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Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?

Started byMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
First post2025-11-30 13:38 +0100
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  Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:38 +0100
    An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:54 +0100
    An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 13:55 +0100
      What is analog computing nowadays? (Re: An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 11:25 +0100
        Wake-up call until everybody gets ear-bleeding (Re: What is analog computing nowadays?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 12:01 +0100
          BB(745) is independent of ZFC (Was: Wake-up call until everybody gets ear-bleeding) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 12:07 +0100
            Write ZFC formulas on a tape (of a Turing machine) (Re: BB(745) is independent of ZFC ) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:18 +0100
              Turing machines have neurons (Re: Write ZFC formulas on a tape (of a Turing machine)) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:19 +0100
                A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943] (Re: Turing machines have neurons) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:20 +0100
                  Busy Beaver and Theory Consistency (Was: A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:39 +0100
                  Busy Beaver and Theory Consistency (Was: A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 17:43 +0100
                    Re: Busy Beaver and Theory Consistency (Was: A logical calculus in nervous activity [McCulloch & Pitts 1943]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 23:18 +0100
        Re: What is analog computing nowadays? (Re: An old Busy Beaver ASIC (Application-Specific Integrated Circuit) (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-01 12:09 +0100
          parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 12:15 +0100
            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-01 13:23 +0100
              Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction (Was: parallel random-access machine) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 17:12 +0100
                Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD (Niu et al., 2011) (Was: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 17:31 +0100
                  PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc.. (Was: Algorithm introduced in Hogwild! SGD) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:02 +0100
                Re: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction (Was: parallel random-access machine) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-01 17:59 +0100
                  PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc.. (Re: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:05 +0100
                  PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc.. (Re: Nope, you can't, because of the CRCW instuction) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:08 +0100
                    Physics more difficult than Rasperry LED cube? (Was: PRAMs might be closer to physics: Boltzman machines, etc..) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-01 18:25 +0100
              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is analog computing nowadays?) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-03 07:17 +0100
                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM (Was: What is  analog computing nowadays?) Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2025-12-03 06:46 +0000
                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-03 08:02 +0100
                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-04 07:50 +0100
                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-04 09:57 +0100
                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-06 17:02 +0100
                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:22 +0100
                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:39 +0100
                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-07 10:46 +0100
                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-07 11:42 +0100
                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-07 16:26 +0200
                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-08 04:25 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-08 08:51 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-08 13:58 +0200
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-09 09:15 +0100
                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0100
                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:06 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-09 09:19 +0100
                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-09 11:43 -0800
                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-10 08:19 +0100
                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-10 09:56 +0100
                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-10 10:01 -0800
                                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-11 09:02 +0100
                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-11 08:48 -0800
                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-12 01:58 +0100
                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-11 20:45 -0800
                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-11 23:07 -0800
                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-12 00:49 -0800
                                            Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-14 14:27 +0100
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 10:25 -0800
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-14 21:22 +0100
                                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 12:52 -0800
                                                  I have a great idea The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 13:11 -0800
                                                  Einstein refrigerator (was: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-15 03:00 +0100
                                                    Re: Einstein refrigerator (was: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 19:46 -0800
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 10:27 -0800
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-14 10:58 -0800
                                              Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-15 07:50 +0100
                                                Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-15 14:05 +0100
                                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-16 08:44 +0100
                                                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-16 22:58 +0100
                                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-17 08:50 +0100
                                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-17 14:00 +0100
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-17 10:49 -0800
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-17 11:23 -0800
                                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-17 14:24 +0100
                                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-18 22:13 -0800
                                                          Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-19 12:02 -0800
                                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-17 18:24 +0100
                                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2025-12-17 11:58 -0600
                                        Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-12-12 07:19 +0100
                                      Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-12-12 11:35 +0100
                                  Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-18 06:49 +0000
                    Re: parallel random-access machine (parallel RAM or PRAM) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-06 05:30 +0100
    Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-11-30 14:06 +0100
      You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 22:27 +0100
        Its a subconscious hypothesis (Was: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 22:33 +0100
          What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious hypothesis) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-30 22:43 +0100
            Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious hypothesis) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-01 23:43 +0100
            Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-01 23:45 +0100
              newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:00 +0100
                Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the  cosmos does a BB dance?) Python <python@cccp.invalid> - 2025-12-02 03:10 +0000
                  Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 11:51 +0100
                    Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-02 20:36 +0100
                  Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 21:42 -0800
                    Orbits of planets in the Sol System (was: newsreader where you can see the message source) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-04 03:29 +0100
                    Orbits of planets in the Sol System Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-04 03:30 +0100
                Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-02 20:35 +0100
                  Spock thinks I am interested in his gibberish (Re: newsreader where you can see the message source) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 23:22 +0100
                    Is it like "Wirres Mückengelaber" ? (Was: Spock thinks I am interested in his gibberish) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 23:28 +0100
              newsreader where you can see the message source (Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:11 +0100
              Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-03 07:22 +0100
                Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-12-03 08:27 -0800
                  Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-12-04 07:57 +0100
          Re: Its a subconscious hypothesis (Was: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-11-30 23:14 +0100
        Re: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-01 23:23 +0100
          Re: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-02 00:05 +0100
            Re: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-02 20:29 +0100
      What Spock aka Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn missed (Was: Different Hubble Theories: de Sitter Energy) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-03 01:09 +0100
    The size of a Gödel sentence G (Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-03 09:00 +0100
    The size of a Gödel sentence G (Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-03 09:00 +0100
      Attacking the Busy Beaver 5 [1989] (Re: The size of a Gödel sentence G) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-12-03 09:10 +0100
    Re: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:59 +0800

