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Linux Crashing

Started byClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
First post2021-09-27 07:52 -0500
Last post2021-09-28 05:21 +0000
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  Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 07:52 -0500
    Re: Linux Crashing pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-09-27 13:18 +0000
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:32 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:40 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 15:01 +0100
            Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 11:17 -0400
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:55 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:57 +0100
        Re: Linux Crashing "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-27 20:42 +0200
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:49 -0500
    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:20 +0100
      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 08:24 -0500
        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 14:49 +0100
          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 09:09 -0500
            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-27 20:21 -0600
              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:30 -0500
                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 13:01 +0100
                  Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:34 -0500
                    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-28 19:31 +0100
                      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 15:55 -0500
                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 21:53 -0600
                          Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 04:08 +0000
                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 22:54 -0600
                              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 01:59 -0500
                                Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:31 -0500
                                  Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:13 +0100
                                    Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:15 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:34 +0100
                                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:10 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 23:16 -0500
                                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:20 -0600
                                              BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:38 -0700
                                              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:33 -0500
                                                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:35 -0600
                                                  Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:13 -0500
                                                    Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:26 +0000
                                          I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 06:36 -0700
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0600
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-30 09:33 -0500
                                                Dilbert.COM Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Dilbert.COM RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-30 11:21 -0400
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:40 -0600
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 06:19 -0500
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 12:51 +0000
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 08:05 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:18 +0000
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:20 -0600
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:24 +0000
                                                    I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 09:46 -0700
                                                      Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                                                      Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:12 -0700
                                                      Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:11 -0600
                                                        Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:26 +0100
                                                          Re: I don't trust programmers who knock #define | goto. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:54 +0000
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:32 -0500
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:51 -0500
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:06 +0100
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:09 -0600
                                                            ## is a godsend. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 21:29 -0700
                                                              Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 01:52 -0700
                                                                Re: ## is a godsend. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 10:56 +0000
                                                                  "z1.CPP" ain't no "Dilbert.COM".OopsOops Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 08:57 -0700
                                                                  Re: ## is a godsend. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:59 -0700
                                                              Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:31 -0600
                                                                Improving "z1.CPP" is a pure joy. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:24 -0700
                                                                Re: ## is a godsend. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                                                                  Re: ## is a godsend. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:35 -0600
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:15 +0100
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 11:11 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:43 +0000
                                                                "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:21 -0600
                                                                    How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:40 -0700
                                                                      Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:44 +0100
                                                                        Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:42 -0500
                                                                          Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:36 +0000
                                                                          The Covid cult liberated me from my shackles. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:18 -0700
                                                                      Re: How do you think I kept my 30 year "gig" ? Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: "Dilbert.COM" has to be "readable". Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:56 -0400
                                                                      My code was forked. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:03 -0700
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:18 -0600
                                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 00:46 +0100
                                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:34 -0600
                                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:28 +0000
                                                                    No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 20:27 -0700
                                                                      Re: No one here cares about what my code actually *does*. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 10:40 +0100
                                                            One huge routine. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:17 -0700
                                                              Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
                                                                Max sucks dicks. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 10:04 -0700
                                                                  Re: Max sucks dicks. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:27 +0000
                                                                Re: One huge routine. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:27 -0600
                                                                  Re: One huge routine. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:30 +0000
                                                              Re: One huge routine. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 15:30 -0500
                                                                Macros & Muscle Memory keep it simple. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 13:47 -0700
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-01 16:15 -0500
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 16:55 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:00 +0100
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:04 -0700
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:43 -0600
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:35 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 08:09 -0600
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 12:42 -0500
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 21:15 -0600
                                                          Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 21:36 -0700
                                                            Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 05:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 06:44 -0500
                                                            Re: Whitespace & Comments indicates _problems_. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:05 +0100
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:03 +0100
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:07 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 08:56 +0100
                                                          "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:10 -0700
                                                            Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:29 +0100
                                                              People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:40 -0700
                                                                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 16:45 +0000
                                                                  Cheating. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 09:55 -0700
                                                                    Re: Cheating. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-02 13:30 -0500
                                                                      Your "Up" is my "Down". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:45 -0700
                                                                    Re: Cheating. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 15:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: Cheating. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 14:43 -0500
                                                                        Me, my daughter, and my son. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 13:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:50 -0500
                                                                          Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-02 16:51 -0500
                                                                          Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:36 +0000
                                                                            Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-02 22:17 -0400
                                                                              Re: Me, my daughter, and my son. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 03:26 +0100
                                                                      My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 13:03 -0700
                                                                        Re: My kids were born blonde and blue-eyed. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:34 +0000
