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First post2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
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  ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
      Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
            Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
          Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
            Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
            Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
                Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
                    Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
                                        Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
                                              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
                                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
                                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
                                                  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
                                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
                                                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
                                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
                                                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
                                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
                                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
                                                      Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
                                      Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
                                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
                Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
                    Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
                          Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
                            Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
                                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
                                                Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
                                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
                                                            Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
                                                  Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:27 -0600
                                                      Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:34 -0600
                                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 04:52 +0000
                                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 23:59 -0600
                                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 06:44 +0000
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 11:57 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 13:41 -0800
                                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:55 -0500
                                                  Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
                                                    Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
                                                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
                                                        Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:36 -0800
                              Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
                      Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 13:24 -0800
                        Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:48 +0100
                          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:56 -0600
                      Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
                      Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
                              Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
                                Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
                                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
                                  Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
                                    Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
                                      Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
                                        Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
                                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
                                          Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0500
                                            Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 22:02 -0800
                                              Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 00:10 -0500
                                    Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
                                      Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
                                        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
                                          Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
                          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
                        Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
                          Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
                            Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
                          Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
                            Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
                              Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
                                Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
        Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
          Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
            Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
              Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
    Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
      Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
        Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800

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#890712

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
Message-ID<6789AFA1.1414@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#890694
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> i don't see any indication that Russia will ever use nucluer weapons on
> anyone...

I still don't understand why sooo many people don't believe Iran already
has
an nucluer bomb...

Haven't you ever ordered a cabinate from AmaZon or Ikea, and all the
parts
need to be assembled (with instructions included)???

A nucluer bomb can EASILY be shipped separately in very easy parts,
and then you just reassemble it at your home!


(make sure you get the pdf file)


shouldn't take you longer than 2000 hours to reasemble all the parts
and ready to rock!


Need a plane to carry it and drop it off? You can buy the parts to build
your own plane in your garage..like the Van's RV-10.


Oh, do you need a nucluer bomb? I take PayPal. 




LETS GET DIS WW3 STARTED!!!!


	
ww4, I'll sell you the rocks...





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890691

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
Date2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
Message-ID<vm9jrb$36bq0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#890682
Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:35:49 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 6:20:53 +0000, Governor Swill wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:01:25 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com
>>> (Bertietaylor)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. They also got lands
>>> >from Persia and reduced Poland and Lithuania. Lands from China and
>>>> Japan. Beat up Sweden, expanded South. They are big for a reason and
>>>> getting 12% of Ukraine is thin icing on the cake. Putin's main success
>>>> is political having China and thirdworld support and now buddy Trumpo in
>>>> power.
>>>
>>> And where are all those gains now?
>> See the current map of Ukraine and that before the reoccupation of
>> Crimea. Some 12 trillion dollars of prime real estate.
> 
> Their Navy, such as it now is, can't use the Sevastopol port because Ukraine has
> cowed it.
> 
> The cities and industrial centers in the east that Putin wanted, have been, in
> many cases, 100% destroyed and will have to be rebuilt from scratch.
> 
> He expended 200,000 Russian men taking Bakhmut and Avdiivka.  Another 50,000
> failing to retake Kharkiv.  Three quarters of a million Russia dead and maimed
> so far to steal a wasteland.
> 
> Ukraine controls Crimea's water supply.  Without it, Crimea is useless.
> 
> Putin is still refusing to accept Trump's offer for talks.
> 
> He hasn't been hurt enough yet.
> 
> NP:  Carly Simon - That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be
> 

<https://www.newsweek.com/russia-arrests-general-military-purge-putin-war-mirza-mirzaev-1979651>

A top Russian general has been arrested on bribery charges, 
according to the Tass news agency.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's purge of his top military 
officials continued with the arrest of Major General Mirza Mirzaev.

The detention of Mirzaev, the deputy chief of logistics of the 
Russian National Guard, for allegedly trying to extort a 
contractor marks the latest arrest of a high-ranking military 
figure and fuels speculation about a crackdown on dissent and 
corruption within Vladimir Putin's top military brass.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied.  @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                    /|\
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of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#890632

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
Message-ID<lubvp6F4rvdU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890623
Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:

>>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>>
>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>>> kicked now.
>>>
>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>
>>
>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>> to  a separate peace.
> 
> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French. 

Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.

The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what 
the Prussians disliked.

The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the 
Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.

 From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate Prussians.

As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in 
Waterloo.


...

TH

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#890680

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
Message-ID<b85bedd5c796cc623c11f45487be6d3f@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890632
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 7:15:51 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>
>>>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>>>
>>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>>>> kicked now.
>>>>
>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>> to  a separate peace.
>>
>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>
> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>
> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what
> the Prussians disliked.
>
> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>
>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
> Prussians.
>
> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
> Waterloo.

Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
and egalitarian.

Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.

All were supremely influential militant shitheads from any pacific point
of view.

Arindam's touch is softer than butterfly wings.

Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof woof

Bertietaylor
>
>
> ....
>
> TH

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#890698

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
Message-ID<lursdjFnciaU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890680
Am Dienstag000014, 14.01.2025 um 09:53 schrieb Bertietaylor:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 7:15:51 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>>
>>>>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>>>>> kicked now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>>> to  a separate peace.
>>>
>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>>
>> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>>
>> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what
>> the Prussians disliked.
>>
>> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
>> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>>
>>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
>> Prussians.
>>
>> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
>> Waterloo.
> 
> Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
> and egalitarian.
> 
> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.

All of them did essentially the same thing:

they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and 
forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.

In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in 
large numbers in the Russian winter.

That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the 
Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.

Hitler did almost the same thing.

Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much 
more devastating for the German soldiers.

E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.

This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a 
harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking 
through the Russian winter).

To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and 
starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime, too.

But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad 
the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.

That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth 
and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.


Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.

It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.

But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the 
campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire army).

So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as 
Napoleon.






...


TH

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#890699

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
Message-ID<4894da5d1b1170a6ff8f447ac3a82695@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890698
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 7:56:40 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Dienstag000014, 14.01.2025 um 09:53 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 7:15:51 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>>>>>> kicked now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>>>> to  a separate peace.
>>>>
>>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>>>
>>> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>>>
>>> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what
>>> the Prussians disliked.
>>>
>>> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
>>> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>>>
>>>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
>>> Prussians.
>>>
>>> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
>>> Waterloo.
>>
>> Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
>> and egalitarian.
>>
>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>
> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>
> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>
> In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in
> large numbers in the Russian winter.
>
> That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the
> Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.
>
> Hitler did almost the same thing.
>
> Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much
> more devastating for the German soldiers.
>
> E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.
>
> This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a
> harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking
> through the Russian winter).
>
> To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and
> starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime,
> too.
>
> But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad
> the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.
>
> That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth
> and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.
>
>
> Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.
>
> It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.
>
> But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the
> campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire
> army).
>
> So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as
> Napoleon.

Pale versions of Genghis Khan.
No sentimentality or squeamishness, just take the existing order and
destroy it like a natural force, like forest fire, tsunami, volcano,
etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ....
>
>
> TH

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#890722

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
Message-ID<lv13egFi6glU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890699
Am Donnerstag000016, 16.01.2025 um 09:25 schrieb Bertietaylor:
...
>>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.

'egalitarianism' is apparently meant as 'socialism' and 'modernity' as 
'technocracy' (which are the buzz words of the WEF).

So 'the GREAT RESET' is actually the return of Caesar and the ancient Rome.

Well, yes, possibly.

But who wants Rome back???

Ancients Rome was a slaveholder society, where about two out of three 
people were slaves.

Since slave-ownership ranks among the unforgivable sins, all successions 
of ancient Rome will be destroyed by God himself.

>> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>>
>> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
>> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>>
>> In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in
>> large numbers in the Russian winter.
>>
>> That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the
>> Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.
>>
>> Hitler did almost the same thing.
>>
>> Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much
>> more devastating for the German soldiers.
>>
>> E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.
>>
>> This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a
>> harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking
>> through the Russian winter).
>>
>> To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and
>> starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime,
>> too.
>>
>> But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad
>> the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.
>>
>> That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth
>> and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.
>>
>>
>> Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.
>>
>> It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.
>>
>> But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the
>> campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire
>> army).
>>
>> So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as
>> Napoleon.
> 
> Pale versions of Genghis Khan.

Well, that shithead lived much earlier, but was actually worse than 
Napoleon and Hitler combined.
...

TH

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#890750

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
Message-ID<889eb0b1309730e58f6ebd49b6481cd6@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890722
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 7:27:21 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000016, 16.01.2025 um 09:25 schrieb Bertietaylor:
> ....
>>>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>>>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>
> 'egalitarianism' is apparently meant as 'socialism' and 'modernity' as
> 'technocracy' (which are the buzz words of the WEF).

More or less.
>
> So 'the GREAT RESET' is actually the return of Caesar and the ancient
> Rome.

Benevolent competent dictator adored by masses with increasing living
standards. Ideal.
>
> Well, yes, possibly.
>
> But who wants Rome back???

Rome is there in legal systems where theoretically only guilty are
punished with innocents not to be harmed.
>
> Ancients Rome was a slaveholder society, where about two out of three
> people were slaves.

Now we have machines that work better than slaves.


> Since slave-ownership ranks among the unforgivable sins, all successions
> of ancient Rome will be destroyed by God himself.

I thought Jews had their slaves but Jews are very much around.
>
>>> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>>>
>>> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
>>> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>>>
>>> In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in
>>> large numbers in the Russian winter.
>>>
>>> That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the
>>> Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.
>>>
>>> Hitler did almost the same thing.
>>>
>>> Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much
>>> more devastating for the German soldiers.
>>>
>>> E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.
>>>
>>> This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a
>>> harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking
>>> through the Russian winter).
>>>
>>> To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and
>>> starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime,
>>> too.
>>>
>>> But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad
>>> the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.
>>>
>>> That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth
>>> and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.
>>>
>>> It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.
>>>
>>> But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the
>>> campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire
>>> army).
>>>
>>> So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as
>>> Napoleon.
>>
>> Pale versions of Genghis Khan.
>
> Well, that shithead lived much earlier, but was actually worse than
> Napoleon and Hitler combined.

Those who gladly accepted his rule were spared.
Dear Genghis dragged Europe out of the Dark ages.
Religious bigots may not be happy about that.
> ....
>
> TH

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#890754

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
Message-ID<vmjqs7$6ipb$2@solani.org>
In reply to#890750
On 1/19/25 4:35 AM, Bertietaylor wrote:
> 
> Those who gladly accepted his rule were spared.
> Dear Genghis dragged Europe out of the Dark ages.
> Religious bigots may not be happy about that.


It was not Chengiz himself who did it. His grandsons did after getting 
educated and cultivated in Iran.

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#890784

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
Message-ID<lv6crvFdhokU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890750
Am Sonntag000019, 19.01.2025 um 11:35 schrieb Bertietaylor:
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 7:27:21 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> Am Donnerstag000016, 16.01.2025 um 09:25 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>> ....
>>>>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>>>>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>>
>> 'egalitarianism' is apparently meant as 'socialism' and 'modernity' as
>> 'technocracy' (which are the buzz words of the WEF).
> 
> More or less.
>>
>> So 'the GREAT RESET' is actually the return of Caesar and the ancient
>> Rome.
> 
> Benevolent competent dictator adored by masses with increasing living
> standards. Ideal.

Most dictators in history started benevolant and ended, because they 
left too many corpses behind.

>>
>> Well, yes, possibly.
>>
>> But who wants Rome back???
> 
> Rome is there in legal systems where theoretically only guilty are
> punished with innocents not to be harmed.

 >>>WAS<<<  !!!

Actually ancient Rome is long gone and has existed two thousand years ago.

But many Roman principles of jurisdiction have stil survived and are 
still in use today.