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#894606 — Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious hypothesis)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-01 23:43 +0100
SubjectRe: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious hypothesis)
Message-ID<10gl5ma$27mnu$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894588
Mild Shock wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^
Please repair this.

> What if the planets in certain galaxies
> form a turning machine.

They do not.

You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
to natural science.

Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
to *one* newsgroup set.

I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
rather quickly by people.

> Could Keppler

Johannes _Kepler_

> have modelled a 3 planet system.

Yes, he did, but not exactly.

> Can we model a 3 planet system now ?

Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox.
 But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.

There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for
the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large
mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass
and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an
asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.

And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not
actually ellipses, closed curves).

F'up2 sci.physics

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#894607 — Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-01 23:45 +0100
SubjectRe: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?
Message-ID<10gl5q9$27mnu$2@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894588
Mild Shock wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^
Please repair this.

> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
hypothesis)

The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
follow-up.

> What if the planets in certain galaxies
> form a turning machine.

They do not.

You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
to natural science.

Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
to *one* newsgroup set.

I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
rather quickly by people.

> Could Keppler

Johannes _Kepler_

> have modelled a 3 planet system.

Yes, he did, but not exactly.

> Can we model a 3 planet system now ?

Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox.
 But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.

There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for
the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large
mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass
and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an
asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.

And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not
actually ellipses, closed curves).

F'up2 sci.physics

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#894608 — newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-12-02 00:00 +0100
Subjectnewsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<10gl6lr$vuv1$1@solani.org>
In reply to#894607
Hi,

Don't you have a newsreader where you can
see the message source. You don't need more
information than Mild Shock in the message

body, you see everything in the message
headers. For example I see in your message:

From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822"; 
mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org"

So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
give advice how to format a USENET post, even
you are not able to see the message source,

of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
advice how to post.

Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.

Bye

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
> Mild Shock wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> Please repair this.
> 
>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
> hypothesis)
> 
> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
> follow-up.
> 
>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>> form a turning machine.
> 
> They do not.
> 
> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
> to natural science.
> 
> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
> to *one* newsgroup set.
> 
> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
> rather quickly by people.
> 
>> Could Keppler
> 
> Johannes _Kepler_
> 
>> have modelled a 3 planet system.
> 
> Yes, he did, but not exactly.
> 
>> Can we model a 3 planet system now ?
> 
> Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox.
>   But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.
> 
> There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for
> the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large
> mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass
> and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an
> asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
> comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.
> 
> And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
> additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not
> actually ellipses, closed curves).
> 
> F'up2 sci.physics
> 

