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| Started by | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| First post | 2025-01-28 01:36 +0100 |
| Last post | 2025-02-08 11:45 -0600 |
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Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-28 01:36 +0100
Europe has no AI, you sure? (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-28 01:43 +0100
Happy Chinese New Year! (Re: Europe has no AI, you sure?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-28 02:13 +0100
Re: Happy Chinese New Year! (Re: Europe has no AI, you sure?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 19:31 -0600
Re: the asteroid that kills tech dinosaurs (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-31 12:48 -0600
Re: the asteroid that kills tech dinosaurs (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-31 12:51 -0600
DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons (Was: the asteroid that kills tech dinosaurs) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-31 23:40 +0100
Where is bilinear? (Was: DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-01 00:09 +0100
Re: DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons (Was: the asteroid that kills tech dinosaurs) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-31 22:43 -0600
How To Uninstall your Dooms Day Brain (Was: DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-01 17:31 +0100
Re: How To Uninstall your Dooms Day Brain (Was: DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-01 11:04 -0600
Re: How To Uninstall your Dooms Day Brain (Was: DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-01 11:12 -0600
Re: How To Uninstall your Dooms Day Brain (Was: DeepSex for Dooms Day Morons) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-02 14:50 +0100
choice of a foreign functional currency (Was: How To Uninstall your Dooms Day Brain) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-02 14:55 +0100
Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull (Was: choice of a foreign functional currency) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-02 14:59 +0100
Re: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull (Was: choice of a foreign functional currency) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-02 15:05 +0100
Radical universalism and artificial intelligence (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-04 11:19 +0100
Trump farts smell like mumies: Sweet and spicy (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-18 20:59 +0100
Re: Trump farts smell like mumies: Sweet and spicy (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 16:31 -0600
Re: Trump farts smell like mumies: Sweet and spicy bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-02-19 10:51 +0000
Re: Trump farts smell like mumies: Sweet and spicy (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:31 -0600
A phone call to Mars in 2050 (Was: Trump farts smell like mumies: Sweet and spicy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-19 22:07 +0100
The Baby Pill problem solved by Putin (Was: A phone call to Mars in 2050) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-20 13:11 +0100
Bitcoin sinking call the FBI (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-25 16:24 +0100
Re: Bitcoin sinking call the FBI (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:13 -0600
Re: Bitcoin sinking call the FBI hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-02-25 21:32 +0000
Re: Bitcoin sinking call the FBI Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:51 -0600
China doesn't have some BTC (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-08 11:03 +0100
BTC net is restructuring over time (Was: China doesn't have some BTC) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-08 11:11 +0100
Crooks will offload BTC to the state (Re: BTC net is restructuring over time) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-08 11:21 +0100
Bitcoin says thank you! (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-29 00:15 +0100
Re: Bitcoin says thank you! (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 18:35 -0500
Re: Bitcoin says thank you! (Was: Bitcoin crashing again / Gradual rug pull) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 12:58 -0500
greenland is garbage / iceland would be swell (Was: Bitcoin says thank you!) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-31 12:11 +0200
Not only $TSLA is on fire sale! [The Decline of Prolog] (Re: How To Uninstall your Dooms Day Brain) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-14 13:42 +0100
Some modern heros of DeepSeek (Re: the asteroid that kills tech dinosaurs) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-31 23:57 +0100
Chinas secret weapon pulverizes Mira Murati (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-02 16:37 +0100
Re: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 15:15 -0600
I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-04 23:31 +0100
Corr.: now -> new (Was: I never post boring schooling) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-04 23:33 +0100
Group Morons and the American Dream (Was: Corr.: now -> new) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-04 23:44 +0100
Re: Group Morons and the American Dream (Was: Corr.: now -> new) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-04 23:51 +0100
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 17:03 -0600
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 17:14 -0600
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:09 +0100
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:23 -0600
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:25 +0100
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:41 -0600
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:45 +0100
Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:55 -0600
