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Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 10:05 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 12:34 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 21:47 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:20 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 14:24 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:40 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 22:11 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 16:39 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:05 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:11 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:15 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:23 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-01-27 11:13 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-25 22:50 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 22:10 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-25 23:25 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 22:30 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-26 07:47 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:42 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-26 21:02 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:34 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-26 23:46 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-01 23:28 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-02 08:34 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-02 11:39 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-02-02 11:13 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-02-02 21:30 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-02-03 02:38 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-02-02 13:41 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-25 14:56 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:31 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 02:33 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 18:58 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:14 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:23 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:39 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-01-25 21:47 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:33 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 21:44 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 21:35 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 05:45 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 22:08 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-23 22:47 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:12 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:30 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:05 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:04 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:31 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:53 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 12:43 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-26 15:16 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-27 11:02 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 18:05 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:26 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:28 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 22:40 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-23 15:06 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 23:37 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-23 23:45 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 00:21 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-24 03:19 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 04:14 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 04:26 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 04:25 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-24 07:21 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:44 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-24 14:44 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-24 21:51 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-24 14:46 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:03 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-01-25 21:22 +0000
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-24 09:06 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:14 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-25 07:53 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-24 10:29 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 12:55 -0600
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-25 07:54 +0100
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-25 09:44 -0800
Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-25 13:04 -0600
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 03:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4e4c7a61a7f714116feee7682e7802d8@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >> >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>> >>> >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>> monopoly'. >>> >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>> >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>> >>> >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>> >>> >>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>> >>> >>> >> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. > > Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. Abuse of maths from wrong analysis of experiments form the basis of "modern" physics now debunked thanks to Arindam. Woof woof woof woof woof woof Bertietaylor
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 04:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ecd7c5b4cf1aa352ebe287b2bb75704d@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
My comments haven't been posted so pardon some redundancy: Do you think the experiments have proven that parallel lines meet? They would have to meet for space to curve. You are not addressing the issue, which is not the experiments but the derivation. Experiments cannot prove the derivation is sound. I have shown it is not sound and cannot predict. The Einstein equation merely differs from the Newtonian by changing the "2" into a "4." The problem is that it is a non-Euclidean curved space. That is fiction.
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 04:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <754a3625ce498f9d626330e3567a1d18@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
Do you think the experiments have proven that parallel lines meet? They would have to meet for space to curve. You are not addressing the issue, which is not the experiments but the derivation. Experiments cannot prove the derivation is sound. I have shown it is not sound and cannot predict. The Einstein equation merely differs from the Newtonian by changing the "2" into a "4." The problem is that it is a non-Euclidean curved space. That is fiction.
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 04:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e89f10f5b5eaac5674ecdd1f60417cd5@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
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| From | Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 07:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <181d8cad7568ae54$7339$1407297$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
W dniu 24.01.2025 o 00:06, Jim Pennino pisze: > In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >> >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>> >>> >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>> monopoly'. >>> >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>> >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>> >>> >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>> >>> >>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>> >>> >>> >> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. > > Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. Speaking about math - it's always good to remind that your bunch of idiots had to deny its oldest, very important and successful part - as it didn't want to fit the madness of your idiot guru. > >
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 21:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <19f4c836529c5e5ee48b20b9f211a748@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >> >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>> >>> >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>> monopoly'. >>> >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>> >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>> >>> >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>> >>> >>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>> >>> >>> >> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. > > Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. Certainly, the simple logic is beyond your comprehension. Do you think the experiments have proven that parallel lines meet? They would have to meet for space to curve. You are not addressing the issue, which is not the experiments, but the derivation. Experiments cannot prove the derivation is sound. I have shown it is not sound and cannot predict. The Einstein equation merely differs from the Newtonian by changing the "2" into a "4." The problem is that it is a non-Euclidean curved space. That is fiction. Einstein's derivation of the doubling involved the petitio principii of presuming parallel lines meet to conclude space curves. Math cannot bend space because space is not a surface. That would be the reification fallacy. The math is non-Euclidean and only valid for surfaces other than plane surfaces. Relativity predicts that if parallel lines meet, then space is curved, and light is deflected by curved space. The derivation is not valid. Space does not bend.