                                                                          I was blonde, when younger. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 20:21 -0700
                                                                            Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:50 +0000
                                                                              Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:16 -0500
                                                                                Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:04 -0500
                                                                                    Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:11 +0000
                                                                                      Re: I was blonde, when younger. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:31 -0500
                                                                                        Re: I was blonde, when younger. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:53 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I was blonde, when younger. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:42 -0500
                                                                                    Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:08 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-03 21:35 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 22:46 -0500
                                                                                            Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 21:13 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:37 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-04 03:38 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 14:02 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-04 19:26 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 20:19 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-04 22:18 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 21:39 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 21:35 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-05 11:53 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:31 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-05 13:57 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-05 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Organisms pick & choose from the DNA smorgasbord. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-05 13:06 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Tell me you don't like "Former U.S.S.R." girls of Nordic origin ! Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-04 03:25 -0400
                                                                    Re: Cheating. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:25 +0000
                                                                      I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 20:14 -0700
                                                                        Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 23:26 -0500
                                                                          Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 21:45 -0700
                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:18 -0500
                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:35 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:10 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:13 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 19:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2021-10-03 20:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Helmut Achterberg <"Helmut Achterberg"@localonly.com> - 2021-10-03 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:46 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-03 19:53 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:33 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 01:05 -0500
                                                                              Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:09 -0700
                                                                                Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:18 -0600
                                                                                  Seattle's not big on tolerance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: Seattle hates smokers with a deep passion. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 12:03 -0600
                                                                                Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 21:46 -0500
                                                                            Re: Ny ex-wife wanted 4 more kids, I didn't. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:55 -0600
                                                                          Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:55 +0000
                                                                              TFZ is better then Face-To-Face sex. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 09:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 19:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 04:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 00:15 -0500
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 10:34 +0000
                                                                              Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:01 -0500
                                                                                Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 19:10 +0000
                                                                                  Life is everything, yet nothing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 12:17 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Life is everything, yet nothing. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 18:30 -0500
                                                                                    Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:56 +0100
                                                                              Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 07:16 -0700
                                                                              Re: I did _not_ believe she'd do it. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-03 10:14 -0500
                                                                Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 13:33 -0500
                                                                  The loans-to-deposits ratio is insane, nothing a banker would want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 11:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: People like me, who work 30 years on a job, aren't cheating. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:55 -0600
                                                            Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: "Permies" aren't script kiddies. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 11:35 -0600
                                                              My work got done joyously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:28 -0700
                                                                Re: My work got done joyously. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:31 +0000
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:44 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:50 +0100
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:55 -0600
                                                            Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 12:15 -0700
                                                              Re: Recursion makes good algorithms & bad implementations. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:33 +0000
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 17:35 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 22:08 -0600
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 00:12 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-03 11:47 +0100
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 11:49 -0600
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 20:02 -0500
                                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 19:47 -0600
                                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 23:50 -0500
                                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:54 -0600
                                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 00:08 -0500
                                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 05:12 +0000
                                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 01:51 -0500
                                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 06:56 +0000
                                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:28 -0500
                                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 20:18 +0000
                                                                                Needle hungry people. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-05 12:01 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Needle hungry people. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:33 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 15:57 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Needle hungry people. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-06 07:05 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 11:00 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Needle hungry people. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-10-06 13:50 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 13:12 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Needle hungry people. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 21:47 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Needle hungry people. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-07 12:02 -0500
                                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 07:59 -0600
                                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 13:15 -0500
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 15:07 -0700
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 22:11 +0000
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:47 -0700
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:37 -0600
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 18:58 -0500
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:26 +0000
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:57 -0600
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:19 +0000
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-01 19:22 +0100
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:37 +0000
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:16 -0600
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:44 +0100
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0600
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:38 -0500
                                              10 instances of my "C/C++ console" running simultaneously. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 07:51 -0700
                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:08 -0500
                                                  Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 11:55 -0400
                                                    Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 11:23 -0500
                                                      Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 13:48 -0400
                                                        Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 16:45 -0500
                                                          Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-09-30 19:11 -0400
                                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 19:40 -0500
                                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:16 -0600
                                                                Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 01:31 -0700
                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 13:31 -0500
                                                                    Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:38 +0000
                                                                      Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:28 -0600
                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 02:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 15:14 -0500
                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 20:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 16:56 -0500
