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  Re: Trump is in bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 03:05 +0000
    Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-21 16:56 +0100
      Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 16:56 +0000
        Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-01-21 17:44 +0000
          Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 03:16 +0000
            Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2025-01-22 03:34 +0000
              Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 04:32 +0000
        From Incandescent bulbs to LEDs (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-21 21:27 +0100
          Re: From Incandescent bulbs to LEDs (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 19:38 -0600
      Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 12:39 -0600
        Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-21 21:01 +0100
          Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 19:34 -0600
            Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 11:21 +0100
              Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 11:28 +0100
                The Zurich Axioms (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 11:41 +0100
                Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 11:22 -0600
                  „Pecunia-non-olet" (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 19:05 +0100
                    Never store value in money (Was: „Pecunia-non-olet") Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 19:16 +0100
                      The value of Artificial Intelligence IP [intellectual property] (Was: Never store value in money) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 19:27 +0100
                    Re: „Pecunia-non-olet" (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 15:19 -0600
                      Where is your Bitcoin is your Saviour story? Re: „Pecunia-non-olet" (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-22 22:43 +0100
                        Re: Where is your Bitcoin is your Saviour story? Re: „Pecunia-non-olet" (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 16:54 -0600
                  Fear and Greed Index (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-06 00:46 +0100
                    It was refused it in the past [Bitcoin] (Was: Fear and Greed Index) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-06 11:14 +0100
                      bite the hand that feeds you (Was: It was refused it in the past [Bitcoin]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-06 13:01 +0100
                    USA ETFs are eyeing altcoins (Was: Fear and Greed Index) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-10 16:25 +0100
                      Re: USA ETFs are eyeing altcoins (Was: Fear and Greed Index) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-11 10:47 -0600
      Comparison energy consumption and protocol speed (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-21 21:33 +0100
        Difficult to estimate when it Crashes (Was: Comparison energy consumption and protocol speed) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-21 21:45 +0100
      One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-27 14:12 +0100
        Re: One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 19:17 -0600
          What about safe AI? (Was: One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-28 02:25 +0100
            Re: What about safe AI? (Was: One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 19:38 -0600
              Re: What about safe AI? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-31 15:56 +0000
        Putin doesn't want to meet fartmaster Trump (Was: One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-18 18:24 +0100
          Re: Putin doesn't want to meet fartmaster Trump (Was: One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 12:20 -0600
      Global Markets playout Feudalistic President (Was: One week Trump and Wallstreet is Panicing) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-27 15:09 +0100
      How to persuade Woman to smoke? (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 17:23 +0100
        What about Status Quo? (Re: How to persuade Woman to smoke?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-05 17:28 +0100
          Re: What about Status Quo? (Re: How to persuade Woman to smoke?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-05 12:10 -0600
        #BoycottUSA eat more Cordon Bleu (Re: How to persuade Woman to smoke?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-13 10:35 +0100
          Re: #BoycottUSA eat more Cordon Bleu (Re: How to persuade Woman to smoke?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 12:20 -0500
            Re: #BoycottUSA eat more Cordon Bleu (Re: How to persuade Woman to smoke?) % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 10:53 -0700
    New Trump Memes [Suicide Hotline] (Was: Trump is in) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-02 17:00 +0100

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#890794 — Re: Trump is in

On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:27:30 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:

> El Presidente Trumpo, wannabe saviour of the US, full of delectable gas
> at any rate, has regained his power and position.
>
> As Arindam had long predicted; just as he had predicted Putin's success.
> Simply put, there cannot be really good humans in power in democracies.
> So Trump must be labelled as fascist. God be with them and their strict
> absolute ways, with no slimy relativistic hanky -panky.
>
> Unfortunately he does not think that Trump will have the guts to support
> him and thus boot out the bunkum Einsteinian physics.
> He hopes to be wrong in this...

Let us see. We shall follow Trump's career with considerable interest.
>
> Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
>
> Bertietaylor

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#890801 — Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

Hi,

Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:

Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548

But when will it happen, how fast and what
will be the ripples? This year, next year or

in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.