you can suck my cock (Was: I never post boring schooling) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 00:14 +0100
Re: you can suck my cock (Was: I never post boring schooling) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:12 -0600
physics was interesting 100 years ago (Was: you can suck my cock) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:21 +0100
Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:24 +0100
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:44 -0600
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:46 +0100
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:47 +0100
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:54 -0600
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:56 +0100
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:52 -0600
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:57 +0100
Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:02 -0600
Can I be your newbie (Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:04 +0100
Should I go into a Library and make a Hardcopy (Was: Can I be your newbie) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:06 +0100
I have very bad news for you (Was: Should I go into a Library and make a Hardcopy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:09 +0100
Re: I have very bad news for you (Was: Should I go into a Library and make a Hardcopy) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:18 -0600
Re: Should I go into a Library and make a Hardcopy (Was: Can I be your newbie) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:15 -0600
You are harassing me (Was: Should I go into a Library and make a Hardcopy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:16 +0100
DeepSex for AI Newbies (Re: You are harassing me) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:18 +0100
Shitstorms where Shitstorms belong (Was: DeepSex for AI Newbies) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:19 +0100
How To Uninstall a nagging Flaming (Was: Shitstorms where Shitstorms belong) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:21 +0100
its your fault (Was: How To Uninstall a nagging Flaming) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:23 +0100
Re: You are harassing me (Was: Should I go into a Library and make a Hardcopy) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:25 -0600
You only got what you deserve (Was: You are harassing me) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:28 +0100
Easy formula (Was: You only got what you deserve) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:30 +0100
Re: Easy formula (Was: You only got what you deserve) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:34 -0600
Re: physics was interesting 100 years ago (Was: you can suck my cock) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:38 -0600
Re: physics was interesting 100 years ago (Was: you can suck my cock) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:43 +0100
Re: physics was interesting 100 years ago (Was: you can suck my cock) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:50 -0600
Feel the Dark side of the Force (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:56 +0100
Re: Feel the Dark side of the Force (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 18:58 -0600
Can I be your newbie (Was: Feel the Dark side of the Force) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:59 +0100
Re: Can I be your newbie (Was: Feel the Dark side of the Force) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:00 +0100
Re: Can I be your newbie (Was: Feel the Dark side of the Force) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:03 +0100
Re: Can I be your newbie (Was: Feel the Dark side of the Force) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:12 -0600
Re: Can I be your newbie (Was: Feel the Dark side of the Force) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:08 -0600
Re: Can I be your newbie (Was: Feel the Dark side of the Force) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-04 19:06 -0600
Mother Theresa or Darth Vader? (Was: Can I be your newbie) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 02:15 +0100
Newbies that work for Elon can never leave the sect (Was: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:05 +0100
Re: Newbies that work for Elon can never leave the sect (Was: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 01:08 +0100
Re: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals (Re: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 10:08 -0600
Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 17:21 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:09 -0600
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:15 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:16 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:19 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:25 -0600
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:26 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:35 -0600
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:36 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:38 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:48 -0600
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:29 -0600
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:31 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-08 18:33 +0100
Re: Fuckfick physfitfreak@gmail.com sucks (Was: Machine Learning discovers Roman Numerals) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 11:45 -0600
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 23:44 +0100 |
| Subject | Group Morons and the American Dream (Was: Corr.: now -> new) |
| Message-ID | <vnu58r$vb1u$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891113 |