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 14:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <knhd6l-p4mm1.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #890887 |
LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > >> In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>>> >>>> >>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>>> monopoly'. >>>> >>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>>> >>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>>> >>>> >>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>>> >>>> >>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >>> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. >> >> Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. > Certainly, the simple logic is beyond your comprehension. > > Do you think the experiments have proven that parallel lines meet? No, and the fact that you ask such a silly question just proves that all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. <snip remaining kook babble unread>
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 21:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e982a4a11008517c4ca586672937faae@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890855 |
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >> >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>> >>> >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>> monopoly'. >>> >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>> >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>> >>> >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>> >>> >>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>> >>> >>> >> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. > > Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. Clearly, you have not comprehended the logic. Einstein's derivation of the doubling involved the petitio principii of presuming parallel lines meet to conclude space curves. Math cannot bend space because space is not a surface. That would be the reification fallacy. The math is non-Euclidean and only valid for surfaces other than plane surfaces. Relativity predicts that if parallel lines meet, then space is curved, and light is deflected by curved space. The derivation is not valid because space does not bend. Do you think the experiments have proven that parallel lines meet? They would have to meet for space to curve. You are not addressing the issue, which is not the experiments but the derivation. Experiments cannot prove the derivation is sound. I have shown it is not sound and cannot predict. Non-Euclidean math is well-known and irrelevant because it cannot cause space to curve. The Einstein equation merely differs from the Newtonian by changing the "2" into a "4." The problem is that it is a non-Euclidean curved space. That is fiction.
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| From | Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 14:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <dqhd6l-p4mm1.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net> |
| In reply to | #890888 |
In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > >> In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>>> >>>> >>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>>> monopoly'. >>>> >>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>>> >>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>>> >>>> >>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>>> >>>> >>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >>> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. >> >> Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. > Clearly, you have not comprehended the logic. Clearly, you are a babbling kook. *PLONK*
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 21:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8d722cb36dce37ba7641f1c63b6588d8@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890891 |
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 22:46:07 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >> >>> In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>>>> monopoly'. >>>>> >>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>>>> >>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >>>> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. >>> >>> Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. >> Clearly, you have not comprehended the logic. > > Clearly, you are a babbling kook. > > *PLONK* Ad hominem is a failure to reason.
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| From | clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 21:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6e45436aa0f438ebdeec95693065b3d9@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890891 |
On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 22:46:07 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: > In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:06:50 +0000, Jim Pennino wrote: >> >>> In sci.physics LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>>>> monopoly'. >>>>> >>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>>>> >>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> People are so scientifically ignorant that they can be taxed for vast >>>> research grants on the pretext that space expands and is curved. >>> >>> Apparently, all the experiments and math are beyond your comprhension. >> Clearly, you have not comprehended the logic. > > Clearly, you are a babbling kook. > > *PLONK* None of you have been able to defend the derivation of the doubling. You have not even attempted to grapple with the logic. How can parallel lines meet when space is not a surface and cannot curve? What is alleged to cause space to bend? Math?
