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| Started by | Steve <hamrun@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-03-22 08:21 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-03-24 13:54 +1300 |
| Articles | 11 on this page of 91 — 20 participants |
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Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Steve <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 08:21 -0700
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-03-22 15:52 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2017-03-22 21:05 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-22 17:10 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 16:37 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-23 12:52 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2017-03-22 21:11 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Steve <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 14:21 -0700
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2017-03-26 08:58 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Krzysztof Staniorowski <nospam@ksx4system.net> - 2017-04-15 02:29 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-15 07:41 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-04-15 19:10 +1200
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-15 09:31 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 12:10 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-15 18:21 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 15:09 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-16 17:39 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-16 13:42 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-16 22:57 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-16 19:22 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 09:13 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 09:32 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 22:55 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 18:09 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 23:52 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 20:39 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-17 09:16 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 09:32 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 22:57 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 18:09 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-04-17 10:11 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-04-17 19:40 +0200
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-04-17 20:17 +0200
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-04-17 20:19 +0200
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-17 23:53 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:28 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-18 14:19 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0200
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-18 16:22 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-19 10:53 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-19 11:14 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Sara Merriman <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 12:48 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 08:47 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 08:47 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-20 08:35 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 10:22 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 14:51 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 11:57 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-20 21:00 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:20 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 20:07 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:20 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 20:51 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 17:15 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 21:36 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 17:43 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2017-04-21 12:49 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:13 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim Hodgson) - 2017-04-21 17:28 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 12:34 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim Hodgson) - 2017-04-21 17:51 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 13:25 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-04-21 19:18 +0200
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2017-04-22 11:31 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 19:56 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-24 10:31 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-24 17:36 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-24 13:00 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-24 18:13 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-24 13:33 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:03 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 12:57 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-25 22:34 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:02 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2017-04-25 16:32 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-25 16:35 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 12:57 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-25 20:25 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 16:06 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2017-04-27 03:39 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-27 09:35 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2017-04-27 23:20 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 13:52 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-20 20:59 +0100
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 12:10 -0400
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 16:35 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-23 10:14 +1300
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 16:39 +0000
Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-24 13:54 +1300
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 16:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <250420171606460300%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #117415 |
In article <em9m4pFct1gU1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Old technology but fully functional? Sounds like it should be replaced > >>> immediately! > >> > >> I completely agree. > > > > i'd like to replace thoth, but unfortunately, there is nothing to > > replace it with. the alternatives are anywhere from a little worse to > > completely unusable. > > > > writing a usenet client is not profitable so there are very limited > > options and they all suck in one way or another. > > Was a joke - I actually totally disagree and am posting from an > obsolete one myself. Other end of the spectrum from Thoth though - > Unison 1.x is a usenet-with-trainer-wheels on, which is actually kind > of how I like it, and it is long since dead. Panic used to write it, > then they moved to 2.x which I didn't like so much, and then they > dumped that too. they dumped it because they couldn't make any money from it. initially they even offered their own news server to go with unison. > You're right - sadly not much happening in newsreaders. There was a > promising one called Pineapple a few years back, but I heard nothing > for quite a while. <http://www.platinumball.net/pineapple/news/macosx/>
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| From | RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-27 03:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <odrleq$k7k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #117411 |
