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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800 |
| Last post | 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800 |
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ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:27 -0600
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:34 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 04:52 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 23:59 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 06:44 +0000
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 11:57 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 13:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:55 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:36 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 13:24 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:48 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:56 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 22:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 00:10 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
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Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luepl9Fib4lU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890612 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:23 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >>>> service in the World: the KGB. >>>> >>>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >>> >>> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible >>> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >> >> Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. > > Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your > brain at the Czar's pleasure. Well, what you describe was Stalin. But Stalin wasn't Russian. He was actually a professional bank robber from Georgia. They don't have a Czar in Russia neither. ... TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <pn36oj5roj7scu048i0iahi0v3bp78l30h@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890643 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:49:47 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:23 schrieb Governor Swill: > >>>>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >>>>> service in the World: the KGB. >>>>> >>>>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >>>> >>>> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible >>>> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >>> >>> Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. >> >> Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your >> brain at the Czar's pleasure. > >Well, what you describe was Stalin. So Putin's staircases, open windows and radioactive poisons don't count? Btw, where is Navalny? >But Stalin wasn't Russian. He was actually a professional bank robber >from Georgia. > >They don't have a Czar in Russia neither. Yeah, they do, and his name is Vladimir Putin.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ltpj44F3s91U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890552 |
Am Mittwoch000001, 01.01.2025 um 10:58 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 00:14:34 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> Most likely Trump already amde a peace deal with Putin, otherwise >> >> Which he can't legally do as a civilian. > > Stop knee jerking, people. Trump is sending signals that he is possibly even > more hawkish than Biden on Ukraine. Kellogg has stated that the planned peace > proposition requires Russia and Ukraine to both lay down they arms. Refusal by > either side carries consequences. If Ukraine refuses to engage in peace talks, > the US will stop supporting them. Otoh, if Russia refuses to engage in peace > talks, Trump will arm Ukraine to the teeth without restrictions. > Putin said on TV, that he wanted to start peace talks. It were the Ukrainians, who rejected peace talks. The Ukrainians wanted to 'win', but have no real chance against the superpower Russia. Whether or not the Nato had, that would be a good question. I would think, that Russia is already in a very good strategic position and even the entire Nato cannot push them back from there. The reason: Russia could sent many million soldiers very easily to the front, while Nato troops had to be brought there. This is difficult, because the Nato would need ships, but the Russians control the Crimean peninsula and with it the entire Black Sea. Now Nato troops could only be brought by ship over the Baltic Sea. But that is very narrow, shallow and too far away. So, in effect, Nato troops could only come from the west on land, e.g. from Poland. But that would be LOOOOOOONG (!!!) and dangerous (!!!!) walk, because Ukraine is very large and flat and provides no mountains as protective cover at all. Travel by air is also not recommended, because Russia has state of the art air defense systems. The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult to defeat. TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qtnlnjl6miu3iujfoimlgrf4lqs8g4mbo3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890567 |
On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. >But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult >to defeat. Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at the parade? -- Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide." Well, they did. Get over it.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu3te8FphgoU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890576 |
Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. >> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult >> to defeat. > > Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at the parade? > I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. TH
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlimt8$23v7r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890584 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> >> wrote: >> >>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are >>> mostly old. >>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly >>> difficult >>> to defeat. >> >> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at >> the parade? >> > > I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. > > That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. > > TH > > Some assembly required. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu6ns4F90rcU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890585 |
Am Dienstag000007, 07.01.2025 um 08:59 schrieb Siri Cruise: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>> >>>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are mostly old. >>>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly difficult >>>> to defeat. >>> >>> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at the >>> parade? >>> >> >> I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. >> >> That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. >> >> TH >> >> > > Some assembly required. > But tanks are very difficult to build. I've heard, it would take two years to build one. It it's also very expensive. TH
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1mntnjhb402ovtv4nb657lggvbbu3sn6d2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890598 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:30:17 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >But tanks are very difficult to build. As Russia has learned to its cost.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <677F128A.5ADA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #890613 |
Governor Swill wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:30:17 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > > >But tanks are very difficult to build. > > As Russia has learned to its cost. A tank...is just...a big bullet proof vest. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vln3vj$3122t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890617 |
On 1/8/2025 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Governor Swill wrote: >> >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:30:17 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> But tanks are very difficult to build. >> >> As Russia has learned to its cost. > > > A tank...is just...a big bullet proof vest. That, and it might be a big slow target for various weapons systems to engage with?
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vltcvb$h8ou$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890618 |
On 1/8/2025 4:07 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 1/8/2025 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> Governor Swill wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:30:17 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>> >>>> But tanks are very difficult to build. >>> >>> As Russia has learned to its cost. >> >> >> A tank...is just...a big bullet proof vest. > > That, and it might be a big slow target for various weapons systems to > engage with? I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vltd10$h8ou$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890644 |
On 1/11/2025 1:17 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 1/8/2025 4:07 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 1/8/2025 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Governor Swill wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:30:17 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But tanks are very difficult to build. >>>> >>>> As Russia has learned to its cost. >>> >>> >>> A tank...is just...a big bullet proof vest. >> >> That, and it might be a big slow target for various weapons systems to >> engage with? > > I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground > waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... > All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets a > notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets the > tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser pointer > on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home in on? Not > to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. Tanks might be a fucking death trap in modern war?
