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Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells

Started byMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
First post2024-11-08 02:04 +0100
Last post2024-12-06 01:13 +0100
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  Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-08 02:04 +0100
    Muricas more Woke than before (Re: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-08 11:24 +0100
      Re: Muricas more Woke than before (Re: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-09 19:05 -0600
        Re: Muricas more Woke than before (Re: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-10 04:04 +0100
    Trump derangement syndrome Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-10 03:46 +0100
    Michael Saylor leads the brainless (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-11 22:00 +0100
      Flashback: Silver Thursday and the Hunt Brothers (Was: Michael Saylor leads the brainless) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-11 22:12 +0100
    Book Project: WomanLogic (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-14 21:36 +0100
    Crazy Trading: Passwort Ignition Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-16 08:43 +0100
      These are the brains I was talking about (Re: Crazy Trading: Passwort Ignition) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-16 08:53 +0100
        Re: These are the brains I was talking about (Re: Crazy Trading: Passwort Ignition) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-16 19:52 -0600
      Re: Crazy Trading: Passwort Ignition Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-16 19:47 -0600
    #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-25 20:35 +0100
      Top-Ten Bitcoin Songs (Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-25 20:52 +0100
        Re: Top-Ten Bitcoin Songs (Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 18:05 -0600
          Re: Top-Ten Bitcoin Songs (Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 22:12 -0600
      Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 17:51 -0600
        Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-11-26 08:53 +0100
        Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-27 07:42 +0000
      Re: #Bitcoin Big Dump Coming Guys ? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-27 07:40 +0000
    Putin enters the Now-Economy (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-01 15:28 +0100
    Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-05 11:12 +0100
      Bitcoin doesn't want to drink Tea with Putin (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-05 18:48 +0100
        Re: Bitcoin doesn't want to drink Tea with Putin (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:56 -0600
      Re: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 14:54 -0600
        Re: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-05 23:09 +0100
          Re: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-05 23:14 +0100
            The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-05 23:27 +0100
              Re: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:44 -0600
                Re: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:51 -0600
                  Re: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-06 01:06 +0100
    Where "piggyback" off Bitcoin? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2024-12-06 01:13 +0100

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#890302 — Putin enters the Now-Economy (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-01 15:28 +0100
SubjectPutin enters the Now-Economy (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)
Message-ID<vihrq8$lt4v$1@solani.org>
In reply to#889986
Hi,

Trump is pro Crypto, well Putin as well!

Another law passed around the same time allows
Russia’s Central Bank to set up a pilot project
exploring cross-border transactions using cryptocurrency.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/29/putin-signs-law-on-cryptocurrency-tax-a87172

So where are we heading towards? I guess
something like this here, but on all levels, whether
buying a chocolate in Coop, or ordering an Uber

taxi, or managing your own pension fund
portfolio. The smart phone has become one of
the ubiquitious devices:

Social, Economic, and Ethical Implications of
Ambient Intelligence and Ubiquitous Computing
real-time economy or now-economy
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215439655

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> The good thing is that Muricas have
> no Braincells. They might really try to
> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve,
> 
> basically not understanding what Crypto
> means and how limited Bitcoin will be
> in the future, Bitcoin will basically dissolve
> 
> in a few years, and be replaced by
> other Coins that are faster and unlimited.
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: Even China is laughing at Muricas:
> 
> JUST IN: 🇨🇳 China Central TV reports that
> “Trump has promised to make the US the
> world's #Bitcoin and crypto capital and
> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve.”
> https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1854580132423614888
> 
> But you find the idea also formulate by Muricas.

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#890342 — Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-05 11:12 +0100
SubjectMilestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)
Message-ID<viruba$eo3p$1@solani.org>
In reply to#889986
Ha Ha,

Thats a little bit idiotic post:

It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
off politicians and getting in bed with government.
Without expected government intervention, this
milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
be done in a free market was achieved through the
cohesive power of the state.
https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577

Wait till the bubble bursts.