Bye

Bertietaylor schrieb:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:27:30 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:
> 
>> El Presidente Trumpo, wannabe saviour of the US, full of delectable gas
>> at any rate, has regained his power and position.
>>
>> As Arindam had long predicted; just as he had predicted Putin's success.
>> Simply put, there cannot be really good humans in power in democracies.
>> So Trump must be labelled as fascist. God be with them and their strict
>> absolute ways, with no slimy relativistic hanky -panky.
>>
>> Unfortunately he does not think that Trump will have the guts to support
>> him and thus boot out the bunkum Einsteinian physics.
>> He hopes to be wrong in this...
> 
> Let us see. We shall follow Trump's career with considerable interest.
>>
>> Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
>>
>> Bertietaylor

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#890803 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin

On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:56:39 +0000, Mild Shock wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:

Ponzi scheme.
>
> Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
> https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548
>
> But when will it happen, how fast and what
> will be the ripples? This year, next year or
>
> in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
> Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.
>
> Bye
>
> Bertietaylor schrieb:
>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:27:30 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:
>>
>>> El Presidente Trumpo, wannabe saviour of the US, full of delectable gas
>>> at any rate, has regained his power and position.
>>>
>>> As Arindam had long predicted; just as he had predicted Putin's success.
>>> Simply put, there cannot be really good humans in power in democracies.
>>> So Trump must be labelled as fascist. God be with them and their strict
>>> absolute ways, with no slimy relativistic hanky -panky.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately he does not think that Trump will have the guts to support
>>> him and thus boot out the bunkum Einsteinian physics.
>>> He hopes to be wrong in this...
>>
>> Let us see. We shall follow Trump's career with considerable interest.
>>>
>>> Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
>>>
>>> Bertietaylor

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#890804 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin

XO Order:

"Sciences that are not aligned with American interests and in many cases
antithetical to American values," and "serve to destabilize Science,
Technology and Engineering efforts that made America great, by promoting
ideas that are directly inverse to harmonious and stable evolution of
knowledge that serves to advance civilization and the welfare of human
beings are going immediately to be defunded from any means provided by
the federal government".

"In particular, many of them will be named as pseudosciences, in
particular everything concerning the use of relativity based projects
for earthly or outer space experiments that have not provided any
relevant contribution to society, and that were based on public or
private founds, only to sustain iconic names, censor critics and
blacklist individuals not aligned with the ideas of such
pseudosciences".

"I'll mandate the creation of a new American Scientific Committee, which
will be in charge of analyzing the evolution of STE in the last 50
years, how their results were used to enhance society and civilized
values and any trace of indoctrination through MSM, publishing houses
and academia".

"We'll provide the means for suppressed voices in STE to find a place to
communicate ideas and proposals, without the barrier of paywalls to
profit from STE with no other basis than greed and discrimination".

"Results from the new ASC will be made available to the public in at
least two levels: professional and STE communications, to allow anyone
to access to such information".

"We'll recover the spirit that allowed mankind to progress in such
substantial areas that conform STE, and will encourage youth to follow
careers in such relevant areas of knowledge, being proven that such
careers will contribute to the advancement of civilization, as it
happened for centuries".

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#890818 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin

On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:44:53 +0000, rhertz wrote:

> XO Order:
>
> "Sciences that are not aligned with American interests and in many cases
> antithetical to American values," and "serve to destabilize Science,
> Technology and Engineering efforts that made America great, by promoting
> ideas that are directly inverse to harmonious and stable evolution of
> knowledge that serves to advance civilization and the welfare of human
> beings are going immediately to be defunded from any means provided by
> the federal government".
>
> "In particular, many of them will be named as pseudosciences, in
> particular everything concerning the use of relativity based projects
> for earthly or outer space experiments that have not provided any
> relevant contribution to society, and that were based on public or
> private founds, only to sustain iconic names, censor critics and
> blacklist individuals not aligned with the ideas of such
> pseudosciences".
>
> "I'll mandate the creation of a new American Scientific Committee, which
> will be in charge of analyzing the evolution of STE in the last 50
> years, how their results were used to enhance society and civilized
> values and any trace of indoctrination through MSM, publishing houses
> and academia".
>
> "We'll provide the means for suppressed voices in STE to find a place to
> communicate ideas and proposals, without the barrier of paywalls to
> profit from STE with no other basis than greed and discrimination".
>
> "Results from the new ASC will be made available to the public in at
> least two levels: professional and STE communications, to allow anyone
> to access to such information".
>
> "We'll recover the spirit that allowed mankind to progress in such
> substantial areas that conform STE, and will encourage youth to follow
> careers in such relevant areas of knowledge, being proven that such
> careers will contribute to the advancement of civilization, as it
> happened for centuries".


