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  Is this group still active? Andrew Hatchett <agh3rd@gmail.com> - 2022-09-16 14:52 -0700
    Re: Is this group still active? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2022-09-17 03:22 +0000
    Re: Is this group still active? Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2022-09-19 12:52 -0500
    Re: Is this group still active? Ian Goddard <ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> - 2022-09-20 14:55 +0100
      Re: Is this group still active? Dennis <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2022-09-20 10:11 -0400
        Re: Is this group still active? Ian Goddard <ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> - 2022-09-21 11:51 +0100
          Card program Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2022-10-03 13:52 +0200
            Re: Card program Ian Goddard <ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> - 2022-10-07 14:16 +0100
      Re: Is this group still active? Tony Proctor <tony@proctor_NoMore_SPAM.net> - 2022-09-24 13:33 +0100
        Re: Is this group still active? Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2022-09-24 15:40 +0000
          Re: Is this group still active? Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2022-09-24 15:08 -0500
        Re: Is this group still active? Tony Proctor <tony@proctor_NoMore_SPAM.net> - 2022-09-27 09:10 +0100
          Re: Is this group still active? Martin B <martinburnell@gmail.com> - 2022-10-03 10:16 -0700
      Re: Is this group still active? Tony Proctor <tony@proctor_NoMore_SPAM.net> - 2022-09-24 13:35 +0100

#6553 — Is this group still active?

Trying to clean  up my Groups

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#6554

On 2022-09-16, Andrew Hatchett <agh3rd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trying to clean  up my Groups

Best of luck cleaning up your groups.  It has been rather quiet
here the past couple/few years.  I think your post is the first
one I have seen in at least a couple of months.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#6555

On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 14:52:33 -0700 (PDT)
Andrew Hatchett <agh3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> Trying to clean  up my Groups

I don't think many groups are active any more but I keep them around
just in case. 

Of course, you can always start a thread and see where it goes.

-- 
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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#6556

On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote:
> Trying to clean  up my Groups
> 
Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here?

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#6557

On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 14:55:21 +0100, Ian Goddard
<ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:

>On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote:
>> Trying to clean  up my Groups
>> 
>Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here?

For example?

-- 

Dennis

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#6558

On 20/09/2022 15:11, Dennis wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022 14:55:21 +0100, Ian Goddard
> <ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote:
>>> Trying to clean  up my Groups
>>>
>> Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here?
> 
> For example?
> 

I have writtem for my own use, a program inspired by the old Windows 
cardfile,exe.  It can file text, tabular and image cards.

All can be created by pasting from the clipboard and all can be reading 
files: .txt, .csv and various image formats such as .jpg & .png.  Any 
individual card can also be saved to a file of appropriate format.  It 
doesn't support mixed type of data on a single card but cards of 
different types can be mixed freely.

Text and tabular cards can also be created blank for manual data entry.

The saved format for a collection of files is text, any images being 
saved in base64.  A saved file can be merged into the current file.

An extension also attempts to simplify entering text from PDFs with an 
OCR layer.  These notoriously have lines of original texxt fragments. 
This will simply join t paragraph's worth of fragments back into a 
single paragraph - it won't deal with misread characters or fragments 
which hav got out of order.

It's developed in Lazarus/Free Pascal. Although it's developed on Linux 
Lazarus is available for Windows & Macs as well.

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#6564 — Card program

On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:51:40 +0100, Ian Goddard
<ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:

>I have writtem for my own use, a program inspired by the old Windows 
>cardfile,exe.  It can file text, tabular and image cards.
>
>All can be created by pasting from the clipboard and all can be reading 
>files: .txt, .csv and various image formats such as .jpg & .png.  Any 
>individual card can also be saved to a file of appropriate format.  It 
>doesn't support mixed type of data on a single card but cards of 
>different types can be mixed freely.
>
>Text and tabular cards can also be created blank for manual data entry.

Can it print output on to cards?

There were a couple of programs available for older versions of PAF
that could do that, but they probably won't work with modern printers.


-- 
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
     http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
     

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#6566 — Re: Card program

On 03/10/2022 12:52, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 11:51:40 +0100, Ian Goddard
> <ian_ng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> I have writtem for my own use, a program inspired by the old Windows
>> cardfile,exe.  It can file text, tabular and image cards.
>>
>> All can be created by pasting from the clipboard and all can be reading
>> files: .txt, .csv and various image formats such as .jpg & .png.  Any
>> individual card can also be saved to a file of appropriate format.  It
>> doesn't support mixed type of data on a single card but cards of
>> different types can be mixed freely.
>>
>> Text and tabular cards can also be created blank for manual data entry.
> 
> Can it print output on to cards?
> 
> There were a couple of programs available for older versions of PAF
> that could do that, but they probably won't work with modern printers.
> 
> 
The presentation is card-index like but the data it it presents can be 
arbitrarily long text as well as tabular data and images.  There would 
be no guarantee that the data could be fitted onto a card format.  As it 
stands I haven't added a print function as that wasn't it's purpose

Having said that the program is modular with the intention that custom 
card formats can be added so it wouldn't be impossible to change than. 
In fact I had reading the vcard format ( 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VCard ) in mind as a possible extra.  I 
wonder if anyone has considered adapting vcard as a genealogical record 
format.

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#6559

On 20/09/2022 14:55, Ian Goddard wrote:
> On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote:
>> Trying to clean  up my Groups
>>
> Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here?

I always considered these groups to be Q&A, but I have published several items of free genealogical software, the most sophisticated being SVG-FTH 
(https://parallaxviewpoint.com/SVG-FTG/), designed to produce a graphical depiction of your tree for the Web (using SVG), but also allow interaction 
with your tree and the addition of custom functionality.

