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The only way

Started byjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
First post2017-03-27 19:53 -0700
Last post2017-03-29 15:58 -0700
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  The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 19:53 -0700
    Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 22:20 -0700
    The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 04:58 -0700
      The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 05:18 -0700
        Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:24 -0700
          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:41 -0700
            Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:45 -0700
              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:06 -0400
            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 15:00 +0000
              Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:10 -0700
                Re: The only way Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-28 11:50 -0500
                  Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 06:52 -0700
                    Re: The only way benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 23:46 -0400
                      Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 06:04 -0700
                        Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 07:13 -0700
                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 08:57 -0700
                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 11:08 -0500
                              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-30 16:32 -0400
                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 14:06 -0700
                                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 16:15 -0500
                                    Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-30 18:03 -0400
                                      Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 21:10 -0700
                                    Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 21:09 -0700
                                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 16:17 -0500
                                Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 20:57 -0700
                            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-30 22:03 +0000
                              Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 15:11 -0700
                                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 17:18 -0500
                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 15:30 -0700
                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 09:58 -0500
                                      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:28 -0500
                                        Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-31 17:52 +0000
                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:00 -0700
                                            Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:13 -0700
                                              Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:52 -0700
                                                Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 12:10 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:06 -0400
                                                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 14:39 -0500
                                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 14:19 -0700
                                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:34 -0500
                                                      Re: The only way benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:04 -0400
                                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:55 -0500
                                                Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 03:25 +0000
                                              Re: The only way "Hoofington P. McSnort" <nop@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 22:55 -0700
                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 14:18 -0500
                                            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 03:36 +0000
                                              Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 03:11 -0700
                                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 06:31 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 07:05 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 14:16 +0000
                                                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 07:33 -0700
                                                      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 13:22 -0500
                                                      Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 21:57 +0000
                                                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:15 -0700
                                                          Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 22:49 +0000
                                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 18:08 -0700
                                                              Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 01:53 +0000
                                                          Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:35 -0500
                                                  Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 08:05 -0700
                                                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 08:54 -0700
                                                      Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 09:15 -0700
                                                        Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 22:12 +0000
                                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:19 -0700
                                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:32 -0700
                                                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:41 -0500
                                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:36 -0700
                                                              Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 15:45 -0700
                                                                Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 00:25 +0000
                                                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 18:11 -0700
                                                                    Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 01:54 +0000
                                                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 18:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 18:24 -0700
                                                                      Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 18:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:47 -0500
                                                                      Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 03:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 22:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 13:45 +0000
                                                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-02 07:12 -0700
                                                                              Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 15:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-02 09:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 19:12 +0000
                                                                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-02 09:27 -0700
                                                                                  Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 19:34 +0000
                                                                                    Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 03:36 -0700
                                                                                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 04:34 -0700
                                                                                      Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-03 12:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:51 -0500
                                                                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:49 -0500
                                                                      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:46 -0500
                                                                    Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 01:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 19:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-02 03:47 +0000
                                                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:43 -0500
                                                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:41 -0500
                                                                way sylli noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 07:50 -0700
                                                                  way sylli john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:14 -0700
                                                                    Re: way sylli Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 10:29 -0500
                                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:38 -0500
                                                      Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:26 -0700
                                                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:59 -0700
                                                          Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:19 -0700
                                                            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 22:16 +0000
                                                  Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 09:49 -0700
                                                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:04 -0700
                                                      Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:00 -0700
                                                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:03 -0700
                                                          Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:06 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 13:19 -0500
                                                Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 17:45 -0400
                                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 14:50 -0700
                                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:53 -0500
                                Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-31 02:49 +0000
                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 20:29 -0700
                                    Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-31 15:07 +0000
                                      Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 09:16 -0700
                                        Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:27 -0500
                                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 09:31 -0700
                                          Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 11:37 -0500
                                          Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-31 17:49 +0000
                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 10:51 -0700
                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 14:29 -0500
                                          Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:57 -0700
                                        Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:52 -0700
                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 17:06 -0700
                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkin_odd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 14:10 +0000
                                              Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 07:20 -0700
                                                Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:04 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 18:10 -0400
                                                    Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 21:43 -0700
                                                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 13:29 -0500
                            get out of the fryingpan! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 23:02 -0700
                              get out of the fryingpan! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 07:17 -0700
                                Re: get out of the fryingpan! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 09:57 -0500
                                  Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 17:31 -0400
                                    The only way HVAC <Harlowcampbell@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 16:03 -0400
                                      The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:07 -0700
                                        Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 11:24 -0500
                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:36 -0700
                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 11:51 -0500
                                            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-03 22:19 +0000
                                              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-03 19:52 -0400
                                        The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:26 -0700
                                          Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 11:43 -0500
                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:51 -0700
                                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:00 -0500
                                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 10:03 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 10:13 -0700
                                                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 10:23 -0700
                                                      Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 10:26 -0700
                                                        Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 09:50 -0700
                                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:33 -0500
                                                      Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:46 -0700
                                                        Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 15:26 -0500
                                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 14:29 -0700