LoL

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> The good thing is that Muricas have
> no Braincells. They might really try to
> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve,
> 
> basically not understanding what Crypto
> means and how limited Bitcoin will be
> in the future, Bitcoin will basically dissolve
> 
> in a few years, and be replaced by
> other Coins that are faster and unlimited.
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: Even China is laughing at Muricas:
> 
> JUST IN: 🇨🇳 China Central TV reports that
> “Trump has promised to make the US the
> world's #Bitcoin and crypto capital and
> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve.”
> https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1854580132423614888
> 
> But you find the idea also formulate by Muricas.

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#890347 — Bitcoin doesn't want to drink Tea with Putin (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-05 18:48 +0100
SubjectBitcoin doesn't want to drink Tea with Putin (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)
Message-ID<visp1i$f944$1@solani.org>
In reply to#890342
Hi,

Ok, russians are a little slow sometimes:

JUST IN: 🇷🇺 Russian President Putin says "who can ban #Bitcoin?"
https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1864319265840488854

But it would be funny to excercise rug pull.
(But technically impossible I guess, there will
be just a bubble burst for everybody, and it
will hit those that are unprepared)

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Ha Ha,
> 
> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
> 
> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
> Without expected government intervention, this
> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
> be done in a free market was achieved through the
> cohesive power of the state.
> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
> 
> Wait till the bubble bursts.
> 
> LoL
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The good thing is that Muricas have
>> no Braincells. They might really try to
>> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve,
>>
>> basically not understanding what Crypto
>> means and how limited Bitcoin will be
>> in the future, Bitcoin will basically dissolve
>>
>> in a few years, and be replaced by
>> other Coins that are faster and unlimited.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> P.S.: Even China is laughing at Muricas:
>>
>> JUST IN: 🇨🇳 China Central TV reports that
>> “Trump has promised to make the US the
>> world's #Bitcoin and crypto capital and
>> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve.”
>> https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1854580132423614888
>>
>> But you find the idea also formulate by Muricas.
> 

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#890354 — Re: Bitcoin doesn't want to drink Tea with Putin (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-05 14:56 -0600
SubjectRe: Bitcoin doesn't want to drink Tea with Putin (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)
Message-ID<vit41r$ru56$3@solani.org>
In reply to#890347
On 12/5/24 11:48 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ok, russians are a little slow sometimes:
> 
> JUST IN: 🇷🇺 Russian President Putin says "who can ban #Bitcoin?"


Bitcoin worked nicely for Russians too. Any nation who's been sanctioned 
by Nazis can fight it back with Bitcoin.

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#890353 — Re: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-05 14:54 -0600
SubjectRe: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)
Message-ID<vit3ur$ru56$2@solani.org>
In reply to#890342
On 12/5/24 4:12 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Ha Ha,
> 
> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
> 
> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
> Without expected government intervention, this
> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
> be done in a free market was achieved through the
> cohesive power of the state.
> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
> 
> Wait till the bubble bursts.
> 
> LoL



But that's another way of saying, "Thieves want their Dollars in a safe 
place too."

Bitcoin works for everybody!

You sound unhappy about it cause you probably had a ton of money in the 
form of Bitcoin when it was $20k then sold it all when it was $30K :-)))

It won't see those values ever again :) I'm happier than you because I 
never placed my money in bitcoin. It moved up too slowly for me and I 
could do better with other cryptos. Plus you cannot do Options with 
crypto. That sucks.





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#890356 — Re: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-05 23:09 +0100
SubjectRe: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)
Message-ID<vit89v$s0rt$1@solani.org>
In reply to#890353
Yes I am unhappy. Since I am longing for the kick of:

"Malicious joy is the purest joy."

I am desperately waiting for this to happen figuratively:

Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auzfTPp4moA

I cannot believe that we can already control the world,
despite all the Artificial Intelligence and stuff,
and regulations from previous crashes.

