech. 

> The ASC forum membership is *HUGE* - someone there would know by now if 
> something is amiss.

There is — my iCloud account has gone bad. 



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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

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#183624

From	pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date	2026-05-24 13:21 +0000
Message-ID	<10uuu0f$h802$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to	#183619

On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You:
>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>
>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> You are wrong.
>
>
> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users 
> think>
>
> *I DARE YOU*!
>

Highly unlikely that it is due to a side loaded program. Not impossible
of course but unlikely.

What is more likely is the IT Master snit somehow managed to screw up
the sync settings.
There are many options and he probably didn't, or couldn't comprehend what
each one does. And yes, despite is ignorance, his computer does instruct
iCloud what actions to perform and how iCloud is configured.
Some people shouldn't be allowed near a computer, or anything technical.
Snit is one of those people.

Look here:

<https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-icloud-settings-on-mac-mh36817/mac>

 
 
 
 

-- 
pothead

"Often imitated, never duplicated."

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

-- Winston Churchill

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#183626

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 14:29 +0100
Message-ID	<n7gcqgF28duU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183624

On 24/05/2026 14:21, pothead wrote:
> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are wrong.
>>
>>
>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>> think>
>>
>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>
> 
> Highly unlikely that it is due to a side loaded program. Not impossible
> of course but unlikely.

How would YOU know? You don't use an Apple computer!!!
> What is more likely is the IT Master snit somehow managed to screw up
> the sync settings.
> There are many options and he probably didn't, or couldn't comprehend what
> each one does. And yes, despite is ignorance, his computer does instruct
> iCloud what actions to perform and how iCloud is configured.
> Some people shouldn't be allowed near a computer, or anything technical.
> Snit is one of those people.
> 
> Look here:
> 
> <https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-icloud-settings-on-mac-mh36817/mac>

Thank you for sharing.

I do try to help him, but he will no listen!

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#183635

From	pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date	2026-05-24 14:06 +0000
Message-ID	<10uv0m2$i1me$1@pothead.dont-email.me>
In reply to	#183626

On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 14:21, pothead wrote:
>> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>> think>
>>>
>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>>
>> 
>> Highly unlikely that it is due to a side loaded program. Not impossible
>> of course but unlikely.
>
> How would YOU know? You don't use an Apple computer!!!

That is true I don't own an Apple computer however the principle is
the same no matter the source. For example rooting an Android phone or
side loading APK files for applications not in the Google Play Store.
Same basic idea.

>> What is more likely is the IT Master snit somehow managed to screw up
>> the sync settings.
>> There are many options and he probably didn't, or couldn't comprehend what
>> each one does. And yes, despite is ignorance, his computer does instruct
>> iCloud what actions to perform and how iCloud is configured.
>> Some people shouldn't be allowed near a computer, or anything technical.
>> Snit is one of those people.
>> 
>> Look here:
>> 
>> <https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-icloud-settings-on-mac-mh36817/mac>
>
> Thank you for sharing.
>
> I do try to help him, but he will no listen!

That's because snit considers himself smarter than everyone else.
He is a loon.
Oh, and have you noticed since others have chimed in to the discussion
snit's story has morphed?
He is so predictable.
But loons like snit can be entertaining to watch.
It's the circus that never closes and it's free! 


-- 
pothead

"Often imitated, never duplicated."

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

-- Winston Churchill

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#183639

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 14:16 +0000
Message-ID	<6a130820$1$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183635