Hi, The biggest group morons are those that dream that they can profit by relocating from their own group of people, to a group of american people, and then cry when their assets get frozen or who knows what happens. The papers I posted are about automatically tuning into groups: > Group Preference Optimization > https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11523 > > DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits > https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300 Its actually quite amazing how machine learning can utilize group identification to customize how a conversational software agent interacts. Currently I think is a variant of fine tuning, but on a different model level that is called policy. The first paper has a figure with the following groups: - Hindu - Jewish - Liberal - Asian Have Fun! Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > Typo: now -> new > > > to generate now thinking > > Should read: > > > to generate new thinking > > I shit and piss on some asslicking group > that cannot think on his own. Thank god > USENET has only rarely such group morons. > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> You wouldn't notic that I speak for myself >> always and ever. Just remove the links and >> you see its all text original by me. >> >> I always post geniun commentary to current >> events which are solely the product of my >> own mind. I do not intend to educate something. >> >> My intention is to document my current >> understanding and to generate now thinking. >> If you have expected some schooling, I am very >> >> sorry for you. I never post boring schooling. >> >> Bye >> >> ---------------- cut here ----------------- >> >> Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning >> via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China) >> has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with >> >> new strategies to evolve brains on the computer. >> Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization. >> This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react >> >> differently to different groups of people. It seems to >> work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet >> completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use >> >> multiple policies automatically: >> >> Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath, >> what is possibly detected is not group of people, but >> mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells. >> >> When unsupervised learning is used groups or math >> topics might be found from data, through a form of >> abduction. >> >> ---------------- cut here ----------------- >> >> >> Physfitfreak schrieb: >>> On 2/4/25 3:06 AM, Mild Shock wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning >>>> via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China) >>>> has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with >>>> >>>> new strategies to evolve brains on the computer. >>>> Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization. >>>> This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react >>>> >>>> differently to different groups of people. It seems to >>>> work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet >>>> completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use >>>> >>>> multiple policies automatically: >>>> >>>> Group Preference Optimization >>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11523 >>>> >>>> DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits >>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300 >>>> >>>> Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath, >>>> what is possibly detected is not group of people, but >>>> mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells. >>>> >>>> When unsupervised learning is used groups or math >>>> topics might be found from data, through a form of >>>> abduction. >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> >>>> Mild Shock schrieb: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Wait till USA figures out there is a second >>>>> competitor besides DeepSeek, its called Yi-Lightning: >>>>> >>>>> Yi-Lightning Technical Report >>>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.01253 >>>>> >>>>> It was already discussed 2 months ago: >>>>> >>>>> Eric Schmidt DROPS BOMBSHELL: China DOMINATES AI! >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWuEUjo4u4 >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although better than nothing, >>> it still is an extremely inefficient way to communicate. >>> >>> Speak, yourself, in the way that a first year undergraduate prof >>> explains stuff to the students who just a few months earlier finished >>> their high schooling. >>> >>> Then you will communicate. >>> >>> If it is too difficult to do that (cause requires deep understanding >>> of the subject by yourself), or, if you don't get time doing all >>> that, then break the job down into little pieces. A day at a time, or >>> a week at a time. >>> >>> You'd be spending the same amount of time as you are now, and yet you >>> will actually communicate something with those with physics background. >>> >>> Did I have to say this? I don't think so. But your intentions here >>> are vague. But if you need support for your own gains in >>> understanding the subject, you just have to do it the way I explained >>> above. Then you will get that support. Not from Bozos and >>> "engineers", but from me and anybody with actual physics background >>> and such trainings. >>> >>> There are a few actual physicists in relativity group that can join >>> in, but only if you do it the way I explained above. >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 23:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Group Morons and the American Dream (Was: Corr.: now -> new) |
| Message-ID | <vnu5lo$vb6h$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891113 |