>> Ancients Rome was a slaveholder society, where about two out of three
>> people were slaves.
> 
> Now we have machines that work better than slaves.
> 

Slavery turned out to be very inefficinat.
So modern forms of slavery were introduced, where the slaves had to feed 
themselves.

>> Since slave-ownership ranks among the unforgivable sins, all successions
>> of ancient Rome will be destroyed by God himself.
> 
> I thought Jews had their slaves but Jews are very much around.


Well, possibly God is taking revenge now.

>>>> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>>>>
>>>> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
>>>> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>>>>
...
>>>> So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as
>>>> Napoleon.
>>>
>>> Pale versions of Genghis Khan.
>>
>> Well, that shithead lived much earlier, but was actually worse than
>> Napoleon and Hitler combined.
> 
> Those who gladly accepted his rule were spared.
> Dear Genghis dragged Europe out of the Dark ages.
> Religious bigots may not be happy about that.

I would say, that the Mongols had occuption in mind, when they came to 
the west.

Whether or not they wanted to bring enlightment to the people of the 
'dark ages' would be a theoretical question, because they were defeated 
by the people they have tried to enlighten.

TH

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#890787

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
Message-ID<40d0c0bd87fcad95833b582567637dd1@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890784
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 7:38:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Sonntag000019, 19.01.2025 um 11:35 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 7:27:21 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Donnerstag000016, 16.01.2025 um 09:25 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>>> ....
>>>>>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>>>>>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>>>
>>> 'egalitarianism' is apparently meant as 'socialism' and 'modernity' as
>>> 'technocracy' (which are the buzz words of the WEF).
>>
>> More or less.
>>>
>>> So 'the GREAT RESET' is actually the return of Caesar and the ancient
>>> Rome.
>>
>> Benevolent competent dictator adored by masses with increasing living
>> standards. Ideal.
>
> Most dictators in history started benevolant and ended, because they
> left too many corpses behind.
Other way around, monarchs generally were wonderful dictators at least
in Hindu States. Elsewhere they fell short by varying lengths.
>
>>>
>>> Well, yes, possibly.
>>>
>>> But who wants Rome back???
>>
>> Rome is there in legal systems where theoretically only guilty are
>> punished with innocents not to be harmed.
>
>  >>>WAS<<<  !!!

Still is in theory.
>
> Actually ancient Rome is long gone and has existed two thousand years
> ago.
>
> But many Roman principles of jurisdiction have stil survived and are
> still in use today.

Yes.
>
>>> Ancients Rome was a slaveholder society, where about two out of three
>>> people were slaves.
>>
>> Now we have machines that work better than slaves.
>>
>
> Slavery turned out to be very inefficinat.
> So modern forms of slavery were introduced, where the slaves had to feed
> themselves.

They feed billionaires.
>
>>> Since slave-ownership ranks among the unforgivable sins, all successions
>>> of ancient Rome will be destroyed by God himself.
>>
>> I thought Jews had their slaves but Jews are very much around.
>
>
> Well, possibly God is taking revenge now.

No, Jews' have it all save for minor hiccups here and there. Protestants
adore them.
>
>>>>> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>>>>>
>>>>> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
>>>>> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>>>>>
> ....
>>>>> So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as
>>>>> Napoleon.
>>>>
>>>> Pale versions of Genghis Khan.
>>>
>>> Well, that shithead lived much earlier, but was actually worse than
>>> Napoleon and Hitler combined.
>>
>> Those who gladly accepted his rule were spared.
>> Dear Genghis dragged Europe out of the Dark ages.
>> Religious bigots may not be happy about that.
>
> I would say, that the Mongols had occuption in mind, when they came to
> the west.

They were nomads clueless about civilisation.
>
> Whether or not they wanted to bring enlightment to the people of the
> 'dark ages' would be a theoretical question, because they were defeated
> by the people they have tried to enlighten.