Wonderful!

Wood woof woof-woof woof

Bertietaylor

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#890820 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 3:16:57 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:44:53 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
>> XO Order:
>>
>> "Sciences that are not aligned with American interests and in many cases
>> antithetical to American values," and "serve to destabilize Science,
>> Technology and Engineering efforts that made America great, by promoting
>> ideas that are directly inverse to harmonious and stable evolution of
>> knowledge that serves to advance civilization and the welfare of human
>> beings are going immediately to be defunded from any means provided by
>> the federal government".
>>
>> "In particular, many of them will be named as pseudosciences, in
>> particular everything concerning the use of relativity based projects
>> for earthly or outer space experiments that have not provided any
>> relevant contribution to society, and that were based on public or
>> private founds, only to sustain iconic names, censor critics and
>> blacklist individuals not aligned with the ideas of such
>> pseudosciences".
>>
>> "I'll mandate the creation of a new American Scientific Committee, which
>> will be in charge of analyzing the evolution of STE in the last 50
>> years, how their results were used to enhance society and civilized
>> values and any trace of indoctrination through MSM, publishing houses
>> and academia".
>>
>> "We'll provide the means for suppressed voices in STE to find a place to
>> communicate ideas and proposals, without the barrier of paywalls to
>> profit from STE with no other basis than greed and discrimination".
>>
>> "Results from the new ASC will be made available to the public in at
>> least two levels: professional and STE communications, to allow anyone
>> to access to such information".
>>
>> "We'll recover the spirit that allowed mankind to progress in such
>> substantial areas that conform STE, and will encourage youth to follow
>> careers in such relevant areas of knowledge, being proven that such
>> careers will contribute to the advancement of civilization, as it
>> happened for centuries".
>
>
> Wonderful!
>
> Wood woof woof-woof woof
>
> Bertietaylor

Thanks!

I imagined what a revolutionary Executive Order could be signed by Trump
to
restore the prolific path that STE created in the last 150 years, which
is permanently being undermined by pseudosciences like relativity. There
are many others, but I tried my best with my poor command of English.
I'm Argentinian.

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#890822 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 3:34:38 +0000, rhertz wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 3:16:57 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 17:44:53 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>>
>>> XO Order:
>>>
>>> "Sciences that are not aligned with American interests and in many cases
>>> antithetical to American values," and "serve to destabilize Science,
>>> Technology and Engineering efforts that made America great, by promoting
>>> ideas that are directly inverse to harmonious and stable evolution of
>>> knowledge that serves to advance civilization and the welfare of human
>>> beings are going immediately to be defunded from any means provided by
>>> the federal government".
>>>
>>> "In particular, many of them will be named as pseudosciences, in
>>> particular everything concerning the use of relativity based projects
>>> for earthly or outer space experiments that have not provided any
>>> relevant contribution to society, and that were based on public or
>>> private founds, only to sustain iconic names, censor critics and
>>> blacklist individuals not aligned with the ideas of such
>>> pseudosciences".
>>>
>>> "I'll mandate the creation of a new American Scientific Committee, which
>>> will be in charge of analyzing the evolution of STE in the last 50
>>> years, how their results were used to enhance society and civilized
>>> values and any trace of indoctrination through MSM, publishing houses
>>> and academia".
>>>
>>> "We'll provide the means for suppressed voices in STE to find a place to
>>> communicate ideas and proposals, without the barrier of paywalls to
>>> profit from STE with no other basis than greed and discrimination".
>>>
>>> "Results from the new ASC will be made available to the public in at
>>> least two levels: professional and STE communications, to allow anyone
>>> to access to such information".
>>>
>>> "We'll recover the spirit that allowed mankind to progress in such
>>> substantial areas that conform STE, and will encourage youth to follow
>>> careers in such relevant areas of knowledge, being proven that such
>>> careers will contribute to the advancement of civilization, as it
>>> happened for centuries".
>>
>>
>> Wonderful!
>>
>> Wood woof woof-woof woof
>>
>> Bertietaylor
>
> Thanks!
>
> I imagined what a revolutionary Executive Order could be signed by Trump
> to
> restore the prolific path that STE created in the last 150 years, which
> is permanently being undermined by pseudosciences like relativity. There
> are many others, but I tried my best with my poor command of English.
> I'm Argentinian.