Hi For DeepSeekMath I imagine the group concept: > - Hindu > - Jewish > - Liberal > - Asian Transfers to groups such as: - Calculus - Group Theory - Number Theory - Probability Theory Got it? Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > The biggest group morons are those that > dream that they can profit by relocating > from their own group of people, > > to a group of american people, and then > cry when their assets get frozen or who > knows what happens. The papers I posted > > are about automatically tuning into groups: > > > Group Preference Optimization > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11523 > > > > DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits > > https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300 > > Its actually quite amazing how machine > learning can utilize group identification > to customize how a conversational software > > agent interacts. Currently I think is a > variant of fine tuning, but on a different > model level that is called policy. The first > > paper has a figure with the following groups: > > - Hindu > - Jewish > - Liberal > - Asian > > Have Fun! > > Bye > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> Typo: now -> new >> >> > to generate now thinking >> >> Should read: >> >> > to generate new thinking >> >> I shit and piss on some asslicking group >> that cannot think on his own. Thank god >> USENET has only rarely such group morons. >> >> Bye >> >> Mild Shock schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> You wouldn't notic that I speak for myself >>> always and ever. Just remove the links and >>> you see its all text original by me. >>> >>> I always post geniun commentary to current >>> events which are solely the product of my >>> own mind. I do not intend to educate something. >>> >>> My intention is to document my current >>> understanding and to generate now thinking. >>> If you have expected some schooling, I am very >>> >>> sorry for you. I never post boring schooling. >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> ---------------- cut here ----------------- >>> >>> Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning >>> via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China) >>> has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with >>> >>> new strategies to evolve brains on the computer. >>> Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization. >>> This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react >>> >>> differently to different groups of people. It seems to >>> work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet >>> completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use >>> >>> multiple policies automatically: >>> >>> Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath, >>> what is possibly detected is not group of people, but >>> mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells. >>> >>> When unsupervised learning is used groups or math >>> topics might be found from data, through a form of >>> abduction. >>> >>> ---------------- cut here ----------------- >>> >>> >>> Physfitfreak schrieb: >>>> On 2/4/25 3:06 AM, Mild Shock wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning >>>>> via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China) >>>>> has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with >>>>> >>>>> new strategies to evolve brains on the computer. >>>>> Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization. >>>>> This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react >>>>> >>>>> differently to different groups of people. It seems to >>>>> work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet >>>>> completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use >>>>> >>>>> multiple policies automatically: >>>>> >>>>> Group Preference Optimization >>>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11523 >>>>> >>>>> DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits >>>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300 >>>>> >>>>> Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath, >>>>> what is possibly detected is not group of people, but >>>>> mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells. >>>>> >>>>> When unsupervised learning is used groups or math >>>>> topics might be found from data, through a form of >>>>> abduction. >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> >>>>> Mild Shock schrieb: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Wait till USA figures out there is a second >>>>>> competitor besides DeepSeek, its called Yi-Lightning: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yi-Lightning Technical Report >>>>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.01253 >>>>>> >>>>>> It was already discussed 2 months ago: >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Schmidt DROPS BOMBSHELL: China DOMINATES AI! >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWuEUjo4u4 >>>>>> >>>>>> Bye >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although better than nothing, >>>> it still is an extremely inefficient way to communicate. >>>> >>>> Speak, yourself, in the way that a first year undergraduate prof >>>> explains stuff to the students who just a few months earlier >>>> finished their high schooling. >>>> >>>> Then you will communicate. >>>> >>>> If it is too difficult to do that (cause requires deep understanding >>>> of the subject by yourself), or, if you don't get time doing all >>>> that, then break the job down into little pieces. A day at a time, >>>> or a week at a time. >>>> >>>> You'd be spending the same amount of time as you are now, and yet >>>> you will actually communicate something with those with physics >>>> background. >>>> >>>> Did I have to say this? I don't think so. But your intentions here >>>> are vague. But if you need support for your own gains in >>>> understanding the subject, you just have to do it the way I >>>> explained above. Then you will get that support. Not from Bozos and >>>> "engineers", but from me and anybody with actual physics background >>>> and such trainings. >>>> >>>> There are a few actual physicists in relativity group that can join >>>> in, but only if you do it the way I explained above. >> >