Not the point. They shook up things.
>
> TH

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#890700

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
Message-ID<3f95389621596009415f2e8089d68784@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890698
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 7:56:40 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Dienstag000014, 14.01.2025 um 09:53 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 7:15:51 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>>> Am Donnerstag000009, 09.01.2025 um 11:01 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass
>>>>>>> kicked now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>>>> to  a separate peace.
>>>>
>>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>>>
>>> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>>>
>>> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, what
>>> the Prussians disliked.
>>>
>>> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
>>> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>>>
>>>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
>>> Prussians.
>>>
>>> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
>>> Waterloo.
>>
>> Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
>> and egalitarian.
>>
>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>
> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>
> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>
> In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in
> large numbers in the Russian winter.

Napoleon invaded Russia as the Czar broke the earlier treaty after
losing a big battle. The idea was to contain Russia, not let it expand
by sea, stop its association with the UK.
>
> That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the
> Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.

He lost. Russia won and the Cossacks romped in Paris. However those
serfs got ideas from France and over time they grew strong enough to
overthrow the Czar.
>
> Hitler did almost the same thing.
Big mistake. That is why there are those who say that Hitler was
actually anti-German or anti-Arya. The greatest conman ever.
>
> Hitlers occupation involved more serious crimes however, which were much
> more devastating for the German soldiers.

Indeed. Either a very big fool or the greatest traitor. Stalin never
thought he would be so stupid as to have war on two fronts. Hitler
should have finished UK before attacking USSR.
>
> E.g. Hitler refused to occupy Leningrad.

He did say he would have dinner there but looks like Soviet resistance
was great.
>
> This was extremely stupid, because Leningrad has a harbor and having a
> harbor there would allow the Wehrmacht to use ships (instead of walking
> through the Russian winter).

This assumes he could have walked in.
>
> To prevent German success, the Nazis had to surround Leningrad and
> starved 1 million Russians to death, which was a very serious crime,
> too.

So you hold Hitler and Nazis to be anti German. Well they certainly
ruined Germany while claiming to love Germans.
>
> But it was also extremely stupid, because with occupation of Leningrad
> the Baltic Sea would have been entirely under German control.
>
> That in turn would allow Navi-ships to move quite safely back and forth
> and that in  turn would have saved millions of lifes.

Yes, but the Soviets stopped them. Once their troops returned from the
Chinese front the tide turned.
>
>
> Also the Stalingrad campaign was extremely stupid and extremely deadly.
>
> It made not sense of any kind to invade that region in the first place.

They wanted the oil in that region, and the rich lands of Ukraine.
>
> But especially the city Stalingrad was of no particular interest and the
> campaigned served no obvious purpose (despite wiping out an entire
> army).
>
> So: Hitler was a piece of shit, too, but for very similar reasons as
> Napoleon.

Look at their plus points. They were scientific, modern, egalitarian,
supported research, cared for the common man, introduced many reforms,
improved quality of life, weakened the grip of the feudal lords and
religious bigots, broke down barriers... We all must die and who knows
that better than dictators. Their point is that mass killings will lead
to positive change in due course. Genghis Khan is credited with the
Renaissance in Europe, dragged them out of the Dark Aged.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ....
>
>
> TH

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#890723

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
Message-ID<lv13pjFi6glU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890700
Am Donnerstag000016, 16.01.2025 um 09:56 schrieb Bertietaylor:

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>>>>> to  a separate peace.
>>>>>
>>>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>>>>
>>>> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>>>>
>>>> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia, 
>>>> what
>>>> the Prussians disliked.
>>>>
>>>> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
>>>> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>>>>
>>>>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
>>>> Prussians.
>>>>
>>>> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
>>>> Waterloo.
>>>
>>> Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
>>> and egalitarian.
>>>
>>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>>
>> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>>
>> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
>> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>>
>> In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in
>> large numbers in the Russian winter.
> 
> Napoleon invaded Russia as the Czar broke the earlier treaty after
> losing a big battle. The idea was to contain Russia, not let it expand
> by sea, stop its association with the UK.
>>
>> That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the
>> Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.
> 
> He lost. Russia won and the Cossacks romped in Paris. However those
> serfs got ideas from France and over time they grew strong enough to
> overthrow the Czar.
>>
>> Hitler did almost the same thing.
> Big mistake. That is why there are those who say that Hitler was
> actually anti-German or anti-Arya. The greatest conman ever.