                                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 11:52 -0500
                                                              Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 11:46 -0700
                                                                Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:52 -0400
                                                              Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 16:39 -0700
                                                                way-ary noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 16:51 -0700
                                                          Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-03 18:27 -0400
                                                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:30 -0500
                                                way-ary noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 19:15 -0700
                                                  way-ary john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 19:48 -0700
                                                  way-ary john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 19:51 -0700
                                              Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 10:13 -0700
                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:57 -0700
                                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:02 -0500
                                      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 11:22 -0500
                                      Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-03 18:31 -0400
                                        Re: The only way erickawilliams.d@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 18:23 -0700
                                        Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 18:25 -0700
                                          Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:25 -0400
                                            Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 03:49 -0700
                                              Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 06:05 -0700
                                              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-05 18:30 -0400
                                                Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 17:35 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 10:11 -0700
                                        Re: The only way HVAC <Harlowcampbell@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 09:51 -0400
                                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 08:01 -0700
                                            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 10:03 -0500
                                            Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 08:52 -0700
                                              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-14 18:24 -0400
                                          Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-14 18:29 -0400
                                get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 08:58 -0700
                                  Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:20 -0400
                                    Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 17:07 -0700
                                      Re: get out of the fryingpan! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 17:25 -0700
                                        Re: get out of the fryingpan! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 13:30 -0500
                                          Re: get out of the fryingpan! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 13:01 -0700
                                            Re: get out of the fryingpan! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 14:13 -0700
                                              Re: get out of the fryingpan! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:49 -0500
                                            Re: get out of the fryingpan! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 09:27 -0500
                                      Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 21:22 -0400
                                        Space has structure john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:25 -0700
                                          Re: Space has structure benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 21:45 -0400
                                            Re: Space has structure Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:51 -0700
                                              Re: Space has structure HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 03:01 -0700
                                                Re: Space has structure benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 17:41 -0400
                                                  Re: Space has structure Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 21:34 -0700
                                                    Re: Space has structure "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-04-01 22:30 -0700
                                                      Re: Space has structure Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 07:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Space has structure "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2017-04-03 15:03 -0700
                                                          Re: Space has structure Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 10:30 -0700
                                                    Re: Space has structure noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 22:33 -0700
                                          Re: Space has structure Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:48 -0700
                                          Re: Space has structure moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-01 03:40 +0000
                                Re: get out of the fryingpan! Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:22 -0700
                                  Re: get out of the fryingpan! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:49 -0700
                                Re: get out of the fryingpan! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 22:19 -0700
                                Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 17:21 -0400
                                  Re: get out of the fryingpan! Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 21:06 -0700
                                    Re: get out of the fryingpan! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-02 05:22 -0700
                                      Re: get out of the fryingpan! Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 07:26 -0700
                                        Re: get out of the fryingpan! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:21 -0700
                                          Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 18:08 -0700
                                            Re: get out of the fryingpan! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 18:46 -0700
                                              Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 02:43 -0700
                                                Re: get out of the fryingpan! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 05:08 -0700
                                                  Re: get out of the fryingpan! john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 06:35 -0700
                                                    Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 07:09 -0700
                                                      Re: get out of the fryingpan! HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 11:46 -0700
                                                        Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:53 -0400
                                                      Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:44 -0400
                                                    Re: get out of the fryingpan! Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 07:29 -0700
                                                      Re: get out of the fryingpan! noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-04-04 07:47 -0700
                                                    Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:42 -0400
                                              Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 19:28 -0400
                                            Re: get out of the fryingpan! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-04 20:50 -0400
                          Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-30 16:35 -0400
                      Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 10:40 -0700
                        Re: The only way benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:19 -0400
                          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 16:47 -0700
                            Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 08:11 -0700
                          Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 09:47 -0700
                            Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-04-01 18:08 -0400
                              Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 13:09 -0700
                Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:08 -0400
          Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:02 -0400
      Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:06 -0700
      Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 15:50 -0400
    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:30 -0500
      Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 05:51 -0700
        Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 13:19 +0000
          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 06:24 -0700
            Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:31 -0500
              Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 06:53 -0700
                Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:45 -0500
                  Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:12 -0400
                  Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 18:15 -0700
                  Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-29 17:29 -0700
                Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:46 -0700
            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 15:10 +0000
          Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:10 -0700
          Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:42 -0700
        Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:29 -0500
          Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:13 -0700
        Re: The only way Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-28 08:33 -0500
          Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 07:11 -0700
            Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 14:58 +0000
          Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 08:18 -0700
            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:31 -0700
              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:46 -0500
              Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-28 16:30 +0000
              Re: The only way noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:47 -0700
            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 08:36 -0700
              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:48 -0500
                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 09:23 -0700
                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:40 -0500
                    Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:27 -0700
                      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 12:34 -0500
                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:39 -0700
                          Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 13:01 -0500
                      Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 12:37 -0500
                        Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 10:50 -0700
                          Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 13:02 -0500
                          Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 11:03 -0700
                            Re: The only way HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 14:04 -0700
                              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 17:42 -0400
                          Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 16:24 -0400
                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 14:06 -0700
                              Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 18:01 -0400
                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 17:19 -0500
                                Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 18:35 -0400
                                  Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 15:48 -0700
                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 18:13 -0500
                                      Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 19:21 -0400
                                        Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 16:31 -0700
                                          Re: The only way Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 17:38 -0700
                                          Re: The only way Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2017-03-28 19:56 -0500
                                          Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 09:31 -0500
                                            Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 07:48 -0700
                                              Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-29 15:38 +0000
                                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 09:10 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-29 19:09 +0000
                                                    Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:08 -0500
                                              Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:09 -0500
                                                Re: The only way john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 13:42 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:57 -0500
                                                    dimers don't do this noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 14:16 -0700
                                                  Re: The only way moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-03-29 21:47 +0000
                                            Re: The only way benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 23:50 -0400
                                              Re: The only way poraty350@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 01:32 -0700
                                    Re: The only way benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2017-03-28 19:28 -0400
                              Re: The only way Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 15:58 -0700