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#894613 — Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromPython <python@cccp.invalid>
Date2025-12-02 03:10 +0000
SubjectRe: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<UdWZ19mwDODlddMuz2X7pRvKSvM@jntp>
In reply to#894608
Le 02/12/2025 à 00:00, Mild Shock a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Don't you have a newsreader where you can
> see the message source. You don't need more
> information than Mild Shock in the message
> 
> body, you see everything in the message
> headers. For example I see in your message:
> 
> From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
> Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822"; 
> mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org"
> 
> So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
> give advice how to format a USENET post, even
> you are not able to see the message source,
> 
> of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
> Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
> advice how to post.
> 
> Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
>> Mild Shock wrote:
>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>> Please repair this.
>> 
>>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
>> hypothesis)
>> 
>> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
>> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
>> follow-up.
>> 
>>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>>> form a turning machine.
>> 
>> They do not.
>> 
>> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
>> to natural science.
>> 
>> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
>> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
>> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
>> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
>> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
>> to *one* newsgroup set.
>> 
>> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
>> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
>> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
>> rather quickly by people.
>> 
>>> Could Keppler
>> 
>> Johannes _Kepler_
>> 
>>> have modelled a 3 planet system.
>> 
>> Yes, he did, but not exactly.
>> 
>>> Can we model a 3 planet system now ?
>> 
>> Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox.
>>   But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.
>> 
>> There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for
>> the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large
>> mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass
>> and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an
>> asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
>> comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.
>> 
>> And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
>> additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not
>> actually ellipses, closed curves).
>> 
>> F'up2 sci.physics
>> 

you're not going well, right?

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#894614 — Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-12-02 11:51 +0100
SubjectRe: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<10gmgb5$usn3$1@solani.org>
In reply to#894613
And here comes the next oneliner imbecil.
I wish the USENET was like 10 years ago,
where there were veritable cranks and trolls,

that wrote 2-3 page essays, that were interesting
and challenge to respond. Now its all autism,
and inquisitory questions. Everybody has his

brain amputated and fears making expositions.

So get lost, fuck yourself annonying moron.

Python schrieb:
> you're not going well, right?

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#894624 — Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-02 20:36 +0100
SubjectRe: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<10gnf44$2e7cc$2@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894614
Mild Shock wrote:
> And here comes the next oneliner imbecil.
> I wish the USENET was like 10 years ago,
> where there were veritable cranks and trolls,
> 
> that wrote 2-3 page essays, that were interesting
> and challenge to respond. Now its all autism,
> and inquisitory questions. Everybody has his
> 
> brain amputated and fears making expositions.
> 
> So get lost, fuck yourself annonying moron.

*PLONK*

-- 
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Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#894638 — Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromRoss Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date2025-12-01 21:42 -0800
SubjectRe: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<y7adndxwa7vu4bP0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#894613
On 12/01/2025 07:10 PM, Python wrote:
> Le 02/12/2025 à 00:00, Mild Shock a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Don't you have a newsreader where you can
>> see the message source. You don't need more
>> information than Mild Shock in the message
>>
>> body, you see everything in the message
>> headers. For example I see in your message:
>>
>> From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
>> Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822";
>> mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org"
>>
>> So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
>> give advice how to format a USENET post, even
>> you are not able to see the message source,
>>
>> of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
>> Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
>> advice how to post.
>>
>> Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
>>> Mild Shock wrote:
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>>> Please repair this.
>>>
>>>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a
>>>> subconscious
>>> hypothesis)
>>>
>>> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
>>> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on
>>> composing a
>>> follow-up.
>>>
>>>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>>>> form a turning machine.
>>>
>>> They do not.
>>>
>>> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer
>>> science
>>> to natural science.
>>>
>>> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new
>>> question, so
>>> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
>>> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
>>> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business
>>> communication, but
>>> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without
>>> Followup-To
>>> to *one* newsgroup set.
>>>
>>> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
>>> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
>>> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
>>> rather quickly by people.
>>>
>>>> Could Keppler
>>>
>>> Johannes _Kepler_
>>>
>>>> have modelled a 3 planet system.
>>>
>>> Yes, he did, but not exactly.
>>>
>>>> Can we model a 3 planet system now ?
>>>
>>> Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe
>>> Sandbox.
>>>   But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.
>>>
>>> There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a
>>> solution for
>>> the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a
>>> very large
>>> mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller
>>> mass
>>> and is very far away from the first object; and the third object.
>>> e.g. an
>>> asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
>>> comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.
>>>
>>> And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
>>> additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits
>>> are not
>>> actually ellipses, closed curves).
>>>
>>> F'up2 sci.physics
>>>
>
> you're not going well, right?
>
>

Perhaps we might ascribe it to typical brattiness, ....