The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg 
'Greg Hallett'.

That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'.

So, Stalin was the greatest 'conman ever', because his head count was 
much greater.

About Hitler's real identity I had assumed, that it could have been 
'Noel Trevenen Huxley'.

The reason is a little difficult to explain. But the younger brother of 
Julian Huxley (head of 'Eugenics') would fit.


...


TH

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#890724

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
Message-ID<8714cd5a09eaef82a980f7b5073e2f13@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#890723
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 7:33:15 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Donnerstag000016, 16.01.2025 um 09:56 schrieb Bertietaylor:
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>>>>>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit, in 1ww Germany beat Russia and forced
>>>>>>> to  a separate peace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True but a century earlier they thrashed the French.
>>>>>
>>>>> Napoleon was a shithead from Corsica and has invaded Prussia.
>>>>>
>>>>> The French forced Prussia to participate in the war against Russia,
>>>>> what
>>>>> the Prussians disliked.
>>>>>
>>>>> The scumbag named 'Napoleon' later left the war unharmed, but the
>>>>> Prussians didn't and died there in large numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From Prussian perspective this war had the sole aim to decimate
>>>>> Prussians.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a revenge the Prussians helped the British to destroy Napoleon in
>>>>> Waterloo.
>>>>
>>>> Russians and Germans were feudal and imperial whereas France was modern
>>>> and egalitarian.
>>>>
>>>> Napoleon ranks with Alexander, Caesar and Hitler as among the four top
>>>> European leaders, for egalitarianism and modernity.
>>>
>>> All of them did essentially the same thing:
>>>
>>> they have sent their armies into territories, which were not theirs and
>>> forced the inhabitants of the occupied regions to fight in their army.
>>>
>>> In case of Napoleon this was a disaster for the Prussians, which died in
>>> large numbers in the Russian winter.
>>
>> Napoleon invaded Russia as the Czar broke the earlier treaty after
>> losing a big battle. The idea was to contain Russia, not let it expand
>> by sea, stop its association with the UK.
>>>
>>> That stupid corsian piece of shit didn't do that, however, but left the
>>> Prussians there to die together with the French soldiers.
>>
>> He lost. Russia won and the Cossacks romped in Paris. However those
>> serfs got ideas from France and over time they grew strong enough to
>> overthrow the Czar.
>>>
>>> Hitler did almost the same thing.
>> Big mistake. That is why there are those who say that Hitler was
>> actually anti-German or anti-Arya. The greatest conman ever.
>
> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg
> 'Greg Hallett'.

There is a similar story about Khomeni.
>
> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'.
>
> So, Stalin was the greatest 'conman ever', because his head count was
> much greater.
If Hitler and Stalin were British agents I suppose they were pro
American really. For along with Churchill they destroyed the British
Empire and colonialism, this made America great even to this day.
>
> About Hitler's real identity I had assumed, that it could have been
> 'Noel Trevenen Huxley'.

Maybe there was a switch in identity in WW1.
>
> The reason is a little difficult to explain. But the younger brother of
> Julian Huxley (head of 'Eugenics') would fit.

Maybe, but from long before Einstein to the present the main idea has
been to suppress the Hinduisation of the West, happening from direct
contact with the natives. Like Romans in Egypt turning to worshipping
cats and jackals to the disgust of Romans. American dominance avoids
direct contact, corrupts elites, uses money controls.

Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof

Bertietaylor
>
> ....
>
>
> TH

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#890746

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
Message-ID<lv3l1tFef8U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890724
Am Samstag000018, 18.01.2025 um 16:58 schrieb Bertietaylor:


>>> He lost. Russia won and the Cossacks romped in Paris. However those
>>> serfs got ideas from France and over time they grew strong enough to
>>> overthrow the Czar.
>>>>
>>>> Hitler did almost the same thing.
>>> Big mistake. That is why there are those who say that Hitler was
>>> actually anti-German or anti-Arya. The greatest conman ever.
>>
>> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg
>> 'Greg Hallett'.
> 
> There is a similar story about Khomeni.