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#626225

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 09:15 -0700
Message-ID<8277d26d-bf22-426e-9b7c-b2dd7f2120b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626224
See, HVAC?
I put up.
So I don't have to shut up?

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#626284

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-01 22:12 +0000
Message-ID<obp8kd$83r$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#626225
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>See, HVAC?
>I put up.
>So I don't have to shut up?

No you didn't.  You just put up an OCD-fueled animation of a bunch of
retarded precessing spinny things, that you were able to get to dance in
a certain way.  You have never explained *why* you believe that dancing
retarded spinny things explain anything better than anything else,
including the delocalized pz orbital theory currently favored.  You
somehow object to the notion of "delocalized" electrons, but yet again,
you never offered a reason. You can't show how dancing spinny things
explain benzene chemistry better than the delocalized pz orbital theory
(which *does* offer an explanation of benzene chemistry).

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#626288

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 15:19 -0700
Message-ID<0fda8f0c-12ec-41d5-84a5-315c607e6f31@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626284
MM
"(which *does* offer an explanation of benzene chemistry). "
Not surprisingly, since being delocalised,
they're a sweet little "wild card". Don't you
get tired of Fantasy Phyics, where virtual
stuff pops in wherever needed?

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#626292

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 15:32 -0700
Message-ID<54e3775f-1237-4199-a226-bcf659ea80bb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626288
Odd, Odd
Why don't you like MY standing wave?
There are only two slots that will do what
those two yellows are doing. They are exactly
opposite at all times, they rotate 1/2 precess.
What do you fucking want, man?