That said I enjoy Lahn so it's of peripheral interest
notions like Kepler's banishment of epicycles and as
after about Bode's law then as for inverse square the
Keplerian geometric way then that the Newtonian "System
of the World" after the Keplerian "System of the World"
or Harmonisches Mundi after the Muslim "System of the
Heavens" and that, that, in the solar system today,
the force vector of gravity always points at the
source not the image, so, it's quite Newtonian and
even Galilean the current state of the solar system,
while it is yet so that space-contraction-linear and
space-contraction-rotational are in effect, as with
regards to a notion like "fall-gravity" of course.


I.e., Einstein's later "attack on Newton" is a matter
of mechanics itself as much as about relativity and
mass-energy-equivalency, getting into why the gyroscopic
effects as of the kinematic up after "pseudo"-momentum
and the space-contraction-rotational, has that Einstein's
second and much-less-well-known mass-energy-equivalency
derivation, about the centrally symmetric, helps establish
the concern overall as, "un-linear", for a potentialistic
theory and sum-of-potentials and revisiting the Lagrangian
the severe abstraction the mechanical reduction.

I don't even mind Python/Messager, ....


The pettiness, ..., the brattiness, ....

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#894641 — Orbits of planets in the Sol System (was: newsreader where you can see the message source)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-04 03:29 +0100
SubjectOrbits of planets in the Sol System (was: newsreader where you can see the message source)
Message-ID<10gqrll$2m2qk$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894638
Ross Finlayson wrote:
> notions like Kepler's banishment of epicycles and as
> after about Bode's law

The _Titius–Bode_ law (1766/1772) was proposed much later than Kepler (16th
century), obviously.  And to date nobody understands why it approximately
works for the Sol System:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius–Bode_law>

> then as for inverse square the Keplerian geometric way

Yes, Kepler's idea was that the "harmonics of the world" would be
represented by inscribed Platonic solids to determine the distances between
the orbits of the Planets.  However, he was scientist enough to accept
eventually that, given Tycho Brahe's detailed observations, the circular
orbits that resulted from that would not work: ellipses were required.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler#Astronomy>

> then that the Newtonian "System of the World" after
> the Keplerian "System of the World" or Harmonisches Mundi

_/harmonices mundi/_ (Latin for "_harmonics_ of the world")

> after the Muslim "System of the Heavens"

Doubtful.  Kepler was a devout Christian who sought to discover/understand
"God's design of the Universe".

> and that, that, in the solar system today,
> the force vector of gravity always points at the
> source not the image,

What is that supposed to mean?

> so, it's quite Newtonian

Only approximately, and that is where General Relativity fills the gap in
our understanding.  So far, only GR can explain, and predict very precisely,
the additional motion of the perihelion of orbits as, 200 years after
Newton, eventually become measurable with the orbit of Mercury.

> and even Galilean the current state of the solar system,

No.

> while it is yet so that space-contraction-linear and
> space-contraction-rotational are in effect,

Nonsense.

> as with regards to a notion like "fall-gravity" of course.
> 
> I.e., Einstein's later "attack on Newton" is a matter
> of mechanics itself as much as about relativity and
> mass-energy-equivalency, getting into why the gyroscopic
> effects as of the kinematic up after "pseudo"-momentum
> and the space-contraction-rotational, has that Einstein's
> second and much-less-well-known mass-energy-equivalency
> derivation, about the centrally symmetric, helps establish
> the concern overall as, "un-linear", for a potentialistic
> theory and sum-of-potentials and revisiting the Lagrangian
> the severe abstraction the mechanical reduction.

Pseudo-scientific word salad.

Sadly, your mind is still very confused.

F'up2 sci.physics.relativity
-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#894642 — Orbits of planets in the Sol System

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-04 03:30 +0100
SubjectOrbits of planets in the Sol System
Message-ID<10gqrns$2m2qk$2@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894638
Ross Finlayson wrote:
> notions like Kepler's banishment of epicycles and as
> after about Bode's law

The _Titius–Bode_ law (1766/1772) was proposed much later than Kepler (16th
century), obviously.  And to date nobody understands why it approximately
works for the Sol System:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius–Bode_law>

> then as for inverse square the Keplerian geometric way

Yes, Kepler's idea was that the "harmonics of the world" would be
represented by inscribed Platonic solids to determine the distances between
the orbits of the Planets.  However, he was scientist enough to accept
eventually that, given Tycho Brahe's detailed observations, the circular
orbits that resulted from that would not work: ellipses were required.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler#Astronomy>

> then that the Newtonian "System of the World" after
> the Keplerian "System of the World" or Harmonisches Mundi

_/harmonices mundi/_ (Latin for "_harmonics_ of the world")

> after the Muslim "System of the Heavens"

Doubtful.  Kepler was a devout Christian who sought to discover/understand
"God's design of the Universe".