Thank YOU for your divinely blessed words.
Imagination may turn to reality.
Trump knows what bullshitting is, so he should have no problem in
recognising what frauds the Einsteinians be.
Point is, will be have the guts to kick them out or will he be
disgustingly political.
Wonders never cease, Trump may ask him to give a series of lectures on
physics with demonstrations.
Or the Argentine President, or President Putin or the King of Japan.

Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor

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#890809 — From Incandescent bulbs to LEDs (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin)

Hi,

Not only a Ponzi scheme. Its rooted in some
2008 shock and experiene of loss, experience of
helplessness, and some theories about scarcity,

fairness and trust. Basically distrust into
governement money and various banks, distrust
into non-anonymous tax paying transactions,

comparison to gold and some new world utopias.
These theories are given further support by
pseudo scientific evidence, such as claims

the 1700-1800 UK industrial revolution was
based on money scarcity. Further it is infested
by a lot of con artists.

Some motives are understandable, and depending
on the national background and economy of the
country legitimated.

But the risks mostlikely outweight the chances.
There are dozen examples of things that became
big and disappeared. Thats just normal life cycle
6
theory that applies to an human invention. Take
this simple example:

- 10 years ago housholds were mainly using
   Incandescent bulbs that consumed 60W - 100W

- now housholds use mainly LEDs, using Phosphor
   conversionwith much lower consumption of 6W - 8W

The same will happen with Bitcoin. Bitcoin is extremly
slow protocol, and extremly energy hungry.

Bertietaylor schrieb:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:56:39 +0000, Mild Shock wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:
> 
> Ponzi scheme.
>>
>> Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
>> https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548
>>
>> But when will it happen, how fast and what
>> will be the ripples? This year, next year or
>>
>> in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
>> Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Bertietaylor schrieb:
>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:27:30 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> El Presidente Trumpo, wannabe saviour of the US, full of delectable gas
>>>> at any rate, has regained his power and position.
>>>>
>>>> As Arindam had long predicted; just as he had predicted Putin's 
>>>> success.
>>>> Simply put, there cannot be really good humans in power in democracies.
>>>> So Trump must be labelled as fascist. God be with them and their strict
>>>> absolute ways, with no slimy relativistic hanky -panky.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately he does not think that Trump will have the guts to 
>>>> support
>>>> him and thus boot out the bunkum Einsteinian physics.
>>>> He hopes to be wrong in this...
>>>
>>> Let us see. We shall follow Trump's career with considerable interest.
>>>>
>>>> Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
>>>>
>>>> Bertietaylor

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#890815 — Re: From Incandescent bulbs to LEDs (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin)

On 1/21/25 2:27 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Not only a Ponzi scheme. Its rooted in some
> 2008 shock and experiene of loss, experience of
> helplessness, and some theories about scarcity,
> 
> fairness and trust. Basically distrust into
> governement money and various banks, distrust
> into non-anonymous tax paying transactions,
> 
> comparison to gold and some new world utopias.
> These theories are given further support by
> pseudo scientific evidence, such as claims
> 
> the 1700-1800 UK industrial revolution was
> based on money scarcity. Further it is infested
> by a lot of con artists.
> 
> Some motives are understandable, and depending
> on the national background and economy of the
> country legitimated.
> 
> But the risks mostlikely outweight the chances.
> There are dozen examples of things that became
> big and disappeared. Thats just normal life cycle
> 6
> theory that applies to an human invention. Take
> this simple example:
> 
> - 10 years ago housholds were mainly using
>    Incandescent bulbs that consumed 60W - 100W
> 
> - now housholds use mainly LEDs, using Phosphor
>    conversionwith much lower consumption of 6W - 8W
> 
> The same will happen with Bitcoin. Bitcoin is extremly
> slow protocol, and extremly energy hungry.
> 
> Bertietaylor schrieb:
>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:56:39 +0000, Mild Shock wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:
>>
>> Ponzi scheme.
>>>
>>> Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
>>> https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548
>>>
>>> But when will it happen, how fast and what
>>> will be the ripples? This year, next year or
>>>
>>> in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
>>> Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> Bertietaylor schrieb:
>>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 18:27:30 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> El Presidente Trumpo, wannabe saviour of the US, full of delectable 
>>>>> gas
>>>>> at any rate, has regained his power and position.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Arindam had long predicted; just as he had predicted Putin's 
>>>>> success.
>>>>> Simply put, there cannot be really good humans in power in 
>>>>> democracies.
>>>>> So Trump must be labelled as fascist. God be with them and their 
>>>>> strict
>>>>> absolute ways, with no slimy relativistic hanky -panky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately he does not think that Trump will have the guts to 
>>>>> support
>>>>> him and thus boot out the bunkum Einsteinian physics.
>>>>> He hopes to be wrong in this...
>>>>
>>>> Let us see. We shall follow Trump's career with considerable interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof
>>>>>
>>>>> Bertietaylor
> 



