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| From | Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.stat.math |
| Subject | Re: Q multi-comparison and deLong test |
| Date | 2023-08-08 19:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ofk5dithebthd7uejm4tkcp2g3vdc0m0n7@4ax.com> (permalink) |
| References | <5fd8debf-63fd-4716-ae25-5ee82290477dn@googlegroups.com> |
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Cosine <asecant@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi: > > When doing multi-comparison we need to do the correction for the > potential increase of the type I error, e.g., the Bonferroni > correction. Could we avoid doing this correction by using the deLong > test since this method is somehow conservative for comparing multiple > pairs of the area under the curve? The deLong test is a test for ROC curves, which is NOT a circumstance where Bonferroni correction would be appropriate. Looking for the deLong test, I found this article by Frank Harrell. On a quick read, I take it as a bit of a tough read. It recommends 'Other' -- The link has the full article. (Harrell is reliable. Years ago, I promoted his comments on the hazards of using stepwise regression, and they have been much cited since then.) https://www.fharrell.com/post/addvalue/ After two paragraphs of introduction, it says, Statisticians have no better sense of history than other scientists. In the quest for publishing new ideas, measures of added value are constantly being invented by statisticians, without asking whether older methods already solve the problem at hand. Some of the examples of measures that are commonly used but are not needed in this setting are the -index (F. E. Harrell et al. (1982); area under the ROC curve if the outcome is binary), and IDI and NRI. They are not needed because measures based on standard regression methods are not only adequate to the task, but are more powerful and more flexible and insightful, -- Rich Ulrich
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Q multi-comparison and deLong test Cosine <asecant@gmail.com> - 2023-08-08 07:56 -0700 Re: Q multi-comparison and deLong test Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2023-08-08 19:51 -0400
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