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>> On 24/05/2026 14:21, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2026-05-24, David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/2026 13:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 08:35, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2026 00:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2026 at 1:12:55 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <n7eg27Fno4sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> Not sure the relevance of any of this. So back to the question:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You:
>>>>>>>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>>>>>>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Me:
>>>>>>>>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> You, on the other hand, /may/ have installed all manner of software
>>>>>>>>>> without having any clue as to whether or not such software might damage
>>>>>>>>>> your own computer and/or those computers of others with whom you share
>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe THAT is why you are now have problems with your iCloud!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My computer does not control iCloud.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Installing Mac apps from outside the App Store (often called
>>>>>>>> "sideloading" or downloading direct from developers) carries real
>>>>>>>> cybersecurity risks, primarily because these apps bypass Apple's
>>>>>>>> rigorous vetting process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The primary dangers include:Malware & Adware: Unvetted apps can contain
>>>>>>>> hidden malicious code designed to steal personal data, hijack your
>>>>>>>> browser, or secretly use your Mac's resources for cryptocurrency mining.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lack of Sandboxing: Outside apps often do not run in isolated
>>>>>>>> "sandboxes." This means they can potentially access files across your
>>>>>>>> entire system rather than just their own designated folders.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Piracy & Tainted Software: "Cracked" or pirated software downloaded from
>>>>>>>> torrents or shady distribution sites is frequently bundled with viruses
>>>>>>>> or backdoors.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Trojans: Cybercriminals often disguise malicious payloads as legitimate
>>>>>>>> software (e.g., fake Adobe Flash or browser updates) to trick you into
>>>>>>>> granting installation permissions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To stay safe, always check the Apple Support guide on how to safely open
>>>>>>>> apps on your Mac. Rely on the official Mac App Store whenever possible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you must install software from the web, ensure you only download from
>>>>>>>> well-known, trusted developers and verify that the app is notarized by
>>>>>>>> Apple.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dustin Cook will be able to confirm that such things are *REAL*.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have no means of protecting yourself if you install non-vetted
>>>>>>>> software. Just sayin'!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nobody said they’re not real risky, just not relevant.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect that they are TOTALLY relevant to you having problems with the
>>>>>> Apple iCloud.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then raise you concern in the ASC forums and see what OTHER Apple users
>>>> think>
>>>> 
>>>> *I DARE YOU*!
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Highly unlikely that it is due to a side loaded program. Not impossible
>>> of course but unlikely.
>> 
>> How would YOU know? You don't use an Apple computer!!!
> 
> That is true I don't own an Apple computer however the principle is
> the same no matter the source. For example rooting an Android phone or
> side loading APK files for applications not in the Google Play Store.
> Same basic idea.
> 
>>> What is more likely is the IT Master snit somehow managed to screw up
>>> the sync settings.
>>> There are many options and he probably didn't, or couldn't comprehend what
>>> each one does. And yes, despite is ignorance, his computer does instruct
>>> iCloud what actions to perform and how iCloud is configured.
>>> Some people shouldn't be allowed near a computer, or anything technical.
>>> Snit is one of those people.
>>> 
>>> Look here:
>>> 
>>> <https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-icloud-settings-on-mac-mh36817/mac>
>> 
>> Thank you for sharing.
>> 
>> I do try to help him, but he will no listen!
> 
> That's because snit considers himself smarter than everyone else.
> He is a loon.
> Oh, and have you noticed since others have chimed in to the discussion
> snit's story has morphed?
> He is so predictable.
> But loons like snit can be entertaining to watch.
> It's the circus that never closes and it's free! 
> 
> 

I’m not asking for help. I’m noting that my iCloud storage on Apple’s
servers has gone corrupt  —  or more specifically the metadata and syncing
info. Apple agrees and is working to recover my data in a way that I can
retrieve. 

Much of this data is on a different computer than my main. Work one and on
old backups — but I have reorganized some and some newer data might be
lost. 

There is no debate here, nor a request for help — merely a report. 

If someone wants more info I might provide, but you’re clearly trolling and
David, with all his good intentions, is still struggling with basics such
as why deleting an app leaves files in the Library folder (as designed).
Neither of you are at a level offer help or even understanding — even if I
was asking for such. Which, again, I’m not. 

You will use this as an avenue of attack; David will go on irrelevant
tangents about malware. It is what it is. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#183642

From	"David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Date	2026-05-24 15:28 +0100
Message-ID	<n7gg8iF2pf1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#183639

On 24/05/2026 15:16, Brock McNuggets wrote:
[....]
> I’m not asking for help. I’m noting that my iCloud storage on Apple’s
> servers has gone corrupt  —  or more specifically the metadata and syncing
> info. Apple agrees and is working to recover my data in a way that I can
> retrieve.
> 
> Much of this data is on a different computer than my main. Work one and on
> old backups — but I have reorganized some and some newer data might be
> lost.
> 
> There is no debate here, nor a request for help — merely a report.
> 
> If someone wants more info I might provide, but you’re clearly trolling and
> David, with all his good intentions, is still struggling with basics such
> as why deleting an app leaves files in the Library folder (as designed).
> Neither of you are at a level offer help or even understanding — even if I
> was asking for such. Which, again, I’m not.
> 
> You will use this as an avenue of attack; David will go on irrelevant
> tangents about malware. It is what it is.


You have been hoist by your own petard, Brock!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoist_with_his_own_petard

You need to access your iCloud from either a brand new computer or from
one which has has the hard drive wiped.

I'm beginning to believe what other folk have said about you being 
incompetent. 😢

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#183645

From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 14:48 +0000
Message-ID	<6a130fd1$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183642

David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2026 15:16, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> [....]
>> I’m not asking for help. I’m noting that my iCloud storage on Apple’s
>> servers has gone corrupt  —  or more specifically the metadata and syncing
>> info. Apple agrees and is working to recover my data in a way that I can
>> retrieve.
>> 
>> Much of this data is on a different computer than my main. Work one and on
>> old backups — but I have reorganized some and some newer data might be
>> lost.
>> 
>> There is no debate here, nor a request for help — merely a report.
>> 
>> If someone wants more info I might provide, but you’re clearly trolling and
>> David, with all his good intentions, is still struggling with basics such
>> as why deleting an app leaves files in the Library folder (as designed).
>> Neither of you are at a level offer help or even understanding — even if I
>> was asking for such. Which, again, I’m not.
>> 
>> You will use this as an avenue of attack; David will go on irrelevant
>> tangents about malware. It is what it is.
> 
> 
> You have been hoist by your own petard, Brock!
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoist_with_his_own_petard
> 
> You need to access your iCloud from either a brand new computer or from
> one which has has the hard drive wiped.