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#626575

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-03 08:41 -0500
Message-ID<obtjdp$jkk$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#626292
On 4/1/2017 5:32 PM, john wrote:
> Odd, Odd
> Why don't you like MY standing wave?

Because it makes none of the quantitative predictions -- and I mean none 
-- that quantum mechanics does that happen to agree superbly with 
measurement.

I'll repeat for you John: In SCIENCE, the value of an idea is based 
ENTIRELY on how well its predicted numbers match the numbers that come 
in measurement. There is NO OTHER meaningful sign of value, at least in 
science. "Pretty" does not enter into it. Being "exactly opposite" has 
no value. Looking symmetric has no value.

You just like your ideas for reasons that are of absolutely ZERO 
interest to science.

> There are only two slots that will do what
> those two yellows are doing. They are exactly
> opposite at all times, they rotate 1/2 precess.
> What do you fucking want, man?
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#626294

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 15:36 -0700
Message-ID<763a1e2a-2cc5-4f02-9b1e-4c489dd09621@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626288
Odd
They're distributed: on a disc, as are the protons and everything. The disc is locked in this special 1:2
standing wave. What. The. Fuck. More. Do. You. Want?

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#626295

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 15:45 -0700
Message-ID<b018b58c-b9f3-4746-b127-45b79fae9b8c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626294
MM, Odd
The disc sweeps out a complete sphere 
twice per orbital cycle, meaning the atom
is mostly Space all the time, and also it
explains some things about orienting
electrons
What. More. Do. You. Flicking. Want?

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#626315

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-02 00:25 +0000
Message-ID<obpgdo$9n7$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#626295
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>What. More. Do. You. Flicking. Want?

Something that's not totally retarded, for a start.

Give us some sort of reason why retarded precessing spinny things somehow
offer an advantage over other theories.  Oh, and without disadvantages,
like violating HUP, violating conservation of momentum, not radiating
their energy away, etc. etc. etc.

Oh, you claim producing spheres as some sort of advantage.  First, they
are not spheres. You've produced the path that an electron would take if
it was attached to one of your retarded precessing disks, it's a well
defined path, not the surface of a sphere.  Second, atoms without filled
outer orbitals are not spherical.  Third, the wave diagrams/probability
functions, when ones for a particular shell are all full, produce a
spherical atom.  (for example, all "s" orbitals are already spherically
symmetric. "p" orbitals are not, but if you combine three of them at right
angles to each other, the resulting sum *is* spherically symmetric. Same
with 5 "d" orbitals etc.)

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#626325

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 18:11 -0700
Message-ID<3a9e43b6-a9c3-41f1-be6c-46e06e9060ef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626315
MM
"angles to each other, the resulting sum *is* spherically symmetric. Same "

So- your Nobel gases are pretty spherical?

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#626332

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-02 01:54 +0000
Message-ID<obplkl$35i$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#626325
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"angles to each other, the resulting sum *is* spherically symmetric. Same "

>So- your Nobel gases are pretty spherical?

They are.

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#626326

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 18:15 -0700
Message-ID<777d4a9e-0ee4-4ffc-88be-66838ef9c2ef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626315
MM
"john <johnse...@gmail.com> writes: 

>What. More. Do. You. Flicking. Want? 

Something that's not totally retarded, for a start. 

Give us some sort of reason why retarded precessing spinny things somehow 
offer an advantage over other theories.  "

They're not "things".
They're discs.
And they're beautiful!
:/

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#626329

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 18:24 -0700
Message-ID<eff7563d-82d9-40eb-9f0c-cdc1d6e588b4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626326
MM 
"john <johnse...@gmail.com> writes: 

>What. More. Do. You. Flicking. Want? 

Something that's not totally retarded, for a start. 

Give us some sort of reason why retarded precessing spinny things somehow 
offer an advantage over other theories.  " 

______________\\_

They , if correct, give us precise 3D 
control of matter.
We will be able to NOT cut, but divide magnetically 
volcanic rock of different colours and make
15 stories-high stone building murals.