Khomeni would have been French, because he lived in Paris before.

>>
>> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'.
>>
>> So, Stalin was the greatest 'conman ever', because his head count was
>> much greater.
> If Hitler and Stalin were British agents I suppose they were pro
> American really. For along with Churchill they destroyed the British
> Empire and colonialism, this made America great even to this day.
>>
>> About Hitler's real identity I had assumed, that it could have been
>> 'Noel Trevenen Huxley'.
> 
> Maybe there was a switch in identity in WW1.

That's what I thought.

there was a famous event called 'Christmas at the front' in the trenches 
of Flanders.

There the soldiers invited their enemies and celebrated Christmas.

But what it the British put some sedatives into the wine?

Then they could have kept the real Hitler and sent a false one back.

As this was VERY dangerous for a spy, they have not sent Noel Huxley 
bach, but an intermediate spy, which was exchanged later in Beelitz 
Heilstaetten to the fake Hitler.
...


TH

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#890755

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
Message-ID<vmjr6j$6ipb$3@solani.org>
In reply to#890723
On 1/18/25 1:33 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> The exists a book called 'Hitler was a British agent' by a man nameg 
> 'Greg Hallett'.
> 
> That guy wrote also 'Stalin's British training'.



There was a whole batch of bogus Iranian historians who attributed any 
and every political move in Iran to "the British". Thanks to god they're 
dead and gone together with all that bullshit they wrote.

Didn't know Europeans were not spared from that crap either.

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#890622

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Message-ID<677F7606.62CD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#890620
Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
> Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill:
> 
> >>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case
> >>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
> >>>
> >>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
> >>
> >> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
> >
> > Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.
> 
> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
> 
> Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything
> similar might happen again.
> 
> Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if
> possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'.
> 
> The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine.
> 
> This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt
> countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob.
> 
> At least I think so. The reason is, that I have lived some time together
> with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several
> thousand dollars.
> 
> This why I think about this country as the pinnacle of failure of states.
> >
> >> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the
> >> Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single
> >> button.
> >
> > More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which
> > button to push.
> 
> Possible, but highly unlikely.
> 
> As far as I can tell, the Russians know how to handle their arms.
> 
> TH

Lets not forget the Russians were the first to send a man in space.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890628

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
Message-ID<f8e1ojhr1l8s3nnt8vgjbrel6m5tduqlkq@4ax.com>
In reply to#890620
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 07:55:21 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

>Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Governor Swill:
>
>>>>> But I would bet, the Russians send submarines or drop mines in case
>>>>> there are Nato ships coming into the Black Sea.
>>>>
>>>> NATO already has ships in the Black Sea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Possibly yes, but there is no war between Russia and NATO till now.
>>>
>>> Important is, what would happen in the case of a conflict.
>> 
>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.
>
>Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war 
>with Russia- mostly very miserably.

You're lying.  Russia is not in this war to defend itself against an aggressor
neighbor like Hitler or Napoleon.  It's Russia that's the aggressor.  Russia's
victories on those two cases were because it had broad allied support from other
major powers.  Russia didn't defeat either Hitler or Napoleon all by itself.

>Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything 
>similar might happen again.

Stop eating the mushrooms.

>Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if 
>possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'.

That's why they've stopped buying Russian energy, is it?

>The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine.

That explains why Germany has been the biggest source of military and financial
aid in Europe.

>This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt 
>countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob.

You're describing Russia.

>At least I think so. 

You seem to not think at all.

>The reason is, that I have lived some time together 
>with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several 
>thousand dollars.

So you got a hooker at a discount.  So what.

>This why I think about this country as the pinnacle of failure of states.