The world is not just USA and Europe. The rest of the world, which is 
almost all of it, do not trust Dollars and Euros and your banks.

You forgot to mention Bitcoin's role in that.

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#890805 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

On 1/21/25 9:56 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:
> 
> Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
> https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548
> 
> But when will it happen, how fast and what
> will be the ripples? This year, next year or
> 
> in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
> Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.
> 
> Bye


As I said before, you're just jealous that you sold all your bitcoins 
when it was $27k :)

It is above $107k now!

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#890808 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

Yeah, you can repeat this over an over,
like a flat earth mantra. Nobody cares.

Physfitfreak schrieb:
> On 1/21/25 9:56 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:
>>
>> Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
>> https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548
>>
>> But when will it happen, how fast and what
>> will be the ripples? This year, next year or
>>
>> in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
>> Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.
>>
>> Bye
> 
> 
> As I said before, you're just jealous that you sold all your bitcoins 
> when it was $27k :)
> 
> It is above $107k now!
> 
> 

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#890814 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

On 1/21/25 2:01 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> 
> Yeah, you can repeat this over an over,
> like a flat earth mantra. Nobody cares.
> 
> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>> On 1/21/25 9:56 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Good Diagnosis, Bitcoin will crash:
>>>
>>> Bitcoin: Der Crash naht
>>> https://www.handelszeitung.ch/geld/bitcoin-der-crash-naht-785548
>>>
>>> But when will it happen, how fast and what
>>> will be the ripples? This year, next year or
>>>
>>> in 2 years? Would be fun if it happens during
>>> Trump's tenure from 2025 - 2029.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>
>>
>> As I said before, you're just jealous that you sold all your bitcoins 
>> when it was $27k :)
>>
>> It is above $107k now!
>>
>>
> 


But is it true? Care or not care is not the point.

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#890825 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

Hi,

Its more complicated. For example with a simple
100k investment just before the USA elections in
november 2024, you could make 40k in a few days,

and you didn't need Bitcoin for that.

Bye

P.S.: Not sure whether this was a simple play
from the book. You would also need to have some
sensory for Kamala versus Trump, when there was

tipping point and how Trump was more pro Bitcoin.
But you didn't need Bitcoin itself for that. Might
have been a play from this book, you can apply

both Uptrend and Downtrend Exit Strategies:

Chandelier Exit (CE) is a volatility-based indicator
It is based on the hypothesis that a trend reversal is
highly probable when the price of an asset moves against
an existing trend up to three times the average volatility.
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/equities/chandelier-exit/

You might want to apply an Uptrend Exit Strategy
because you want to diversify your portfolio.
Diversification could be more important for you

than short time big wins, or even only short time
big wins which are only in the books. Most Bitcoiners
don't understand that high valued instruments

are always risky when not diversified, there is
no exception to Bitcoin.

Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>> As I said before, you're just jealous that you 
>>> sold all your bitcoins when it was $27k :)
>>>
>>> It is above $107k now!
> But is it true? Care or not care is not the point.

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#890826 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

Hi,

If you have a large high valued position, you
have to be always be alert, because of:

Concentration risk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_risk

On the other hand if your portfolio is more
diversified, you can be more relaxed.

Basically Bitcoiners are brain damaged, they
don't trust banks, because of their defaulting
risk, and more crazily they confuse the

banks defaulting risk and claim its not owning an
asset. On the other hand they blindly believe
into a riskless narrative of Bitcoin, because

they think they truly own something. Like when
they have their own Hardware Keys. But we will see
how this all works out. Might be tragic to watch,

who knows when and what will happen?