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#626330

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 18:30 -0700
Message-ID<01b6dfcf-96a8-465f-b9fb-91eea162eebf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626329
They, if correct,
allow us to turn transparency fields
on and off, eliminating the need to use windows,
and eliminating anyone's seeing in, etc

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#626580

FromOdd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-03 08:47 -0500
Message-ID<obtjpa$jkk$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#626330
On 4/1/2017 8:30 PM, john wrote:
> They, if correct,
> allow us to turn transparency fields

You spinning discs give no accounting for transparency, let alone how to 
alter a substance from opaque to transparent.

Your mind has veered off into freeform fantasy land.

> on and off, eliminating the need to use windows,
> and eliminating anyone's seeing in, etc
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#626340

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-02 03:44 +0000
Message-ID<obps25$5bj$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#626329
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM 
>"john <johnse...@gmail.com> writes: 

>>What. More. Do. You. Flicking. Want? 

>Something that's not totally retarded, for a start. 

>Give us some sort of reason why retarded precessing spinny things somehow 
>offer an advantage over other theories.  " 

>______________\\_

>They , if correct, give us precise 3D 
>control of matter.
>We will be able to NOT cut, but divide magnetically 
>volcanic rock of different colours and make
>15 stories-high stone building murals.

Kookbabble.

Regardless, show some reason why retarded precessing spinny things somehow
explain what we actually see and test for (such as physical and
chemical behavior of atoms)  Such as why is CCl4 tetrahedral but the
(PtCl4)-- ion is square planar? And the PtCl4 compound (no 2- charge) is 
octahedral?

Better yet, a true scientific experiment.  If retarded precessing spinny
things are fact, and you do Q, you will see X.  If there are no retarded
precessing spinny things, if you do Q, you will see Y.

So.... why believe in retarded precessing spinny things?  Not hopes for
kooky dividing up volcanic rocks, but "we see X if you do Q" types of
observations.  Why believe in what you believe?

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#626352

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-01 22:07 -0700
Message-ID<400ae37c-07c9-4c3c-bb6a-06ea5e8e93c3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626340
MM
"
Better yet, a true scientific experiment.  If retarded precessing spinny "
Analyze the Galactic Rotation curve data, and instead
of averaging to smooth out the asymmetry,
find out what amount of precession 
would account for that. Try twice the rotation, first.
Sound good?

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#626386

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-02 13:45 +0000
Message-ID<obqv9j$293$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#626352
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"
>Better yet, a true scientific experiment.  If retarded precessing spinny "
>Analyze the Galactic Rotation curve data, and instead
>of averaging to smooth out the asymmetry,
>find out what amount of precession 
>would account for that. Try twice the rotation, first.
>Sound good?

I already told you.  Light data has already ruled out any auch retarded
precession.

(not to mention the obvious question of where the enormous force/torque
necessary would come from. Plus galaxies don't rotate as a solid mass)

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#626387

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-02 07:12 -0700
Message-ID<7121ac42-d422-4e40-bfb2-7b3c757562e6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626386
MM
"


(not to mention the obvious question of where the enormous force/torque 
necessary would come from. Plus galaxies don't rotate as a solid mass) "
If they don't rotate as a solid mass, what
enormous torque?

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#626396

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2017-04-02 15:51 +0000
Message-ID<obr6ml$ck0$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#626387
john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>MM
>"


>(not to mention the obvious question of where the enormous force/torque 
>necessary would come from. Plus galaxies don't rotate as a solid mass) "
>If they don't rotate as a solid mass, what
>enormous torque?

To move the individual stars, silly.

Of course, as it's not a solid mass, it won't precess anyway.

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#626400

Fromjohn <johnsefton288@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-02 09:23 -0700
Message-ID<cb1d9148-924a-4a0c-b7d0-ebea307a6c16@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#626396
MM
"To move the individual stars, silly. 

Of course, as it's not a solid mass, it won't precess anyway. "

Why do you need energy to move them
if they're already moving?
You don't need it to move electrons, according to you.

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