Recent crashes were:
- Dot-com bubble burst 2000
- Housing Market Collapse 2008
-

Then the world was busy with Corona and Ukraine.
Now its time for a nice little financial crash,
that causes trillion damages, and not only

billion damages as the FTX crash.

Physfitfreak schrieb:
> On 12/5/24 4:12 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> Ha Ha,
>>
>> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
>>
>> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
>> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
>> Without expected government intervention, this
>> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
>> be done in a free market was achieved through the
>> cohesive power of the state.
>> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
>>
>> Wait till the bubble bursts.
>>
>> LoL
> 
> 
> 
> But that's another way of saying, "Thieves want their Dollars in a safe 
> place too."
> 
> Bitcoin works for everybody!
> 
> You sound unhappy about it cause you probably had a ton of money in the 
> form of Bitcoin when it was $20k then sold it all when it was $30K :-)))
> 
> It won't see those values ever again :) I'm happier than you because I 
> never placed my money in bitcoin. It moved up too slowly for me and I 
> could do better with other cryptos. Plus you cannot do Options with 
> crypto. That sucks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#890357 — Re: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-05 23:14 +0100
SubjectRe: Milestone or Maelstrom? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)
Message-ID<vit8kt$s11v$1@solani.org>
In reply to#890356
Somehow I have a gut feeling that Donald Trump
is the prime candidate to cause such a mess.
Who knows, maybe in 3 months from now

we don't see MAGA, but rather a further decend
into  becoming a 3rd world country, because of
some crazy gamblers.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Yes I am unhappy. Since I am longing for the kick of:
> 
> "Malicious joy is the purest joy."
> 
> I am desperately waiting for this to happen figuratively:
> 
> Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auzfTPp4moA
> 
> I cannot believe that we can already control the world,
> despite all the Artificial Intelligence and stuff,
> and regulations from previous crashes.
> 
> Recent crashes were:
> - Dot-com bubble burst 2000
> - Housing Market Collapse 2008
> -
> 
> Then the world was busy with Corona and Ukraine.
> Now its time for a nice little financial crash,
> that causes trillion damages, and not only
> 
> billion damages as the FTX crash.
> 
> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>> On 12/5/24 4:12 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Ha Ha,
>>>
>>> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
>>>
>>> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
>>> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
>>> Without expected government intervention, this
>>> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
>>> be done in a free market was achieved through the
>>> cohesive power of the state.
>>> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
>>>
>>> Wait till the bubble bursts.
>>>
>>> LoL
>>
>>
>>
>> But that's another way of saying, "Thieves want their Dollars in a 
>> safe place too."
>>
>> Bitcoin works for everybody!
>>
>> You sound unhappy about it cause you probably had a ton of money in 
>> the form of Bitcoin when it was $20k then sold it all when it was $30K 
>> :-)))
>>
>> It won't see those values ever again :) I'm happier than you because I 
>> never placed my money in bitcoin. It moved up too slowly for me and I 
>> could do better with other cryptos. Plus you cannot do Options with 
>> crypto. That sucks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 

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#890358 — The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-05 23:27 +0100
SubjectThe trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)
Message-ID<vit9c8$s1a9$1@solani.org>
In reply to#890357
The trillion dollar damage is
very easy to conceive:

- The Bitcoin supply replaces fiat through usage,
   so its value is not only perceived but becomes real.

- Bitcoin slumps back from 100'000 to 50'000.
   Because technically Bitcoin is nonsense.

Whats the damage now? As of now, around 19.5
million Bitcoin have been mined.

50,000 × 19,500,000 = 0.975 trillion USD

LoL

P.S.: Question is who gets the "Old Maid" card?