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Its more complicated. For example with a simple
> 100k investment just before the USA elections in
> november 2024, you could make 40k in a few days,
> 
> and you didn't need Bitcoin for that.
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: Not sure whether this was a simple play
> from the book. You would also need to have some
> sensory for Kamala versus Trump, when there was
> 
> tipping point and how Trump was more pro Bitcoin.
> But you didn't need Bitcoin itself for that. Might
> have been a play from this book, you can apply
> 
> both Uptrend and Downtrend Exit Strategies:
> 
> Chandelier Exit (CE) is a volatility-based indicator
> It is based on the hypothesis that a trend reversal is
> highly probable when the price of an asset moves against
> an existing trend up to three times the average volatility.
> https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/equities/chandelier-exit/
> 
> You might want to apply an Uptrend Exit Strategy
> because you want to diversify your portfolio.
> Diversification could be more important for you
> 
> than short time big wins, or even only short time
> big wins which are only in the books. Most Bitcoiners
> don't understand that high valued instruments
> 
> are always risky when not diversified, there is
> no exception to Bitcoin.
> 
> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>>> As I said before, you're just jealous that you sold all your 
>>>> bitcoins when it was $27k :)
>>>>
>>>> It is above $107k now!
>> But is it true? Care or not care is not the point.
> 

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#890827 — The Zurich Axioms (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in))

Hi,

Now that we have mathematically formulate the saying
"Don’t Put All your Eggs in One Basket" by a Multiplier
also for Uptrends, not only Downtrends:

 >> Chandelier Exit (CE) is a volatility-based indicator
 >> It is based on the hypothesis that a trend reversal is
 >> highly probable when the price of an asset moves against
 >> an existing trend up to three times the average volatility.
 >> 
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/equities/chandelier-exit/

We can consider different Multiplieres. I guess with a
lower Multiplier than 3, like for example 2, one gets
the little bit more defensive Zurich Axioms:

The rules of risk and reward used by
generations of Swiss Bankers
https://www.orellfuessli.ch/shop/home/artikeldetails/A1059152054

Have Fun!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> If you have a large high valued position, you
> have to be always be alert, because of:
> 
> Concentration risk
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_risk
> 
> On the other hand if your portfolio is more
> diversified, you can be more relaxed.
> 
> Basically Bitcoiners are brain damaged, they
> don't trust banks, because of their defaulting
> risk, and more crazily they confuse the
> 
> banks defaulting risk and claim its not owning an
> asset. On the other hand they blindly believe
> into a riskless narrative of Bitcoin, because
> 
> they think they truly own something. Like when
> they have their own Hardware Keys. But we will see
> how this all works out. Might be tragic to watch,
> 
> who knows when and what will happen?
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Its more complicated. For example with a simple
>> 100k investment just before the USA elections in
>> november 2024, you could make 40k in a few days,
>>
>> and you didn't need Bitcoin for that.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: Not sure whether this was a simple play
>> from the book. You would also need to have some
>> sensory for Kamala versus Trump, when there was
>>
>> tipping point and how Trump was more pro Bitcoin.
>> But you didn't need Bitcoin itself for that. Might
>> have been a play from this book, you can apply
>>
>> both Uptrend and Downtrend Exit Strategies:
>>
>> Chandelier Exit (CE) is a volatility-based indicator
>> It is based on the hypothesis that a trend reversal is
>> highly probable when the price of an asset moves against
>> an existing trend up to three times the average volatility.
>> https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/equities/chandelier-exit/
>>
>> You might want to apply an Uptrend Exit Strategy
>> because you want to diversify your portfolio.
>> Diversification could be more important for you
>>
>> than short time big wins, or even only short time
>> big wins which are only in the books. Most Bitcoiners
>> don't understand that high valued instruments
>>
>> are always risky when not diversified, there is
>> no exception to Bitcoin.
>>
>> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>>>> As I said before, you're just jealous that you sold all your 
>>>>> bitcoins when it was $27k :)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is above $107k now!
>>> But is it true? Care or not care is not the point.
>>
> 

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#890829 — Re: Bit careful with Bitcoin (Was: Trump is in)

On 1/22/25 4:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> 
> who knows when and what will happen?


Any sane person in the world knows what will happen.

What will happen is what has happened over and over again in the past 30 
years. USA and Europe one morning wake up and feel their dicks erected, 
therefore freeze dollar assets of some nation in the world who dares to 
respond to Nazis the correct way.

Those who have their wealth in Bitcoin stay safe, those who trusted 
Nazis lose all their money.

