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Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables
Date 2017-04-16 19:22 -0400
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References (6 earlier) <ele439F1381U1@mid.individual.net> <150420171210327994%nospam@nospam.invalid> <1n4l4nn.1vfr7b9w291vkN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk> <160420171342216420%nospam@nospam.invalid> <_oednWaKAdx1dW7FnZ2dnUU78KednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

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In article <_oednWaKAdx1dW7FnZ2dnUU78KednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, David
Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:

> >>> the outrage was from ignorant people who *thought* the mac needed a
> >>> floppy to upgrade its bios or emergency boot disk.
> >>
> >> That isn't what I remember.
> >>
> >> What I recall is that the complaints were about what people felt was the
> >> removal of the most common and convenient way of exchanging files.
> >
> > they might have thought that, but filesharing was easier and faster,
> > particularly when the files couldn't fit on a 1.4 meg floppy, which was
> > often.
> 
> Compressed and segmented files

neither is convenient, particular the latter.

> > the mistake apple made was not including a cd *burner* instead of a
> > cdrom drive (they did do that later on). that would have eliminated
> > most of the complaints. 650 meg was a *lot* in 1998.
> >
> >> I don't ever recall hearing about BIOS or boot disks.
> >
> > pc users said that because back then, a pc *had* to have a floppy drive
> > in case something went wrong with the boot drive, so they just assumed
> > a mac also needed a floppy to deal with similar situations. it didn't.
> >
> Well, you don't get too many PC user view points in a mac group do you. 

i didn't say it did. 

> And, 
> as far as PC [Widoze] users back then were concerned, if it was Apple then it 
> was automatically crap.

it still is for a lot of people. 

the point is that one of flaws pc users kept parroting was the imac
didn't have a floppy, oblivious to the fact it didn't actually matter
anywhere near as much as they thought it did.

today, you hear 'no dvd drive', except that many pcs no longer ship
with dvd drives either.

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Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Krzysztof Staniorowski <nospam@ksx4system.net> - 2017-04-15 02:29 +0000
  Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-15 07:41 +0100
    Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-04-15 19:10 +1200
      Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-15 09:31 +0100
        Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 12:10 -0400
          Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-15 18:21 +0100
            Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 15:09 -0400
          Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-16 17:39 +0100
            Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-16 13:42 -0400
              Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-16 22:57 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-16 19:22 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 09:13 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 09:32 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 22:55 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 18:09 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 23:52 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 20:39 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-17 09:16 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 09:32 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-17 22:57 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 18:09 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-04-17 10:11 +0100
              Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-04-17 19:40 +0200
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-04-17 20:17 +0200
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-04-17 20:19 +0200
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-17 23:53 +0000
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 14:36 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 17:28 +0000
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-18 14:19 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-04-18 21:55 +0200
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-18 16:22 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-19 10:53 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-19 11:14 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Sara Merriman <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 12:48 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 08:47 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 08:47 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-20 08:35 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 10:22 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 14:51 +0000
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 11:57 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-20 21:00 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:20 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 20:07 +0000
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 16:20 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 20:51 +0000
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 17:15 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2017-04-20 21:36 +0000
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-20 17:43 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2017-04-21 12:49 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:13 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim Hodgson) - 2017-04-21 17:28 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 12:34 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim Hodgson) - 2017-04-21 17:51 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 13:25 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2017-04-21 19:18 +0200
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2017-04-22 11:31 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 19:56 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-24 08:48 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-24 10:31 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-24 17:36 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-24 13:00 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-24 18:13 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-24 13:33 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:03 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 12:57 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) - 2017-04-25 22:34 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:02 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) - 2017-04-25 16:32 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-25 16:35 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 12:57 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-25 20:25 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 16:06 -0400
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2017-04-27 03:39 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2017-04-27 09:35 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2017-04-27 23:20 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 13:52 +0100
                Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-04-20 20:59 +0100
    Re: Short Lightning and USB mini/micro cables nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 12:10 -0400

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