Mild Shock schrieb:
> 
> Somehow I have a gut feeling that Donald Trump
> is the prime candidate to cause such a mess.
> Who knows, maybe in 3 months from now
> 
> we don't see MAGA, but rather a further decend
> into  becoming a 3rd world country, because of
> some crazy gamblers.
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Yes I am unhappy. Since I am longing for the kick of:
>>
>> "Malicious joy is the purest joy."
>>
>> I am desperately waiting for this to happen figuratively:
>>
>> Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auzfTPp4moA
>>
>> I cannot believe that we can already control the world,
>> despite all the Artificial Intelligence and stuff,
>> and regulations from previous crashes.
>>
>> Recent crashes were:
>> - Dot-com bubble burst 2000
>> - Housing Market Collapse 2008
>> -
>>
>> Then the world was busy with Corona and Ukraine.
>> Now its time for a nice little financial crash,
>> that causes trillion damages, and not only
>>
>> billion damages as the FTX crash.
>>
>> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>> On 12/5/24 4:12 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>> Ha Ha,
>>>>
>>>> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
>>>>
>>>> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
>>>> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
>>>> Without expected government intervention, this
>>>> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
>>>> be done in a free market was achieved through the
>>>> cohesive power of the state.
>>>> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
>>>>
>>>> Wait till the bubble bursts.
>>>>
>>>> LoL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But that's another way of saying, "Thieves want their Dollars in a 
>>> safe place too."
>>>
>>> Bitcoin works for everybody!
>>>
>>> You sound unhappy about it cause you probably had a ton of money in 
>>> the form of Bitcoin when it was $20k then sold it all when it was 
>>> $30K :-)))
>>>
>>> It won't see those values ever again :) I'm happier than you because 
>>> I never placed my money in bitcoin. It moved up too slowly for me and 
>>> I could do better with other cryptos. Plus you cannot do Options with 
>>> crypto. That sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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#890359 — Re: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-05 16:44 -0600
SubjectRe: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)
Message-ID<vitac6$s0pt$1@solani.org>
In reply to#890358
On 12/5/24 4:27 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> The trillion dollar damage is
> very easy to conceive:
> 
> - The Bitcoin supply replaces fiat through usage,
>    so its value is not only perceived but becomes real.
> 
> - Bitcoin slumps back from 100'000 to 50'000.
>    Because technically Bitcoin is nonsense.
> 
> Whats the damage now? As of now, around 19.5
> million Bitcoin have been mined.
> 
> 50,000 × 19,500,000 = 0.975 trillion USD
> 
> LoL
> 
> P.S.: Question is who gets the "Old Maid" card?
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>
>> Somehow I have a gut feeling that Donald Trump
>> is the prime candidate to cause such a mess.
>> Who knows, maybe in 3 months from now
>>
>> we don't see MAGA, but rather a further decend
>> into  becoming a 3rd world country, because of
>> some crazy gamblers.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Yes I am unhappy. Since I am longing for the kick of:
>>>
>>> "Malicious joy is the purest joy."
>>>
>>> I am desperately waiting for this to happen figuratively:
>>>
>>> Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auzfTPp4moA
>>>
>>> I cannot believe that we can already control the world,
>>> despite all the Artificial Intelligence and stuff,
>>> and regulations from previous crashes.
>>>
>>> Recent crashes were:
>>> - Dot-com bubble burst 2000
>>> - Housing Market Collapse 2008
>>> -
>>>
>>> Then the world was busy with Corona and Ukraine.
>>> Now its time for a nice little financial crash,
>>> that causes trillion damages, and not only
>>>
>>> billion damages as the FTX crash.
>>>
>>> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>>> On 12/5/24 4:12 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>>> Ha Ha,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
>>>>> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
>>>>> Without expected government intervention, this
>>>>> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
>>>>> be done in a free market was achieved through the
>>>>> cohesive power of the state.
>>>>> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait till the bubble bursts.
>>>>>
>>>>> LoL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But that's another way of saying, "Thieves want their Dollars in a 
>>>> safe place too."
>>>>
>>>> Bitcoin works for everybody!
>>>>
>>>> You sound unhappy about it cause you probably had a ton of money in 
>>>> the form of Bitcoin when it was $20k then sold it all when it was 
>>>> $30K :-)))
>>>>
>>>> It won't see those values ever again :) I'm happier than you because 
>>>> I never placed my money in bitcoin. It moved up too slowly for me 
>>>> and I could do better with other cryptos. Plus you cannot do Options 
>>>> with crypto. That sucks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 


I don't see it that way. Bitcoin thrives on people not trusting Dollar 
and Euro. This lack of trust is very real. Nothing imaginary about that. 
As long as Dollar is Nazis' weapon, you will have a strong Bitcoin.