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#890830 — „Pecunia-non-olet" (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin)

Hi,

Bitcoin is infected by Nazis. Its long gone a
left movement, it has become a far right movement.

What are you talking about? Here is a list of
some far right advocates:

- Peter Boehringer (AfD Germany)
https://www.presseportal.de/pm/110332/5915082

There is a constant critique of central banks
in these circles, and they see for example
Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) as an

additional threat, to more control over the
populace. But Bitcoin is also not completely
anonymous, you see the transactions in the

distributed ledger and possibly harder and harder
to avoid KYC (Know Your Customer) regulations. For
example ETFs are typically not anonynmous for tax

reasons. I think the fallacy here is that one thinks
money can make a divide between good and evil. This has
never been the case, „Pecunia-non-olet", there is

no guarantee that Bitcoin isn't used in evil manners.

Bye

Physfitfreak schrieb:
> On 1/22/25 4:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>
>> who knows when and what will happen?
> 
> 
> Any sane person in the world knows what will happen.
> 
> What will happen is what has happened over and over 
> again in the past 30 years. USA and Europe one morning 
> wake up and feel their dicks erected, therefore freeze 
> dollar assets of some nation in the world who dares to 
> respond to Nazis the correct way.
> 
> Those who have their wealth in Bitcoin stay safe, 
> those who trusted Nazis lose all their money.

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#890831 — Never store value in money (Was: „Pecunia-non-olet")

Hi,

Also this is extremly stupid:
 > Those who have their wealth
 > in Bitcoin stay safe

If Bitcoin crashes you loose everything,
if you store your wealth in this kind of
money. Its always safer to diversify value

for storage into different instruments.
In as far an economy cannot crash based on
currency problems. Only financial markets can

choke on currency problems. Money is not
anymore tied to gold, because money has become
irrelevant. During a transaction the currency

exchange rates are irrelevant. You would
only experience something if there were
a drastic hourly change. Only uneducated

fools think about money as a value store.
The biggest chunk of value sture is store
in the form of land and buildings, non

movable things, and economies could fall
back to barter economy. Which happens often
during crisis. Basically money is only good for:

Economy Without Financial Markets:
Financial markets provide mechanisms to manage
risk, share investments, and maintain liquidity.
Without them, economies would have fewer tools
for diversifying risk or quickly accessing capital.

Economy Without Money:
Without money, measuring value and coordinating
production and consumption becomes complex. Money
acts as a unit of account, a store of value, and a
medium of exchange. Without these functions, economies
would struggle to establish a common understanding
of value and facilitate trade on a large scale.

But its not for storage.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Bitcoin is infected by Nazis. Its long gone a
> left movement, it has become a far right movement.
> 
> What are you talking about? Here is a list of
> some far right advocates:
> 
> - Peter Boehringer (AfD Germany)
> https://www.presseportal.de/pm/110332/5915082
> 
> There is a constant critique of central banks
> in these circles, and they see for example
> Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) as an
> 
> additional threat, to more control over the
> populace. But Bitcoin is also not completely
> anonymous, you see the transactions in the
> 
> distributed ledger and possibly harder and harder
> to avoid KYC (Know Your Customer) regulations. For
> example ETFs are typically not anonynmous for tax
> 
> reasons. I think the fallacy here is that one thinks
> money can make a divide between good and evil. This has
> never been the case, „Pecunia-non-olet", there is
> 
> no guarantee that Bitcoin isn't used in evil manners.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>> On 1/22/25 4:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>
>>> who knows when and what will happen?
>>
>>
>> Any sane person in the world knows what will happen.
>>
>> What will happen is what has happened over and over again in the past 
>> 30 years. USA and Europe one morning wake up and feel their dicks 
>> erected, therefore freeze dollar assets of some nation in the world 
>> who dares to respond to Nazis the correct way.
>>
>> Those who have their wealth in Bitcoin stay safe, those who trusted 
>> Nazis lose all their money.
> 

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#890832 — The value of Artificial Intelligence IP [intellectual property] (Was: Never store value in money)

You confuse money as a way to measure an asset,
and ignore that you need some asset behind it.
The worst asset is cash, i.e. money itself.
There are other assets, like IP,

intellectual property. Microsoft is so happy
because of Stargate, because its a sign that
they can continue with their OpenAI cooperation,
and generate more and more IP.