> and that, that, in the solar system today,
> the force vector of gravity always points at the
> source not the image,

What is that supposed to mean?

> so, it's quite Newtonian

Only approximately, and that is where General Relativity fills the gap in
our understanding.  So far, only GR can explain, and predict very precisely,
the additional motion of the perihelion of orbits as, 200 years after
Newton, eventually became measurable with the orbit of Mercury.

> and even Galilean the current state of the solar system,

No.

> while it is yet so that space-contraction-linear and
> space-contraction-rotational are in effect,

Nonsense.

> as with regards to a notion like "fall-gravity" of course.
> 
> I.e., Einstein's later "attack on Newton" is a matter
> of mechanics itself as much as about relativity and
> mass-energy-equivalency, getting into why the gyroscopic
> effects as of the kinematic up after "pseudo"-momentum
> and the space-contraction-rotational, has that Einstein's
> second and much-less-well-known mass-energy-equivalency
> derivation, about the centrally symmetric, helps establish
> the concern overall as, "un-linear", for a potentialistic
> theory and sum-of-potentials and revisiting the Lagrangian
> the severe abstraction the mechanical reduction.

Pseudo-scientific word salad.

Sadly, your mind is still very confused.

F'up2 sci.physics.relativity
-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#894623 — Re: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-02 20:35 +0100
SubjectRe: newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<10gnf24$2e7cc$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894608
Mild Shock wrote:
> Don't you have a newsreader where you can see the message source.

I do.  In fact, I happen to use one of the same family of newsreaders as
you, if the User-Agent header field of your messages is not forged.

> You don't need more information than Mild Shock in the message

Wrong.  Politeness suggests that one introduces oneself to strangers by
telling them one's real name.  This is Usenet, not a chat group.

> body, you see everything in the message headers.

You should try that next time before you complain:

Followup-To poster *again*

> [top post]

*facepalm*

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PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
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#894627 — Spock thinks I am interested in his gibberish (Re: newsreader where you can see the message source)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-12-02 23:22 +0100
SubjectSpock thinks I am interested in his gibberish (Re: newsreader where you can see the message source)
Message-ID<10gnoqv$11ioa$1@solani.org>
In reply to#894623
Hi,

Since I am top posting, and not interleaved posting,
and hence not responding to your gibberish. What makes
you think I am interested in your gibberish?

Could you explain yourself?

Bye

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
> Mild Shock wrote:
>> Don't you have a newsreader where you can see the message source.
> 
> I do.  In fact, I happen to use one of the same family of newsreaders as
> you, if the User-Agent header field of your messages is not forged.
> 
>> You don't need more information than Mild Shock in the message
> 
> Wrong.  Politeness suggests that one introduces oneself to strangers by
> telling them one's real name.  This is Usenet, not a chat group.
> 
>> body, you see everything in the message headers.
> 
> You should try that next time before you complain:
> 
> Followup-To poster *again*
> 
>> [top post]
> 
> *facepalm*
> 

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#894628 — Is it like "Wirres Mückengelaber" ? (Was: Spock thinks I am interested in his gibberish)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-12-02 23:28 +0100
SubjectIs it like "Wirres Mückengelaber" ? (Was: Spock thinks I am interested in his gibberish)
Message-ID<10gnp74$11ioa$3@solani.org>
In reply to#894627
Hi,

de.sci.mathematik has an interesting thread
"Wirres Mückengelaber" . Ist Spock aka
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn the equivalent

of Prof. Mückeheim, only in sci.physics.relativity.

Could be, who knows? Do you need some medication...

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I am top posting, and not interleaved posting,
> and hence not responding to your gibberish. What makes
> you think I am interested in your gibberish?
> 
> Could you explain yourself?
> 
> Bye
> 
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
>> Mild Shock wrote:
>>> Don't you have a newsreader where you can see the message source.
>>
>> I do.  In fact, I happen to use one of the same family of newsreaders as
>> you, if the User-Agent header field of your messages is not forged.
>>
>>> You don't need more information than Mild Shock in the message
>>
>> Wrong.  Politeness suggests that one introduces oneself to strangers by
>> telling them one's real name.  This is Usenet, not a chat group.
>>
>>> body, you see everything in the message headers.
>>
>> You should try that next time before you complain:
>>
>> Followup-To poster *again*
>>
>>> [top post]
>>
>> *facepalm*
>>
> 