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#890360 — Re: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-05 16:51 -0600
SubjectRe: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)
Message-ID<vitapb$s0pt$2@solani.org>
In reply to#890359
On 12/5/24 4:44 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 12/5/24 4:27 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>> The trillion dollar damage is
>> very easy to conceive:
>>
>> - The Bitcoin supply replaces fiat through usage,
>>    so its value is not only perceived but becomes real.
>>
>> - Bitcoin slumps back from 100'000 to 50'000.
>>    Because technically Bitcoin is nonsense.
>>
>> Whats the damage now? As of now, around 19.5
>> million Bitcoin have been mined.
>>
>> 50,000 × 19,500,000 = 0.975 trillion USD
>>
>> LoL
>>
>> P.S.: Question is who gets the "Old Maid" card?
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>
>>> Somehow I have a gut feeling that Donald Trump
>>> is the prime candidate to cause such a mess.
>>> Who knows, maybe in 3 months from now
>>>
>>> we don't see MAGA, but rather a further decend
>>> into  becoming a 3rd world country, because of
>>> some crazy gamblers.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Yes I am unhappy. Since I am longing for the kick of:
>>>>
>>>> "Malicious joy is the purest joy."
>>>>
>>>> I am desperately waiting for this to happen figuratively:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auzfTPp4moA
>>>>
>>>> I cannot believe that we can already control the world,
>>>> despite all the Artificial Intelligence and stuff,
>>>> and regulations from previous crashes.
>>>>
>>>> Recent crashes were:
>>>> - Dot-com bubble burst 2000
>>>> - Housing Market Collapse 2008
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Then the world was busy with Corona and Ukraine.
>>>> Now its time for a nice little financial crash,
>>>> that causes trillion damages, and not only
>>>>
>>>> billion damages as the FTX crash.
>>>>
>>>> Physfitfreak schrieb:
>>>>> On 12/5/24 4:12 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
>>>>>> Ha Ha,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats a little bit idiotic post:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's ironic that #Bitcoin only hit $100k by buying
>>>>>> off politicians and getting in bed with government.
>>>>>> Without expected government intervention, this
>>>>>> milestone never would have been hit. What couldn't
>>>>>> be done in a free market was achieved through the
>>>>>> cohesive power of the state.
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/1864506441232744577
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait till the bubble bursts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LoL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But that's another way of saying, "Thieves want their Dollars in a 
>>>>> safe place too."
>>>>>
>>>>> Bitcoin works for everybody!
>>>>>
>>>>> You sound unhappy about it cause you probably had a ton of money in 
>>>>> the form of Bitcoin when it was $20k then sold it all when it was 
>>>>> $30K :-)))
>>>>>
>>>>> It won't see those values ever again :) I'm happier than you 
>>>>> because I never placed my money in bitcoin. It moved up too slowly 
>>>>> for me and I could do better with other cryptos. Plus you cannot do 
>>>>> Options with crypto. That sucks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> I don't see it that way. Bitcoin thrives on people not trusting Dollar 
> and Euro. This lack of trust is very real. Nothing imaginary about that. 
> As long as Dollar is Nazis' weapon, you will have a strong Bitcoin.
> 
> 


Even now, with Bitcoin over $100k, if you have extra cash you need to 
buy Bitcoin. Because it will go up as soon as anything happens in the 
world. Iran retaliates against Israel? Bitcoin will go up. Syrian war 
gets more intense? Bitcoin will go up. Trump fucks up again? Bitcoin 
will go up. Iran signs off from NPT and walks away? (they're very close 
to do that) Bitcoin will jump up!