On 25/04/2017 17:57, nospam wrote: > In article <em98m9Fa449U1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall > <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: > >> >>> Old technology but fully functional? Sounds like it should be replaced >>> immediately! >> >> I completely agree. > > i'd like to replace thoth, but unfortunately, there is nothing to > replace it with. the alternatives are anywhere from a little worse to > completely unusable. > > writing a usenet client is not profitable so there are very limited > options and they all suck in one way or another. > OOI, what's wrong with Thunderbird? I use it for email and usenet on a Mac, and find it pretty usable, once a few filter and mark-read plugins have been added. Mind, I've not much to compare it with - Unison, and I did use Outlook Express many years back. -- Cheers, Rob
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| From | Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> |
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| Date | 2017-04-27 09:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <emdor3F6fupU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #117449 |
On 2017-04-27 02:39:20 +0000, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> said: > On 25/04/2017 17:57, nospam wrote: >> In article <em98m9Fa449U1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall >> <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: >> >>> >>>> Old technology but fully functional? Sounds like it should be replaced >>>> immediately! >>> >>> I completely agree. >> >> i'd like to replace thoth, but unfortunately, there is nothing to >> replace it with. the alternatives are anywhere from a little worse to >> completely unusable. >> >> writing a usenet client is not profitable so there are very limited >> options and they all suck in one way or another. >> > > OOI, what's wrong with Thunderbird? I use it for email and usenet on a > Mac, and find it pretty usable, once a few filter and mark-read plugins > have been added. > > Mind, I've not much to compare it with - Unison, and I did use Outlook > Express many years back. I remember Forte Agent under Windows being my favourite, but is so long ago now I honestly can't remember why. I used to use Pan for a while as well, but eventually the X-Windows-instead-of-native-Mac drove me away. Cheers, Ian -- Check out Proto the album: <http://studioicm.com/proto/>
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| From | Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> |
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| Date | 2017-04-27 23:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kcr4gcl4iu1fn1udr9v5k669qbpsaa1cdf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #117454 |
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:35:50 +0100, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: >I remember Forte Agent under Windows being my favourite, but is so long >ago now I honestly can't remember why. Because you can drive it with the space bar and n (for 'next unread message with body') if you're feeling fancy, spacebar alone if you set it up right. I still use it - I have a Windows VM for it in Parallels, because although it's fairly amenable to being WINEd the font rendering is horrible then. I have been using it for about 20 years now, and no longer remember how to configure it. Fortunately, like OSX user accounts, you can just pull the whole Agent app/data forward from one machine to the next. So when the underlying Windows mashes itself you can just make a fresh one and drop your backed-up Agent into it. Cheers - Jaimie -- Actually, the Singularity seems rather useful in the entire work avoidance field. "I _could_ write up that report now but if I put it off, I may well become a weakly godlike entity, at which point not only will I be able to type faster but my comments will be more on-target." - James Nicoll
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| From | Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-04-27 13:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <odspc1$q1f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #117449 |
On 27/04/2017 03:39, RJH wrote: > On 25/04/2017 17:57, nospam wrote: >> In article <em98m9Fa449U1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall >> <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: >> >>> >>>> Old technology but fully functional? Sounds like it should be replaced >>>> immediately! >>> >>> I completely agree. >> >> i'd like to replace thoth, but unfortunately, there is nothing to >> replace it with. the alternatives are anywhere from a little worse to >> completely unusable. >> >> writing a usenet client is not profitable so there are very limited >> options and they all suck in one way or another. >> > > OOI, what's wrong with Thunderbird? I use it for email and usenet on a > Mac, and find it pretty usable, once a few filter and mark-read plugins > have been added. > Works fine for me, though I admit I'm an undemanding user. -- Graeme Wall This account not read.
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| From | David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-20 20:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Lp6dnZ87qIuqjmTFnZ2dnUU78d_NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #117269 |
On 20/04/2017 15:22, nospam wrote: > In article <elr6mrFhf8qU1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall > <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: > >>> >>>> From memory, in the Jobs biography they talk about his disappointment >>>> with the CD-ROM. The answer wasn't really an Apple thing, it was that >>>> burners weren't available in large numbers in slot form, and Jobs >>>> insisted on having a slot not a tray loader. >>> >>> except that the first imac had a tray loader so the availability of >>> slot load burners was not an issue >> >> >> https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=6e4cDvhrKhgC&pg=PA356&lpg=PA356&dq=steve+j >> obs+slot+loading+cd+imac&source=bl&ots=ckySBeS4aa&sig=KbP2YyOEsx0i0GoS9u7XrFc6 >> niA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8mNjv3rHTAhXOUlAKHcHfAQUQ6AEITjAG#v=onepage&q=steve >> %20jobs%20slot%20loading%20cd%20imac&f=false > > links need to be delimited with <> and that link already expired. > Worked just fine. -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-15 12:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150420171210317956%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #117137 |
In article <eldtlcFucs0U1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: > > > I wonder if hype was at the same level back when Apple threw USB-only > > equipped G3s on the market. > > Oh it definitely was, but it was a little different. No-one was saying > that the USB connector was limiting, they were instead saying that the > lack of floppy drive was a mistake. How were users going to transport > files to each other? there were a few vocal whiners about the floppy but most people had no issue whatsoever. you can't please everyone. for the few who needed a floppy, there were third party options. why force everyone to pay for something they would not be using? > So yeah, a little different because at least the connectors were > standard. It wasn't USB only either - still had ethernet, RJ-45, > err....-think- that one had Firewire too? Not sure. But yeah - not "USB > only" so much as "we believe floppies are dead and people should switch > to using the network or USB keys to transfer files'. That was the fuss. had apple included a cd burner rather than just a cd rom drive there would have been almost no fuss.