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#894610 — newsreader where you can see the message source (Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-12-02 00:11 +0100
Subjectnewsreader where you can see the message source (Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?)
Message-ID<10gl7a4$u42u$2@solani.org>
In reply to#894607
Hi,

Don't you have a newsreader where you can
see the message source. You don't need more
information than Mild Shock in the message

body, you see everything in the message
headers. For example I see in your message:

From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars @ web.de>
Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822"; 
mail-complaints-to="abuse @ open-news-network.org"

So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
give advice how to format a USENET post, even
you are not able to see the message source,

of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
advice how to post.

Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.

Bye

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
> Mild Shock wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> Please repair this.
> 
>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
> hypothesis)
> 
> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
> follow-up.
> 
>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>> form a turning machine.
> 
> They do not.
> 
> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
> to natural science.
> 
> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
> to *one* newsgroup set.
> 
> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
> rather quickly by people.
> 
>> Could Keppler
> 
> Johannes _Kepler_
> 
>> have modelled a 3 planet system.
> 
> Yes, he did, but not exactly.
> 
>> Can we model a 3 planet system now ?
> 
> Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox.
>   But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.
> 
> There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for
> the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large
> mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass
> and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an
> asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
> comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.
> 
> And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
> additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not
> actually ellipses, closed curves).
> 
> F'up2 sci.physics
> 

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#894632 — Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-12-03 07:22 +0100
SubjectRe: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?
Message-ID<mpa2stFhnntU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#894607
Am Montag000001, 01.12.2025 um 23:45 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> Mild Shock wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> Please repair this.
> 
>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
> hypothesis)
> 
> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
> follow-up.
> 
>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>> form a turning machine.
> 
> They do not.
> 
> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
> to natural science.
> 
> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
> to *one* newsgroup set.
> 
> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
> rather quickly by people.
> 
>> Could Keppler
> 
> Johannes _Kepler_

Sure.

Btw: once and many years ago I had neighbors, who had the name 'Kepler' 
and were actually the grand-grand-grand-somethings of Johannes Kepler.

They were actually the main reason, why I had decided to become 
interested in physics.

TH


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#894639 — Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-12-03 08:27 -0800
SubjectRe: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?
Message-ID<42p0jk1ps7f7129ij8u9pjv3f2rqav3pma@4ax.com>
In reply to#894632
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 07:22:11 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>Am Montag000001, 01.12.2025 um 23:45 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
>> Mild Shock wrote:
>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>> Please repair this.
>> 
>>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
>> hypothesis)
>> 
>> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
>> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
>> follow-up.
>> 
>>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>>> form a turning machine.
>> 
>> They do not.
>> 
>> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
>> to natural science.
>> 
>> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
>> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
>> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
>> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
>> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
>> to *one* newsgroup set.
>> 
>> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
>> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
>> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
>> rather quickly by people.
>> 
>>> Could Keppler
>> 
>> Johannes _Kepler_
>
>Sure.
>
>Btw: once and many years ago I had neighbors, who had the name 'Kepler' 
>and were actually the grand-grand-grand-somethings of Johannes Kepler.
>
>They were actually the main reason, why I had decided to become 
>interested in physics.
>
>TH
>
>

If your neighbor was Aldoph Hitler you'd probably be posting from
Argentina right now...Dr. Heger!
-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#894647 — Re: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-12-04 07:57 +0100
SubjectRe: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance?
Message-ID<mpcpbvF147lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#894639
Am Mittwoch000003, 03.12.2025 um 17:27 schrieb The Starmaker:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 07:22:11 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> Am Montag000001, 01.12.2025 um 23:45 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
>>> Mild Shock wrote:
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>>> Please repair this.
>>>
>>>> Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
>>> hypothesis)
>>>
>>> The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)".  Then some
>>> newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a
>>> follow-up.
>>>
>>>> What if the planets in certain galaxies
>>>> form a turning machine.
>>>
>>> They do not.
>>>
>>> You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
>>> to natural science.
>>>
>>> Also, you should learn how to post.  This was a completely new question, so
>>> you should not have posted it as a follow-up.  Also, you should not have
>>> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
>>> previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but
>>> not in Usenet.  It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To
>>> to *one* newsgroup set.
>>>
>>> I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
>>> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
>>> the communication medium that you are using here.  Lest you be killfiled
>>> rather quickly by people.
>>>
>>>> Could Keppler
>>>
>>> Johannes _Kepler_
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> Btw: once and many years ago I had neighbors, who had the name 'Kepler'
>> and were actually the grand-grand-grand-somethings of Johannes Kepler.
>>
>> They were actually the main reason, why I had decided to become
>> interested in physics.
>>
>> TH
>>
>>
> 
> If your neighbor was Aldoph Hitler you'd probably be posting from
> Argentina right now...Dr. Heger!