With Nazis around, Bitcoin is the winner. Invest in it. Nazis don't go 
away by themselves, you know. A lot of messy processes will cause that. 
Bitcoin will protect you along that troublesome way.

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#890362 — Re: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-06 01:06 +0100
SubjectRe: The trillion dollar damage (Was: Milestone or Maelstrom?)
Message-ID<vitf62$s3uf$1@solani.org>
In reply to#890360
I don't think so. Bitcoin is not exclusive.
Its not like THE GOLD. There are MANY GOLDS now.

Thats only idiot presidents talk even mentioning
the very specific bitcoin crypto currency, and
not crypto currencies more general that can come

in a variety of forms:

Q: What general categories of crypto currencies are
there? Like stable coins, meme coins . What else?

Cryptocurrencies can be grouped into several broad categories based on 
their purpose and underlying mechanisms. Here are some general categories:

Bitcoin and its Clones: Cryptocurrencies that are based on the original 
Bitcoin protocol, including Bitcoin itself and other similar currencies 
like Bitcoin Cash or Litecoin.

Altcoins: This is a broad category that includes any cryptocurrency 
other than Bitcoin. These can have a variety of use cases and technology.

Stablecoins: Cryptocurrencies designed to maintain a stable value, 
typically pegged to a reserve asset like the US dollar (e.g., Tether 
(USDT), USD Coin (USDC)).

Meme Coins: Cryptocurrencies created often for fun or as part of a viral 
trend. Examples include Dogecoin and Shiba Inu.

Privacy Coins: These focus on ensuring transactions are private and 
anonymous. Examples include Monero (XMR) and Zcash (ZEC).

DeFi Tokens: Cryptocurrencies used in decentralized finance (DeFi) 
platforms for lending, borrowing, and other financial services. Examples 
include Uniswap (UNI) and Aave (AAVE).

Platform Coins: These are cryptocurrencies associated with blockchain 
platforms that enable the creation and execution of smart contracts and 
decentralized applications (DApps). Examples include Ethereum (ETH) and 
Cardano (ADA).

Governance Tokens: Cryptocurrencies used for governance in decentralized 
networks, allowing holders to vote on protocol changes. Examples include 
Maker (MKR) and Compound (COMP).

Utility Tokens: Cryptocurrencies that have a specific function within 
their platform or ecosystem, like Chainlink (LINK), which connects smart 
contracts to external data.

Security Tokens: Tokens that represent ownership of an asset, such as 
shares in a company, and are regulated like traditional securities.

NFT-related Tokens: These are tokens connected to non-fungible tokens 
(NFTs) or digital collectibles, such as those used in the art and gaming 
industries.

These categories are not always mutually exclusive, and some 
cryptocurrencies might fall into multiple categories.

Q: Where does GALA or AUDIO fit?

GALA and AUDIO fit into specific categories based on their use cases:

GALA:

Category: Platform Coins / Gaming Tokens
Use Case: GALA is the native cryptocurrency of the Gala Games ecosystem, 
which focuses on creating blockchain-based games and decentralized game 
economies. It's used for transactions, in-game purchases, and governance 
within the Gala Games platform.
AUDIO:

Category: Utility Tokens / Platform Coins
Use Case: AUDIO is the native token of Audius, a decentralized music 
streaming platform. It is used for governance, staking, and rewarding 
content creators and curators within the Audius ecosystem.
Both of these cryptocurrencies are designed to support and enhance the 
user experience within their respective ecosystems, with GALA focusing 
on gaming and AUDIO on music streaming.

Q: Where does ETH fit?

Ethereum (ETH) primarily fits into the category of Platform Coins, but 
it also has aspects of Utility Tokens.

Platform Coin: Ethereum is the foundational cryptocurrency of the 
Ethereum network, which is a decentralized platform for building and 
executing smart contracts and decentralized applications (DApps). 
Ethereum enables developers to create a wide range of applications, from 
financial services (DeFi) to gaming and NFTs.