                                                                            Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:50 +0000
                                                                              Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 17:05 -0500
                                                                                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 22:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 18:05 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 00:18 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 20:10 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 01:12 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 22:31 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:34 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 22:54 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:57 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 23:10 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 09:22 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:37 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:26 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:15 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 21:47 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 11:02 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 07:54 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 12:45 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:17 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                              Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 20:13 -0600
                                                                                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 02:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-04 21:35 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 03:56 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 23:53 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 09:23 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 13:11 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 20:30 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 16:37 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-05 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 18:35 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-06 00:07 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-05 20:24 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 22:09 -0500
                                                                          Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 20:43 -0600
                                                                            Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 04:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-03 20:28 -0600
                                                                    Re: Every cult begins with a shaky premise. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 18:13 -0500
                                                                      You don't have to explain speed to me, Clutterfreak. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 16:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: You don't have to explain speed to me, Clutterfreak. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 17:39 -0500
                                                                          When the walls fall, the wars start. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 17:56 -0700
                                                                          Two 20 year-olds, sleeping together. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-03 18:51 -0700
                                                                Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 15:02 -0500
                                                          I'm 49 % introvert & 51 % extrovert. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 17:36 -0700
                                                            Re: I'm 49 % introvert & 51 % extrovert. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 19:58 -0500
                                                    How is it that Google Groups gets it right ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 17:17 -0700
                                                      Re: How is it that Google Groups gets it right ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 21:02 -0500
                                                        Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 19:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 01:58 -0500
                                                            Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 03:23 -0400
                                                              Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 02:59 -0500
                                                                Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 03:09 -0500
                                                                Borrowing a "Subject:" line. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 01:47 -0700
                                                              I created Phy_Regs about 10 years ago, not yesterday. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-01 01:04 -0700
                                                          Re: Phy_Regs does what _I_ want, not what you want. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 12:22 -0400
                                                      Re: How is it that Jeff Relf gets it wrong?! Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-10-01 11:50 -0400
                                              Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 08:03 -0700
                                                Re: Thunderbird can be made to run "right" ( however you want it ). Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:14 -0500
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 10:36 -0500
                                            Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-09-30 18:25 +0000
                                              FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-09-30 16:16 -0700
                                                Re: FORTH, C & C++, in that order, have advantages. ivan <ivan@mail.ru> - 2021-10-05 14:00 +0200
                                                  FORTH is close to the metal & has stood the test of time. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-05 11:02 -0700
                                                    Re: FORTH is close to the metal & has stood the test of time. Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2021-10-05 18:23 +0000
                                                    Postfix notation. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-06 09:46 -0700
                                                      Re: Postfix notation. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-10-06 12:02 -0500
                                                      Re: Postfix notation. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 12:57 -0500
                                                        BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-06 12:40 -0700
                                                          Re: BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-10-06 15:27 -0500
                                                          Re: BigTech, BigMedia & BigGovernment did it first. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 20:26 -0500
                                                            Clutterfreak's "mind". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-06 18:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Clutterfreak's "mind". Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 21:08 -0500
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 19:52 -0500
                                              Re: I think in FORTH & program in C/C++. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 21:18 -0600
                                  Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:07 -0600
                                    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:26 +0100
                                      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:59 -0600
                                        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:04 +0100
                                    Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 10:57 -0500
                                      Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:01 -0500
                                        Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:04 +0100
                                          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 15:03 -0500
                                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:48 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:39 -0600
                                        Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:11 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 20:29 +0100
                                            Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 17:56 -0500
                                              Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 21:00 -0600
                                                Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 12:03 +0100
                                                  Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 08:06 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-30 20:23 +0100
                                                      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-30 20:11 -0600
                                                      Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Linux Crashing Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-01 20:13 -0600
                                                          Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 09:42 +0100
                                                            Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 12:46 -0600
                                                              while(1) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-10-02 11:56 -0700
                                                          Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-02 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 14:51 -0400
                                                              Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-10-02 21:22 -0600
                                                              Re: Linux Crashing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Linux Crashing Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-02 15:07 -0400
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                                      Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 20:14 -0600
                                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 08:02 -0600
                                  Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 15:09 +0100
                                    Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:48 -0600
                          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 00:37 -0500
                            Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:57 +0100
                          Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
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                        Re: Linux Crashing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-09-29 06:25 -0500
                          Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 11:50 -0500
                          Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-29 19:40 -0600
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                Re: Linux Crashing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-09-28 07:49 -0600
                  Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-28 11:37 -0500
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    Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 09:37 -0400
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    Re: Linux Crashing The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-09-27 09:50 -0700
      Re: Linux Crashing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-09-27 18:33 +0100
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              Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 17:05 -0500
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        Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 15:38 -0500
          Re: Linux Crashing RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-09-27 21:44 -0400
            Re: Linux Crashing Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 22:50 -0500
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#833299