Why don't you say, that 'Hitler' was my grand-grand-father?

That's actually possible, because we had something called 'Lebensborn' 
in Germany, where 'Arians' were supposed to produce a 'Superrace'.

The best 'producer' was allegedly the 'Fuehrer' himself.

He could eventually have fathered hundreds of children and nobody would 
know.

Some children are known, however:

https://www.mimikama.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/2020-01-21-12_57_34-12-Recherche-_-Mimikama-Redaktion.jpg


TH


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#894589 — Re: Its a subconscious hypothesis (Was: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services)

FromMaciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-11-30 23:14 +0100
SubjectRe: Its a subconscious hypothesis (Was: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services)
Message-ID<187ce898e6eb3a39$26534748$2534374$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#894587
On 11/30/2025 10:33 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Well I even don't know why I came up with
> the NPM hack hypothesis. Saw something
> on youtube. Maybe they just do maintenance.
> 
> In the coming age of analog computing,
> symbolic logic means nothing:
> 
> “The high data-rate sense perception and
> identification abilities of the human system
> mostly bypass verbal/analytic awareness. We
>   are generally conscious of a cognitive
> recognition after the fact. In this way, what
> we understand as consciousness has to be
> identified as a reflexive monitoring ability
> with quite limited application. To produce
> consciousness (artificial or otherwise) we
> are stepping down, not up.”

Consciousness is not to enhance the
abilities of a brain, it's for linking
brains into a network. Mainly.

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#894605 — Re: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?)

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-01 23:23 +0100
SubjectRe: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?)
Message-ID<10gl4gr$27lcp$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894586
Mild Shock amok-crossposted over 3 newsgroups:
> 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
> https://stackoverflow.com/users/855543/pointedears
> 
> LoL

So your point is that StackOverflow had a server problem at the time?

What does that have to do with me?

You appear to have a mental problem instead.  Which part of "please do not
crosspost mindlessly" did not you not understand?

F'up2 poster

-- 
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Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#894609 — Re: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?)

FromMild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Date2025-12-02 00:05 +0100
SubjectRe: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services (Was: Could AlphaEvolve find the sixth busy beaver ?)
Message-ID<10gl706$vv6g$1@solani.org>
In reply to#894605
Hi,

 > Which part of "please do not crosspost mindlessly"

The part that your message header contains a crossposting:

From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,comp.theory,sci.physics
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 23:23:24 +0100
Organization: PointedEars Software (PES)

Maybe get a decend news reader before you give advice how to post.

Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.

Bye

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
> Mild Shock amok-crossposted over 3 newsgroups:
>> 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
>> https://stackoverflow.com/users/855543/pointedears
>>
>> LoL
> 
> So your point is that StackOverflow had a server problem at the time?
> 
> What does that have to do with me?
> 
> You appear to have a mental problem instead.  Which part of "please do not
> crosspost mindlessly" did not you not understand?
> 
> F'up2 poster
> 

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#894622 — Re: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2025-12-02 20:29 +0100
SubjectRe: You shouldn't use NPM hacked services
Message-ID<10gnen7$2e6nm$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#894609
Mild Shock wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^
Your *real* name should be found there.

> > Which part of "please do not crosspost mindlessly"
> 
> The part that your message header contains a crossposting:
> 
> From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,comp.theory,sci.physics
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 23:23:24 +0100
> Organization: PointedEars Software (PES)
>  
> Maybe get a decend news reader before you give advice how to post.

It was a crosspost _deliberately with Followup-To set_ *in order to contain
your crosspost*:

| Followup-To: poster

That is why your newsreader

> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.22

told you that I ask for replies by private e-mail.  Your ignoring that is a
violation of Netiquette.

> Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.
I have been using Usenet for more than 3 decades now.

But the September never ends...  So just "Score adjusted" for now:

<http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing>

F'up2 poster again

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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