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 09:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lvh00gF5028U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890844 |
Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 19:05 schrieb The Starmaker: > LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >> >> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >> slavish, and avoidable. > > > They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks monopoly'. > > (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) > > You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. > > > The cabal decides what they want you to think. > No. You are free to think whatever you like. But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, teacher or professors tell you. But it's also not recommended to contradict. Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** you' later. TH
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 12:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vn0la5$dta4$4@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #890870 |
On 1/24/25 2:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 19:05 schrieb The Starmaker: >> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>> >>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>> slavish, and avoidable. >> >> >> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >> monopoly'. >> >> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >> >> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >> >> >> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >> > > No. > > You are free to think whatever you like. > > But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, > teacher or professors tell you. > > But it's also not recommended to contradict. > > Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** you' > later. > > > TH Which means, Europeans are becoming Sheep too. Being Bitches of USA is still better than being Sheep, but... you don't even have that for long.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 07:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lvjg2aFhefsU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890877 |
Am Freitag000024, 24.01.2025 um 19:14 schrieb Physfitfreak: ... >> You are free to think whatever you like. >> >> But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, >> teacher or professors tell you. >> >> But it's also not recommended to contradict. >> >> Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** >> you' later. >> >> >> TH > > > Which means, Europeans are becoming Sheep too. Being Bitches of USA is > still better than being Sheep, but... you don't even have that for long. Don't know how you relate your reply to my statement. i simply wanted to express, that it is not recommended to contradict what you are requested to believe from textbooks, tv or your teacher. You should simply not, say yes and repeat when asked to, but never actually believe a single word of that crap. Actually it's all fraud and fake and almost nothing is like what you are told. The relations of USA to EU is not quite related to this problem, but maybe I should reply to that statement, too. Germany, where I live, has lost too devastating wars against the USA (mainly) assisted by their partners Russia and England (and partially France). Germans are sick of wars and have no intentions at all to participate in any war whatsoever, which the USA, Russia or the UK wage anywhere upon this planet against any nation. We simply do not want wars, especially not with Russia and even more especially not in favor of the Ukraine, because that was a corrupted gangster paradise. TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 10:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6793DBF6.1F53@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #890870 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 19:05 schrieb The Starmaker: > > LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > >> > >> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. > >> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain > >> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The > >> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a > >> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing > >> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as > >> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly > >> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, > >> slavish, and avoidable. > > > > > > They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks monopoly'. > > > > (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) > > > > You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. > > > > > > The cabal decides what they want you to think. > > > > No. > > You are free to think whatever you like. > > But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, > teacher or professors tell you. > > But it's also not recommended to contradict. > > Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** you' > later. > > TH So tell us what you really think, How many planets are there in our solar system? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-24 12:55 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vn0nmk$dta4$6@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #890878 |
On 1/24/25 12:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> Am Donnerstag000023, 23.01.2025 um 19:05 schrieb The Starmaker: >>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>> >>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass baubles. >>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic attain >>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error that a >>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities convincing >>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, such as >>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and thoughtlessly >>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>> >>> >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks monopoly'. >>> >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>> >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>> >>> >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>> >> >> No. >> >> You are free to think whatever you like. >> >> But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, >> teacher or professors tell you. >> >> But it's also not recommended to contradict. >> >> Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** you' >> later. >> >> TH > > So tell us what you really think, How many planets are there in our > solar system? > > He's a castrated Sheep. What would he know.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 07:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lvjg5cFhefsU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890878 |
Am Freitag000024, 24.01.2025 um 19:29 schrieb The Starmaker: >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks monopoly'. >>> >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>> >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>> >>> >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>> >> >> No. >> >> You are free to think whatever you like. >> >> But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, >> teacher or professors tell you. >> >> But it's also not recommended to contradict. >> >> Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** you' >> later. >> >> TH > > So tell us what you really think, How many planets are there in our > solar system? No, but I can tell you where the sun doesn't shine. TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 09:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <679522E2.42FB@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #890896 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am Freitag000024, 24.01.2025 um 19:29 schrieb The Starmaker: > > >>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks monopoly'. > >>> > >>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) > >>> > >>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. > >>> > >>> > >>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. > >>> > >> > >> No. > >> > >> You are free to think whatever you like. > >> > >> But it is not really recommended to actually believe what your TV, > >> teacher or professors tell you. > >> > >> But it's also not recommended to contradict. > >> > >> Better would be to nod and say 'yes' to everything and shout 'f*** you' > >> later. > >> > >> TH > > > > So tell us what you really think, How many planets are there in our > > solar system? > > No, but I can tell you where the sun doesn't shine. Did you cut and paste that? It's embarrassing isn't it? When you just revealed that you are tooo afraid to say how many planets are in our own solar system. It better to keep it to yourself than let others know the cabal does your thinking for you... and it's worse if you cut and paste their answers. It's embarrassing. They think, therefore you are. lemmings. ugh -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-25 13:04 -0600 |
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| In reply to | #890897 |
On 1/25/25 11:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > They think, therefore you are. I like that. It can be taken as the definition of a cro-magnon human.
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