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 17:03 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnu6b9$v8qb$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891112 |
On 2/4/25 4:31 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > Hi, > > You wouldn't notic that I speak for myself > always and ever. Just remove the links and > you see its all text original by me. > > I always post geniun commentary to current > events which are solely the product of my > own mind. I do not intend to educate something. > > My intention is to document my current > understanding and to generate now thinking. > If you have expected some schooling, I am very > > sorry for you. I never post boring schooling. > > Bye Ok. Let me see if I can conclude something from what you said. You always go to a coffee shop or restaurant alone, and while drinking your coffee or after finishing your dinner, you begin thinking about the subjects you post here. Or perhaps reading some as well. Is this correct? Who doesn't want to communicate stuff he is trying to learn, with others with physics background? Who doesn't feel that need? You must be an "engineer" then. "Engineers" always make that mistake about people with physics background. Because they do not know _hoot_ what a person with physics background is. It would be like a kitchen cook trying to have conversation with a nutrition scientist. It doesn't happen.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 17:14 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnu704$v8qb$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891117 |
On 2/4/25 5:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: > It would be like a kitchen cook trying to have conversation with a > nutrition scientist. It doesn't happen. Without getting paid,that it. A cook wants to do his thing with cooking and get paid for it. That's all. A physicist, on the other hand, is willing to spend time, sometimes a great deal of time, explaining stuff to newbies in the first semester of the first year of their undergraduate school. He can do that because it isn't the money that runs him, like cooks and "engineers" and other types of servants who're only doing it for money. It is the subject itself that he loves to teach and at the same time, be taught, to and by the students. _Any_subject, buddy! .. If you don't understand this, this talk is over.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:09 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnua6t$vdk4$3@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891118 |
Did you just use the word "newbie"? Good Luck Clown! Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 5:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >> It would be like a kitchen cook trying to have conversation with a >> nutrition scientist. It doesn't happen. > > > Without getting paid,that it. A cook wants to do his thing with cooking > and get paid for it. That's all. > > A physicist, on the other hand, is willing to spend time, sometimes a > great deal of time, explaining stuff to newbies in the first semester of > the first year of their undergraduate school. > > He can do that because it isn't the money that runs him, like cooks and > "engineers" and other types of servants who're only doing it for money. > It is the subject itself that he loves to teach and at the same time, be > taught, to and by the students. _Any_subject, buddy! .. > > If you don't understand this, this talk is over.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:23 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnub22$ubmk$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891122 |
On 2/4/25 6:09 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > Did you just use the word "newbie"? > > Good Luck Clown! See, you're dumb too. By "newbie" I meant students and in this case people here with physics background, not you. I was assuming you're the teacher, we're the newbies.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:25 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnub5m$ve7c$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891125 |
Whats your idee fix with schooling. Are you demented or what? Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 6:09 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> Did you just use the word "newbie"? >> >> Good Luck Clown! > > > See, you're dumb too. By "newbie" I meant students and in this case > people here with physics background, not you. I was assuming you're the > teacher, we're the newbies. > >
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:41 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnuc30$ubmk$4@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891127 |
On 2/4/25 6:25 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > > Whats your idee fix with schooling. > Are you demented or what? What's your fear of that? Are you a fraudulent thicko? :)
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:45 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnucao$vepr$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891129 |
You started the red herring of ad hominem. I only responded with another ad hominem. But it doesn't add anything to the discussion. Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 6:25 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> >> Whats your idee fix with schooling. >> Are you demented or what? > > > What's your fear of that? Are you a fraudulent thicko? :)
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:55 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: I never post boring schooling (Was: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha) |
| Message-ID | <vnucub$ubmk$9@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891132 |