They don't generate value as money, they generate
patents, inhouse software solutions, etc.. which
has then a value expressed in the form of money,
i.e. some currency is picked to express it.

This value is quite independent of money. Acually its
constantly re-evaluatet so if there is inflation,
the value might nevertheless go up. Like if Microsoft
can now accumulate more Artificial Intelligence IP,

its value goes up and up and up:

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on Stargate project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb_ZJylekWo

Satya Nadella talks only about IP in the above interview.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Also this is extremly stupid:
>  > Those who have their wealth
>  > in Bitcoin stay safe
> 
> If Bitcoin crashes you loose everything,
> if you store your wealth in this kind of
> money. Its always safer to diversify value
> 
> for storage into different instruments.
> In as far an economy cannot crash based on
> currency problems. Only financial markets can
> 
> choke on currency problems. Money is not
> anymore tied to gold, because money has become
> irrelevant. During a transaction the currency
> 
> exchange rates are irrelevant. You would
> only experience something if there were
> a drastic hourly change. Only uneducated
> 
> fools think about money as a value store.
> The biggest chunk of value sture is store
> in the form of land and buildings, non
> 
> movable things, and economies could fall
> back to barter economy. Which happens often
> during crisis. Basically money is only good for:
> 
> Economy Without Financial Markets:
> Financial markets provide mechanisms to manage
> risk, share investments, and maintain liquidity.
> Without them, economies would have fewer tools
> for diversifying risk or quickly accessing capital.
> 
> Economy Without Money:
> Without money, measuring value and coordinating
> production and consumption becomes complex. Money
> acts as a unit of account, a store of value, and a
> medium of exchange. Without these functions, economies
> would struggle to establish a common understanding
> of value and facilitate trade on a large scale.
> 
> But its not for storage.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Bitcoin is infected by Nazis. Its long gone a
>> left movement, it has become a far right movement.
>>
>> What are you talking about? Here is a list of
>> some far right advocates:
>>
>> - Peter Boehringer (AfD Germany)
>> https://www.presseportal.de/pm/110332/5915082
>>
>> There is a constant critique of central banks
>> in these circles, and they see for example
>> Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) as an
>>
>> additional threat, to more control over the
>> populace. But Bitcoin is also not completely
>> anonymous, you see the transactions in the
>>
>> distributed ledger and possibly harder and harder
>> to avoid KYC (Know Your Customer) regulations. For
>> example ETFs are typically not anonynmous for tax
>>
>> reasons. I think the fallacy here is that one thinks
>> money can make a divide between good and evil. This has
>> never been the case, „Pecunia-non-olet", there is
>>
>> no guarantee that Bitcoin isn't used in evil manners.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>> On 1/22/25 4:28 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>>
>>>> who knows when and what will happen?
>>>
>>>
>>> Any sane person in the world knows what will happen.
>>>
>>> What will happen is what has happened over and over again in the past 
>>> 30 years. USA and Europe one morning wake up and feel their dicks 
>>> erected, therefore freeze dollar assets of some nation in the world 
>>> who dares to respond to Nazis the correct way.
>>>
>>> Those who have their wealth in Bitcoin stay safe, those who trusted 
>>> Nazis lose all their money.
>>
> 

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#890833 — Re: „Pecunia-non-olet" (Was: Bit careful with Bitcoin)

On 1/22/25 12:05 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> there is
> 
> no guarantee that Bitcoin isn't used in evil manners.


That doesn't matter. A knife can also be used in evil manners. The point 
is no innocent owner of dollars should lose his money to some Nazis. 
Therefore crypto is better than dollar.

This happened to myself also. In 1980, while busy in graduate school I 
lifted my head and found out my money in an American bank  here was 
frozen!.. For a good while I did not have access to it. I checked the 
news and turned out after the American embassy in Tehran conducted a 
number of unsuccessful coups against the new government in Iran, 
Iranians took all those criminal staff hostage. They should've been 
tried and executed but American government temporarily backed off from 
planning coups.

Only when Reagan personally promised (on bible!) to head of Iran's 
government that he will never pursue a coup in Iran, Iran let those 
motherfuckers loose.

This is from my own life and what happened to myself. Are you going to 
convince me that Bitcoin is more dangerous than that? I don't think you 
can.

Bitcoin is the _result_ of Nazis' presence all over USA and Europe.

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