Utility Token: ETH is used as "gas" to pay for transaction fees and 
computational services on the Ethereum network. It's essential for 
interacting with smart contracts, executing DApps, and running 
decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs) on the Ethereum blockchain.

In summary, Ethereum is both a Platform Coin (because it's central to 
the Ethereum ecosystem) and a Utility Token (because it's required for 
operations on the platform).

Q: Platform Coins allow the creation of other coins?

Yes, Platform Coins (like Ethereum) enable the creation of other 
cryptocurrencies or tokens through their blockchain. These platform 
coins provide the infrastructure and tools for developers to issue new 
tokens that can have specific use cases within the platform's ecosystem. 
Here’s how they work:

Smart Contracts: Platform coins like Ethereum, Binance Smart Chain 
(BSC), and others allow developers to create smart 
contracts—self-executing agreements with the terms directly written into 
code. These smart contracts are the foundation for creating new tokens, 
which can represent anything from assets to utility rights or governance 
power.

Token Standards: Most platform coins follow specific token standards 
that provide guidelines on how tokens should behave. For example, on 
Ethereum, the ERC-20 standard is commonly used for creating fungible 
tokens (like stablecoins or utility tokens). The ERC-721 standard is 
used for creating non-fungible tokens (NFTs).

Initial Coin Offerings (ICOs) / Token Sales: New tokens can be launched 
through ICOs or token sales, where developers offer their tokens to the 
public in exchange for platform coins (like ETH) or other 
cryptocurrencies. This process allows for the growth of the ecosystem 
with additional tokens or assets that interact with the platform.

In summary, Platform Coins serve as the backbone for many other 
cryptocurrencies and tokens by providing the infrastructure to create, 
transfer, and interact with new digital assets. Ethereum is the most 
prominent example, but there are other platforms (like Solana, Cardano, 
and Polkadot) that offer similar functionalities.

Q: Some Meme coins run on ETH other on SOL ?

, meme coins can run on different blockchain platforms, and some of them 
are built on Ethereum (ETH), while others may run on Solana (SOL), or 
even other blockchains.

Meme Coins on Ethereum (ETH):
Ethereum is one of the most popular blockchains for launching various 
types of tokens, including meme coins. Ethereum’s robust infrastructure, 
large developer community, and established ecosystem make it a common 
choice.

Examples: Dogecoin and Shiba Inu were initially associated with Ethereum 
before growing in their respective ecosystems. Even though some may move 
or operate on other chains, they started or still have connections with 
Ethereum.

Meme Coins on Solana (SOL):
Solana is another popular blockchain that is known for its fast 
transaction speeds and low fees. Some meme coins are being developed on 
Solana due to these advantages, which can be particularly appealing for 
meme coin communities that require quick, low-cost transactions.
Example: Bonk Coin (BONK) is a meme coin that gained attention and was 
created on the Solana blockchain.

Why Different Blockchains?
Ethereum: Offers a mature, well-tested environment with robust tools for 
creating tokens (via ERC-20 or other token standards) and a large user base.
Solana: Known for high-speed and low-fee transactions, which makes it 
more attractive for meme coins and other token projects that need fast 
and inexpensive operations, especially for communities that engage in 
frequent transactions (e.g., buying and selling meme coins).

In short, meme coins are not limited to any single blockchain and can be 
built on any platform that supports smart contracts or token creation, 
with Ethereum and Solana being two of the most common choices for such 
projects.

Physfitfreak schrieb:
> 
> Even now, with Bitcoin over $100k, if you have extra cash you need to 
> buy Bitcoin. Because it will go up as soon as anything happens in the 
> world. Iran retaliates against Israel? Bitcoin will go up. Syrian war 
> gets more intense? Bitcoin will go up. Trump fucks up again? Bitcoin 
> will go up. Iran signs off from NPT and walks away? (they're very close 
> to do that) Bitcoin will jump up!
> 
> With Nazis around, Bitcoin is the winner. Invest in it. Nazis don't go 
> away by themselves, you know. A lot of messy processes will cause that. 
> Bitcoin will protect you along that troublesome way.
> 
> 

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#890363 — Where "piggyback" off Bitcoin? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-12-06 01:13 +0100
SubjectWhere "piggyback" off Bitcoin? (Was: Crazy Trading: Muricas have no Braincells)
Message-ID<vitfj6$s418$1@solani.org>
In reply to#889986
Hi,

I recently was juggling with PEPE since it showed
nicer numbers than ETH. 1 PEPE is currently 0.0000001 ETH.