On 2/4/25 6:45 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > > You started the red herring of ad hominem. > I only responded with another ad hominem. > > But it doesn't add anything to the discussion. Discussion is over. I got what I wanted. You're a fraud and I called all your bluffs. So go spend your time "discussing" matters with another Ross Finlayson like yourself.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 00:14 +0100 |
| Subject | you can suck my cock (Was: I never post boring schooling) |
| Message-ID | <vnu70u$vc36$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891117 |
Hi, I already told you you can suck my cock: > I shit and piss on some asslicking group > that cannot think on his own. Thank god > USENET has only rarely such group morons. But you are extremly slow thinking... Bye Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 4:31 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> Hi, >> >> You wouldn't notic that I speak for myself >> always and ever. Just remove the links and >> you see its all text original by me. >> >> I always post geniun commentary to current >> events which are solely the product of my >> own mind. I do not intend to educate something. >> >> My intention is to document my current >> understanding and to generate now thinking. >> If you have expected some schooling, I am very >> >> sorry for you. I never post boring schooling. >> >> Bye > > > Ok. Let me see if I can conclude something from what you said. > > You always go to a coffee shop or restaurant alone, and while drinking > your coffee or after finishing your dinner, you begin thinking about the > subjects you post here. Or perhaps reading some as well. > > Is this correct? > > Who doesn't want to communicate stuff he is trying to learn, with others > with physics background? Who doesn't feel that need? > > You must be an "engineer" then. "Engineers" always make that mistake > about people with physics background. Because they do not know _hoot_ > what a person with physics background is. > > It would be like a kitchen cook trying to have conversation with a > nutrition scientist. It doesn't happen. > > > >
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:12 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: you can suck my cock (Was: I never post boring schooling) |
| Message-ID | <vnuae6$ubmk$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891119 |
On 2/4/25 5:14 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > Hi, > > I already told you you can suck my cock: Huh.., ok, so you're a fraud. Do not throw papers at us here! I don't believe you understand them. My asking you to be more genuine and open about learning those stuff scared you enough to react like ... yes, like a fraud :) You think you can fool me? Not only that, almost anything about you is deranged, down to how you form your paragraphs. You're probably a sick poppy. You've probably been here under other aliases, and each time I kicked your sick ass hard. Solution for you: Post your blabber to the relativity group only; somebody there might believe that you actually know something. Cause here I'll call your bluff.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:21 +0100 |
| Subject | physics was interesting 100 years ago (Was: you can suck my cock) |
| Message-ID | <vnuato$ve1t$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891123 |
Hi, I only post in sci.physics because some peer had the idea that machine learning doesn't work based on theories of physics, like entropy, thermodynamics, ... so whats going on in machine learning from a physical point of view? Normaly I mainly post in sci.logic. I have a deep detest of physics, I only passed my highschool physic because it involved math, but the physics teacher didn't notice, he even used me when an inspector came into the school, to demonstate that he has good pupils. I played the game although I don't believe that physics has a lot to offer. It was interesting 100 years ago. Bye P.S.: Physics has a little revival in some AI related fields like genrative AI. You might find ideas like wave function collapes, but its quite different from the models that try to match nature. AI mostly uses adaptation and inspiration from physics, not physics itself. Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 5:14 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I already told you you can suck my cock: > > > Huh.., ok, so you're a fraud. > > Do not throw papers at us here! I don't believe you understand them. > > My asking you to be more genuine and open about learning those stuff > scared you enough to react like ... yes, like a fraud :) You think you > can fool me? > > Not only that, almost anything about you is deranged, down to how you > form your paragraphs. You're probably a sick poppy. You've probably been > here under other aliases, and each time I kicked your sick ass hard. > > Solution for you: Post your blabber to the relativity group only; > somebody there might believe that you actually know something. Cause > here I'll call your bluff. > > > > > >
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:24 +0100 |
| Subject | Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnub3q$ve7c$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891124 |