Russia, yes, if you want an example of State failure, it is an archetypal
example.e
 
>>> I would guess, that Russia has enough missiles already positioned on the
>>> Crimean peninsula to sink all western boats with the push on a single
>>> button.
>> 
>> More likely they'll explode in their silos - if anybody can remember which
>> button to push.
>
>Possible, but highly unlikely.

Considering the state of their other weapons:  missiles that turn back and
attack their own launch sites, others supposedly too fast to shoot down being
shot down, air defenses that don't protect their oil refineries, artillery
pieces or even their capitol, planes that fall out of the sky without a shot
being fired, thousands of destroyed tanks, rusty rifles and dud ammo missiles on
the front, Russian dead 3 to 1 against Ukraine ... yeah, we're all convinced of
the efficacy of Moscow's weapons systems.

>As far as I can tell, the Russians know how to handle their arms.

Arms?  Perhaps.  But those arms can't handle weapons.

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#890634

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
Message-ID<luc0npF4rvdU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#890628
Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 07:19 schrieb Governor Swill:

>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.
>>
>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
> 
> You're lying.  Russia is not in this war to defend itself against an aggressor
> neighbor like Hitler or Napoleon.  It's Russia that's the aggressor.  Russia's
> victories on those two cases were because it had broad allied support from other
> major powers.  Russia didn't defeat either Hitler or Napoleon all by itself.
> 
>> Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything
>> similar might happen again.

Germany and especially Berlin (where I live) looked like a place on the 
Moon after the War.

Germans are scared by the bare possibility of anythings like this would 
happen again.

> 
>> Actually German have more a tendency to cooperate with Russia if
>> possible and do not really want to 'kick asses'.
> 
> That's why they've stopped buying Russian energy, is it?
> 
>> The country most Germans dislike in this conflict is actually the Ukraine.
> 
> That explains why Germany has been the biggest source of military and financial
> aid in Europe.
> 
>> This is so, because the Ukraine was regarded as one of the most corrupt
>> countries on this planet and essentially ruled by the mob.
> 
> You're describing Russia.
> 
>> At least I think so.
> 
> You seem to not think at all.
> 
>> The reason is, that I have lived some time together
>> with a lady from Lvow, who was sold by the mob to a German for several
>> thousand dollars.
> 
> So you got a hooker at a discount.  So what.


Human trafficing is among the most profitable businesses on the planet.

But it is also a terrible sin and all people involved deserve to go to hell.

And the ukrainan mob was heavily engaged in human trafficing.

...

TH

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#890654

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
Message-ID<tr16ojl9asmkcvp77r6ab8q1aj3k25t4gj@4ax.com>
In reply to#890634
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 08:32:09 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:

>Am Freitag000010, 10.01.2025 um 07:19 schrieb Governor Swill:
>
>>>> Russia would get it's ass kicked even more than it's getting its ass kicked now.
>>>
>>> Germany has tried to do this several times and lost every single war
>>> with Russia- mostly very miserably.
>> 
>> You're lying.  Russia is not in this war to defend itself against an aggressor
>> neighbor like Hitler or Napoleon.  It's Russia that's the aggressor.  Russia's
>> victories on those two cases were because it had broad allied support from other
>> major powers.  Russia didn't defeat either Hitler or Napoleon all by itself.
>> 
>>> Germans are essentially scared by the bare possibility, that anything
>>> similar might happen again.
>
>Germany and especially Berlin (where I live) looked like a place on the 
>Moon after the War.

Like much of eastern Ukraine.

>Germans are scared by the bare possibility of anythings like this would 
>happen again.

There's no evidence of that.  They seem to have no problem weaning themselves
off Russian energy in record time and pouring tens of billions into Ukraine's
economy and defense.

It's Putin who's scared.
 
<snip>

>> So you got a hooker at a discount.  So what.
>
>
>Human trafficing is among the most profitable businesses on the planet.
>
>But it is also a terrible sin and all people involved deserve to go to hell.
>
>And the ukrainan mob was heavily engaged in human trafficing.

You misspelled "Russian" again.

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