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| From | Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 16:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <230320171635544260%hamrun@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #116617 |
In article <ejfkt6Fm4scU1@mid.individual.net>, Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> wrote: > > I've been looking for *short* cables that go from Lightning to micro > > and mini USB and also similar cables for USB-c. No success though. > > > > I find it hard to believe they don't exist. Anyone know of any? Ideally > > less than 6" > > Amazon Basics? I have a couple - one lightning, one ye olde 30 pin: > <https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-Apple-Certified-Lightning-Cable/dp/B010U3XA0I> Thanks. USB-A unfortunately. -- Cheers, Steve
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 10:14 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1n3c053.1orep6vjeokpbN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #116616 |
Steve <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been looking for *short* cables that go from Lightning to micro and mini > USB Do you mean a micro/mini USB plug or socket? Lightning to micro/mini USB plug doesn't make sense because that is connecting a peripheral to a peripheral. Ignoring special cases like on-the-go, USB cables are host to peripheral. An iOS device is not a host unless you use Apple's camera adapter, which has a standard USB-A socket on it. Lightning to micro/mini USB socket could be used to power an iOS device, or connect to a host (computer) with a standard USB cable. Apple makes a lightning to micro USB adapter for that purpose, which is about 10 mm long (not counting the lightning plug). > and also similar cables for USB-c. No success though. USB-C makes slightly more sense because it can be used on both hosts and peripherals. A lightning to USB-C cable can connect to a host which has a USB-C socket. It wouldn't work with a peripheral that has a USB-C socket, for the same reason as above - the iOS device is not a USB host. > I find it hard to believe they don't exist. Anyone know of any? Ideally > less than 6" What are you trying to connect to the iOS device? -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-23 16:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <230320171639216709%hamrun@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #116622 |
In article <1n3c053.1orep6vjeokpbN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > > I've been looking for *short* cables that go from Lightning to micro and > > mini > > USB > > Do you mean a micro/mini USB plug or socket? > > Lightning to micro/mini USB plug doesn't make sense because that is > connecting a peripheral to a peripheral. Ignoring special cases like > on-the-go, USB cables are host to peripheral. An iOS device is not a > host unless you use Apple's camera adapter, which has a standard USB-A > socket on it. > > Lightning to micro/mini USB socket could be used to power an iOS device, > or connect to a host (computer) with a standard USB cable. Apple makes a > lightning to micro USB adapter for that purpose, which is about 10 mm > long (not counting the lightning plug). > > > and also similar cables for USB-c. No success though. > > USB-C makes slightly more sense because it can be used on both hosts and > peripherals. A lightning to USB-C cable can connect to a host which has > a USB-C socket. It wouldn't work with a peripheral that has a USB-C > socket, for the same reason as above - the iOS device is not a USB host. > > > I find it hard to believe they don't exist. Anyone know of any? Ideally > > less than 6" > > What are you trying to connect to the iOS device? Trying to connect an external DAC to the Lightning port on iOS or the USB-C port on a MBP while keeping cable lengths 'wieldy' (if that is a word). -- Cheers, Steve
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2017-03-24 13:54 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1n3e7xa.1q1u120i7zh12N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #116628 |
Steve Hodgson <hamrun@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <1n3c053.1orep6vjeokpbN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson > <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > > > > I've been looking for *short* cables that go from Lightning to micro and > > > mini > > > USB > > > > Do you mean a micro/mini USB plug or socket? > > > > Lightning to micro/mini USB plug doesn't make sense because that is > > connecting a peripheral to a peripheral. Ignoring special cases like > > on-the-go, USB cables are host to peripheral. An iOS device is not a > > host unless you use Apple's camera adapter, which has a standard USB-A > > socket on it. > > > > Lightning to micro/mini USB socket could be used to power an iOS device, > > or connect to a host (computer) with a standard USB cable. Apple makes a > > lightning to micro USB adapter for that purpose, which is about 10 mm > > long (not counting the lightning plug). > > > > > and also similar cables for USB-c. No success though. > > > > USB-C makes slightly more sense because it can be used on both hosts and > > peripherals. A lightning to USB-C cable can connect to a host which has > > a USB-C socket. It wouldn't work with a peripheral that has a USB-C > > socket, for the same reason as above - the iOS device is not a USB host. > > > > > I find it hard to believe they don't exist. Anyone know of any? Ideally > > > less than 6" > > > > What are you trying to connect to the iOS device? > > Trying to connect an external DAC to the Lightning port on iOS or the > USB-C port on a MBP while keeping cable lengths 'wieldy' (if that is a > word). If your DAC has mini-USB or micro-USB as its only input options, it isn't going to be able to plug into the lightning port via a single cable, because the iOS device is not a USB host. A DAC like that _might_ work with an iOS device via the Apple USB camera adapter, which presents a USB-A socket, so you use a standard USB-A to mini/micro-USB cable. http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MD821ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MK0W2ZM/A/lightning-to-usb-3-camera-adapter Whether your particular DAC works depends on whether it is recognised by iOS, and how much power it wants to draw from the USB host. iOS devices are seriously limited in how much power they can provide. The USB 3 camera adapter has an advantage here because it has a lightning socket which can be used to power the iOS device at the same time, and in my testing this allows the use of at least some USB peripherals that need more power. (Note that the extra speed of the USB 3 adapter is usually a moot point - so far, only the 12.9-inch iPad Pro has the extra pins in its lightning socket which allow USB 3 superspeed.) To avoid the extra adapter you need a DAC which supports iOS: it must specify that it is "Made for iPod/iPhone/iPad" with the standard logo, and it would have an integrated cable with lightning plug, or a USB-A/C socket to connect to the iOS device, or a proprietary socket and cable with lightning plug. Here are a couple of examples: http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/one-dac This uses a proprietary connector and supplied cable so no chance of a shorter cable. http://www.oppodigital.com/headphone-amplifier-ha-2SE/headphone-amplifier-HA-2SE-Overview.aspx This one uses USB-A to connect to an iOS device, so there is the option of a shorter USB-A to lightning cable. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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