Hi, But obviously readers of sci.physics like Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> are stupid as fuck. Cannot relate AI to physics. Expect me to do some schooling. Whats wrong? Maybe a statistical outlier, I remember people were more smart on USENET. Or a general trend that we are converging to Idiocracy: Idiocracy Electrolytes 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMHfBobgLSI Now USA has a budget crisis, and Elon Musk bought the governement? LoL Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > I only post in sci.physics because some > peer had the idea that machine learning doesn't > work based on theories of physics, like > > entropy, thermodynamics, ... so whats going > on in machine learning from a physical point > of view? Normaly I mainly post in sci.logic. > > I have a deep detest of physics, I only passed > my highschool physic because it involved math, > but the physics teacher didn't notice, > > he even used me when an inspector came into > the school, to demonstate that he has good > pupils. I played the game although I don't > > believe that physics has a lot to offer. > It was interesting 100 years ago. > > Bye > > P.S.: Physics has a little revival in some > AI related fields like genrative AI. You might > find ideas like wave function collapes, > > but its quite different from the models that > try to match nature. AI mostly uses adaptation > and inspiration from physics, not physics itself. > > Physfitfreak schrieb: >> On 2/4/25 5:14 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I already told you you can suck my cock: >> >> >> Huh.., ok, so you're a fraud. >> >> Do not throw papers at us here! I don't believe you understand them. >> >> My asking you to be more genuine and open about learning those stuff >> scared you enough to react like ... yes, like a fraud :) You think you >> can fool me? >> >> Not only that, almost anything about you is deranged, down to how you >> form your paragraphs. You're probably a sick poppy. You've probably >> been here under other aliases, and each time I kicked your sick ass hard. >> >> Solution for you: Post your blabber to the relativity group only; >> somebody there might believe that you actually know something. Cause >> here I'll call your bluff. >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:44 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnuc8s$ubmk$5@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891126 |
On 2/4/25 6:24 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > i, > > But obviously readers of sci.physics like > Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> are stupid > as fuck. Cannot relate AI to physics. Did you try that and didn't see I could relate? No. You just packed and ran away as soon as I came forward to discuss it with you. You're a fraud.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:46 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnuccr$vepr$3@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891131 |
Proof that you cannot relate is here: > Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although > better than nothing, it still is an extremely > inefficient way to communicate. I think papers are extremly efficent. What do you expect me to read the paper for you? Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 6:24 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> i, >> >> But obviously readers of sci.physics like >> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> are stupid >> as fuck. Cannot relate AI to physics. > > > Did you try that and didn't see I could relate? No. You just packed and > ran away as soon as I came forward to discuss it with you. You're a fraud.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:47 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnucee$vepr$4@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891133 |
This is my last ad hominem. But you make it really easy for me: You are a moron that cannot read (papers). Mild Shock schrieb: > Proof that you cannot relate is here: > > > Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although > > better than nothing, it still is an extremely > > inefficient way to communicate. > > I think papers are extremly efficent. What do > you expect me to read the paper for you? > > Physfitfreak schrieb: >> On 2/4/25 6:24 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >>> i, >>> >>> But obviously readers of sci.physics like >>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> are stupid >>> as fuck. Cannot relate AI to physics. >> >> >> Did you try that and didn't see I could relate? No. You just packed >> and ran away as soon as I came forward to discuss it with you. You're >> a fraud. >
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:54 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnucrd$ubmk$8@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891134 |
On 2/4/25 6:47 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > > This is my last ad hominem. But > you make it really easy for me: > > You are a moron that cannot read (papers). Newbies aren't morons. You are.
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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2025-02-05 01:56 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnud0q$vf56$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891137 |
You can call me what ever you want. fraud, fraudulent thicko, fucked up mind Just late the hate flow through you. Feel the Dark side of the Force: The Dark Side Of The Force Is A Pathway To Many Abilities Some Consider To Be Unnatural https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqcSXt1CQOQ It is quite entertaining, to say the least... Physfitfreak schrieb: > On 2/4/25 6:47 PM, Mild Shock wrote: >> >> This is my last ad hominem. But >> you make it really easy for me: >> >> You are a moron that cannot read (papers). > > > Newbies aren't morons. You are.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-04 18:52 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Elon Musk bought the governement? (Was: physics was interesting 100 years ago) |
| Message-ID | <vnuco8$ubmk$7@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #891133 |
On 2/4/25 6:46 PM, Mild Shock wrote: > > > Proof that you cannot relate is here: > > > Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although > > better than nothing, it still is an extremely > > inefficient way to communicate. > > I think papers are extremly efficent. What do > you expect me to read the paper for you? Only a fraud throws papers at "newbies." I've called your bluff. Live with it now.
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