Although I have since left the world of public genealogy, this is still supported because I use it myself.  :-)

Tony

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#6561

On 24 Sep 2022 in soc.genealogy.computing, Tony Proctor wrote:

> I always considered these groups to be Q&A, but I have published
> several items of free genealogical software, the most sophisticated
> being SVG-FTH (https://parallaxviewpoint.com/SVG-FTG/), designed to
> produce a graphical depiction of your tree for the Web (using SVG),
> but also allow interaction with your tree and the addition of custom
> functionality. 

Thanks! That looks interesting. Having moved server a couple of years 
back (!), I want to get my tree back up, and I still haven't found a 
really adequate means to do so.

-- 
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.org/
Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

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#6562

On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 15:40:53 -0000 (UTC)
Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 24 Sep 2022 in soc.genealogy.computing, Tony Proctor wrote:
> 
> > I always considered these groups to be Q&A, but I have published
> > several items of free genealogical software, the most sophisticated
> > being SVG-FTH (https://parallaxviewpoint.com/SVG-FTG/), designed to
> > produce a graphical depiction of your tree for the Web (using SVG),
> > but also allow interaction with your tree and the addition of custom
> > functionality.   
> 
> Thanks! That looks interesting. Having moved server a couple of years 
> back (!), I want to get my tree back up, and I still haven't found a 
> really adequate means to do so.
> 

Have you looked at the TNG genealogy software?


https://tngsitebuilding.com/

You can see a sample of it working with my tree with 10,000+
individuals.

https://family.sysadmininc.com



-- 
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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#6563

On 24/09/2022 13:33, Tony Proctor wrote:
> On 20/09/2022 14:55, Ian Goddard wrote:
>> On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote:
>>> Trying to clean  up my Groups
>>>
>> Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here?
> 
> I always considered these groups to be Q&A, but I have published several items of free genealogical software, the most sophisticated being SVG-FTH 
> (https://parallaxviewpoint.com/SVG-FTG/), designed to produce a graphical depiction of your tree for the Web (using SVG), but also allow interaction 
> with your tree and the addition of custom functionality.
> 
> Although I have since left the world of public genealogy, this is still supported because I use it myself.  :-)
> 
> Tony

In view of other software being mentioned here, I'll just add a few differentiators for SVG-FTG which may, or may not, be something specifically of 
interest:

1) It's free but with lots of documentation and instructional videos
2) It can run online or offline
3) Files can be emailed to a recipient if internet privacy is required
5) Recipients do not require a subscription to any external site
5) It is extremely customisable, allowing functionality to be added to buttons on people/families

I had very specific requirements when I wrote this, but I appreciate that many people will want a product that just gives them all their options 
straight out of the box, and that's great; I understand.

Tony

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#6565

On Tuesday, 27 September 2022 at 09:10:35 UTC+1, Tony Proctor wrote:
> On 24/09/2022 13:33, Tony Proctor wrote: 
> > On 20/09/2022 14:55, Ian Goddard wrote: 
> >> On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote: 
> >>> Trying to clean  up my Groups 
> >>> 
> >> Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here? 
> > 
> > I always considered these groups to be Q&A, but I have published several items of free genealogical software, the most sophisticated being SVG-FTH 
> > (https://parallaxviewpoint.com/SVG-FTG/), designed to produce a graphical depiction of your tree for the Web (using SVG), but also allow interaction 
> > with your tree and the addition of custom functionality. 
> > 
> > Although I have since left the world of public genealogy, this is still supported because I use it myself.  :-) 
> > 
> > Tony
> In view of other software being mentioned here, I'll just add a few differentiators for SVG-FTG which may, or may not, be something specifically of 
> interest: 
> 
> 1) It's free but with lots of documentation and instructional videos 
> 2) It can run online or offline 
> 3) Files can be emailed to a recipient if internet privacy is required 
> 5) Recipients do not require a subscription to any external site 
> 5) It is extremely customisable, allowing functionality to be added to buttons on people/families 
> 
> I had very specific requirements when I wrote this, but I appreciate that many people will want a product that just gives them all their options 
> straight out of the box, and that's great; I understand. 
> 
> Tony

SVG-FTG looks very interesting and I intend to take a more detailed look at it. Topola Viewer - https://pewu.github.io/topola-viewer/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtvqVBhCVARIsAFUxcRsfh1IreaVO3QSke-6Ycy_MFtar2qOBo0E69Q6i_jNgo2RL4hs2nxUaArltEALw_wcB#/ does something similar but I am not enough of a programmer to use the code directly in my website - instead I embed the Topola Viewer webpage - see https://www.burnelluk.info/topola.html
An alternative to TNG is the open source Webtrees (fork of PHPGedView) which has an interactive chart - see https://burnelluk.info/burnelltree/index.php?route=%2Fburnelltree%2Fmodule%2Ftree%2FChart%2FTree&xref=I5

Martin

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#6560

On 20/09/2022 14:55, Ian Goddard wrote:
> On 16/09/2022 22:52, Andrew Hatchett wrote:
>> Trying to clean  up my Groups
>>
> Does anyone have thoughts about posting useful source code here?

I always considered these groups to be Q&A, but I have published several items of free genealogical software, the most sophisticated being SVG-FTH 
(https://parallaxviewpoint.com/SVG-FTG/), designed to produce a graphical depiction of your tree for the Web (using SVG), but also allow interaction 
with your tree and the addition of custom functionality.

Although I have since left the world of public genealogy, this is still supported because I use it myself.  :-)

Tony

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