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vltd4e$h8ou$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890645 |
On 1/11/2025 1:18 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 1/11/2025 1:17 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 1/8/2025 4:07 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> On 1/8/2025 4:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Governor Swill wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:30:17 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But tanks are very difficult to build. >>>>> >>>>> As Russia has learned to its cost. >>>> >>>> >>>> A tank...is just...a big bullet proof vest. >>> >>> That, and it might be a big slow target for various weapons systems >>> to engage with? >> >> I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground >> waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... >> All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets >> a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets >> the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser >> pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home >> in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. > > Tanks might be a fucking death trap in modern war? The tank commander says, what is that buzzing sound? A fleet of drones just dropped a bunch of anti tank bomblets on them. Kabooom, boom, booommm, boom, boom... Tank = dead.
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vluia0$opg4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890644 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the > ground waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple > of days.... All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. > The person gets a notification on his device... He pops out of the > hole and targets the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and > also holds a laser pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to > surface missiles to home in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine > fields galore. Everybody but Russia knows you send infantry alongside tanks to deal with enemy infantry with anti-tank weapons. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlva43$sa38$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890650 |
On 1/11/2025 11:54 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground >> waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... >> All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets >> a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets >> the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser >> pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home >> in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. > > Everybody but Russia knows you send infantry alongside tanks to deal > with enemy infantry with anti-tank weapons. > The damn tank can also be hit with drones and/or surface to surface missile barrages. Each tank should have a couple of surface to air missiles on it.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <678345C1.29AA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #890662 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 1/11/2025 11:54 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground > >> waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... > >> All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets > >> a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets > >> the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser > >> pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home > >> in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. > > > > Everybody but Russia knows you send infantry alongside tanks to deal > > with enemy infantry with anti-tank weapons. > > > > The damn tank can also be hit with drones and/or surface to surface > missile barrages. Each tank should have a couple of surface to air > missiles on it. and who would supply drones and/or surface to surface missile barrages? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlvi9e$11btv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890663 |
On 1/11/2025 8:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 1/11/2025 11:54 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground >>>> waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... >>>> All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets >>>> a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets >>>> the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser >>>> pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home >>>> in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. >>> >>> Everybody but Russia knows you send infantry alongside tanks to deal >>> with enemy infantry with anti-tank weapons. >>> >> >> The damn tank can also be hit with drones and/or surface to surface >> missile barrages. Each tank should have a couple of surface to air >> missiles on it. > > > and who would supply > drones and/or surface to surface missile barrages? > > > > > The enemy of the targeted tank, perhaps?
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vmcd4q$3obns$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890663 |
On 1/11/2025 8:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >> On 1/11/2025 11:54 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground >>>> waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... >>>> All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets >>>> a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets >>>> the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser >>>> pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home >>>> in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. >>> >>> Everybody but Russia knows you send infantry alongside tanks to deal >>> with enemy infantry with anti-tank weapons. >>> >> >> The damn tank can also be hit with drones and/or surface to surface >> missile barrages. Each tank should have a couple of surface to air >> missiles on it. > > > and who would supply > drones and/or surface to surface missile barrages? I think it just might be "beneficial" if a tank was also a mobile SAM site wrt short/medium range anti air weapons. Although, I think tanks are just big slow targets anyway...
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vmk8j2$2l4td$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890713 |
On 1/16/2025 5:52 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 1/11/2025 8:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>> On 1/11/2025 11:54 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> I can be as easy as a highly dedicated person in a hole in the ground >>>>> waiting for tanks to pass by. It's been there for a couple of days.... >>>>> All of a sudden a rumble... An enemy tank is near by. The person gets >>>>> a notification on his device... He pops out of the hole and targets >>>>> the tank with a wire guided anti tank missile and also holds a laser >>>>> pointer on the tank for anti tank surface to surface missiles to home >>>>> in on? Not to mention the anti tank mine fields galore. >>>> >>>> Everybody but Russia knows you send infantry alongside tanks to deal >>>> with enemy infantry with anti-tank weapons. >>>> >>> >>> The damn tank can also be hit with drones and/or surface to surface >>> missile barrages. Each tank should have a couple of surface to air >>> missiles on it. >> >> >> and who would supply >> drones and/or surface to surface missile barrages? > > I think it just might be "beneficial" if a tank was also a mobile SAM > site wrt short/medium range anti air weapons. Although, I think tanks > are just big slow targets anyway... > I can see it now, a tank with anit-air weapons, akin to a tank/sam hybrid. A group of state-of-the-art HARM missiles got interested... ;^)
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vmkheq$2rkca$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890772 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>> The damn tank can also be hit with drones and/or surface to >>>> surface >>>> missile barrages. Each tank should have a couple of surface to >>>> air >>>> missiles on it. >>> >>> >>> and who would supply >>> drones and/or surface to surface missile barrages? >> >> I think it just might be "beneficial" if a tank was also a >> mobile SAM site wrt short/medium range anti air weapons. >> Although, I think tanks are just big slow targets anyway... >> > > I can see it now, a tank with anit-air weapons, akin to a tank/sam > hybrid. A group of state-of-the-art HARM missiles got > interested... ;^) Ukrainian Bradleys have gotten tank kills which should be impossible. They carry a couple of missiles. If they see the tank first, they fire their guns. Those cannot damage the tank interior. But they blast away all the periscope and cameras so that the tank crew is left blind. Then the Bradleys can aim their missiles that can pierce the tank armor and kill the crew. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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