So instead of buying grocery with 0.0001 ETH (ca. 3.5 USD),
I used 1000 PEPE, which felt like 1000 cent?

You can do the same with FLOKI.

Can Bitcoin do that?

The PEPE meme coin, like many other meme coins, operates as a token on a 
blockchain. Specifically, PEPE runs on the Ethereum (ETH) network as an 
ERC-20 token.

Key Points about PEPE:
ERC-20 Token: PEPE is created as an ERC-20 token on the Ethereum 
blockchain, which follows the ERC-20 standard. This means it inherits 
the Ethereum blockchain's properties, including its security, 
decentralization, and compatibility with Ethereum-based wallets, 
decentralized exchanges (DEXs), and other tools.

Meme Coin Nature: PEPE is a meme coin inspired by the popular "Pepe the 
Frog" meme, similar to other meme coins like Dogecoin or Shiba Inu. 
While its value is largely driven by community engagement, meme culture, 
and speculative interest, it still functions as a token within the 
Ethereum ecosystem.

Smart Contract: As an ERC-20 token, PEPE is governed by a smart 
contract, which defines its total supply, how transactions are 
processed, and other technical parameters. These smart contracts are 
executed on the Ethereum network, ensuring that transactions with PEPE 
are transparent, secure, and decentralized.

In summary, PEPE is an ERC-20 meme coin running on the Ethereum 
blockchain, leveraging its infrastructure to provide token functionality 
while being part of the broader meme coin phenomenon.

A Bitcoin piggybacked meme coin typically refers to a meme coin that is 
either inspired by Bitcoin or uses Bitcoin's name, branding, or 
principles but operates on a different blockchain. These coins might not 
necessarily share Bitcoin's underlying technology but are often created 
to capitalize on Bitcoin's popularity or mimic its model.

For example:

Bitcoin-inspired meme coins: These meme coins may adopt Bitcoin's name 
or branding (like "Bitcoin Cash" or "Bitcoin SV"), but they are separate 
cryptocurrencies with their own blockchains and technical features.
Tokens on Bitcoin-based platforms: There are platforms like Stacks that 
allow for the creation of smart contracts and tokens on top of the 
Bitcoin network. Meme coins built using this type of technology could be 
seen as "piggybacking" off Bitcoin's security and popularity but are 
actually functioning on different protocols designed to enable smart 
contracts and token creation.
However, most meme coins (e.g., Dogecoin, Shiba Inu, PEPE) generally 
don't directly run on Bitcoin’s blockchain. Instead, they operate on 
platforms like Ethereum, Solana, or Binance Smart Chain, which allow for 
the creation of custom tokens.

In summary, while there are coins inspired by Bitcoin, many meme coins 
run on different blockchain platforms and don’t technically "piggyback" 
off Bitcoin itself, but may use its name or appeal to capitalize on its 
fame.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> The good thing is that Muricas have
> no Braincells. They might really try to
> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve,
> 
> basically not understanding what Crypto
> means and how limited Bitcoin will be
> in the future, Bitcoin will basically dissolve
> 
> in a few years, and be replaced by
> other Coins that are faster and unlimited.
> 
> Bye
> 
> P.S.: Even China is laughing at Muricas:
> 
> JUST IN: 🇨🇳 China Central TV reports that
> “Trump has promised to make the US the
> world's #Bitcoin and crypto capital and
> establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve.”
> https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1854580132423614888
> 
> But you find the idea also formulate by Muricas.

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