That would not help. In fact, to sync Documents / Desktop from another
computer would be detrimental. Downloading from the iCloud folder fails —
please TRY to understand the issue is not local. You’re struggling with
this. 

> I'm beginning to believe what other folk have said about you being 
> incompetent. 😢
> 
You don’t even understand what I’m talking about and keep going on about
malware and local issues. None of that is relevant. Again: the primary
issue is NOT local. The closest tie MIGHT be corruption on some old data
but on suggesting that to Apple engineers they find it unlikely. 

You’re posting insults based on your own ignorance. That’s very poor form. 

Remember I’ve been working with Apple on this. While the first tier support
was mostly very disappointing (sometimes absurdly so) the current person
I’ve been working with the most — and the engineers — have been very
knowledgeable and friendly. 

They note I’ve done my due diligence and understand things well. They
describe me as being very knowledgeable and finding ways to move forward
often before they do. 

I’m not asking for help. I merely answered some questions when. I noted I’m
having iCloud issues. Pothead predictably used this as an avenue of attack.
Gremlin, Carroll, and other trolls will do the same. They will reference
this and lie about it for years. Please do not join them in such poor
behavior. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#183647

From	Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date	2026-05-24 15:13 +0000
Message-ID	<6a13157c$0$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to	#183642

On May 24, 2026 at 7:28:33 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n7gg8iF2pf1U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 24/05/2026 15:16, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> [....]
>> I’m not asking for help. I’m noting that my iCloud storage on Apple’s
>> servers has gone corrupt  —  or more specifically the metadata and syncing
>> info. Apple agrees and is working to recover my data in a way that I can
>> retrieve.
>> 
>> Much of this data is on a different computer than my main. Work one and on
>> old backups — but I have reorganized some and some newer data might be
>> lost.
>> 
>> There is no debate here, nor a request for help — merely a report.
>> 
>> If someone wants more info I might provide, but you’re clearly trolling and
>> David, with all his good intentions, is still struggling with basics such
>> as why deleting an app leaves files in the Library folder (as designed).
>> Neither of you are at a level offer help or even understanding — even if I
>> was asking for such. Which, again, I’m not.
>> 
>> You will use this as an avenue of attack; David will go on irrelevant
>> tangents about malware. It is what it is.
> 
> 
> You have been hoist by your own petard, Brock!
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoist_with_his_own_petard
> 
> You need to access your iCloud from either a brand new computer or from
> one which has has the hard drive wiped.
> 
> I'm beginning to believe what other folk have said about you being
> incompetent. 😢


Can you explain how that would tie into this terminal command:

brctl log -n 50

Having output like this (even after a full local iCloud sync system reset and
from a different computer):

----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:51:19.879-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:51:20.182-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:51:20.183-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:51:30.286-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:51:30.929-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:51:30.933-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[ERR 2026-05-14 21:57:08.467-0700] syspolicyd[506] error while getting
ubiquityIdentityToken: Error Domain=N>
[CRIT 2026-05-15 09:50:14.254-0700]
com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[4474] UNREACHABLE: invalid m>
[CRIT 2026-05-15 09:50:14.254-0700]
com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[4474] UNREACHABLE: invalid m>
[CRIT 2026-05-15 09:50:14.438-0700]
com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[4474] UNREACHABLE: invalid m>
[CRIT 2026-05-15 09:50:14.438-0700]
com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService[4474] UNREACHABLE: invalid m>
[ERR 2026-05-15 14:36:51.980-0700] suggestd[643] +[NSURL(BRAdditions)
br_documentURLFromBookmarkableString:e>
[ERR 2026-05-15 14:36:55.120-0700] duetexpertd[746] fsctl failed to resolve
docID 12098198 to file ID using >
[ERR 2026-05-15 14:36:55.125-0700] duetexpertd[746] fsctl failed to resolve
docID 12098198 to file ID using >
[ERR 2026-05-15 14:37:23.009-0700] suggestd[643] +[NSURL(BRAdditions)
br_documentURLFromBookmarkableString:e>
[ERR 2026-05-15 14:37:23.013-0700] suggestd[643] +[NSURL(BRAdditions)
br_documentURLFromBookmarkableString:e>
[ERR 2026-05-16 23:03:33.880-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-16 23:03:34.376-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 00:37:51.052-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 00:37:51.649-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 02:36:17.080-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 02:36:17.397-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 03:36:17.853-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 03:36:18.279-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 04:36:48.998-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 04:36:49.403-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 05:38:18.782-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 05:38:19.242-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:02:04.558-0700] revisiond[397] Failed to initialize library
for device 1000011, path <pri>
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:48.982-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 12076491 to file>
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:48.982-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 9075894 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:48.987-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 7190118 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:48.987-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 6447066 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:48.987-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 6123251 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:48.987-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 6123250 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:53.138-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 9075894 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:53.139-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 12076491 to file>
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:53.141-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 6123250 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:53.141-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 6447066 to file >
[ERR 2026-05-17 06:45:53.141-0700] ScopedBookmarkAgent[39024] fsctl failed to
resolve docID 6123251 to file >

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