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-29 20:27 -0600
Message-ID<irklkiF24m0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833259
On 09/29/2021 11:01 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 9/29/2021 10:57 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> I can't say that I've met a programming language that I didn't like.
>
>
> I don't like javascript. Period. It's got real problems. By the time it
> was developed, programming languages had migrated from creators who were
> essentially scientists to two-bit little "engineers" who'd packed those
> desk jobs by then, creating newer ones. Complements of Reagan era.
>
> To this day all real businesses are run by programming languages that
> were already invented before the wave of "Engineers" arrived and fucked
> everything up.
>
>
>
>

We're developing a product using Angular which implies TypeScript. 
Overall TypeScript is a good idea but I get frustrated with the nuances 
of using an arrow function so you can access this.that and 
this.otherThing outside of the scope. There's also a bit of React in the 
brew so you're dealing with async, await, and Promises.

My goto is C. I'm not fond of C++ although I use it. It suffered from a 
bunch of academic book writers who felt compelled to use all the 
features so you spend your time writing subsets of Animal so Cat goes 
meow and Dog goes woof. I haven't seen the latest edition but in the 
first edition Stroustrup uses all that crap very sparingly.

C# isn't bad. Doing COM with C++ is a pain in the ass and C# abstracts a 
lot of the pain away. It's all there under the syntactic sugar but I've 
reached the point where the thrill of dealing with it is long gone.

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#833297

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-29 20:14 -0600
Message-ID<irkkruF1vpdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833255
On 09/29/2021 09:57 AM, chrisv wrote:
> rbowman wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> My college programming classes used Pascal.  EE curriculum.
>>
>> I loved Pascal. The University of Maine used it for a didactic language
>> and many of the new engineering hires used it. I made some bucks writing
>> dll's so Pascal could talk to real world instrumentation, robotic arms,
>> and so forth.
>>
>> The original, pure design by Wirth was characterized as 'a computer
>> language only good for telling itself secrets' .
>
> I can't say that I've met a programming language that I didn't like.
> I probably should have gotten a job programming, because I've always
> enjoyed doing it.
>
> Programming with Pascal was certainly a good learning experience.  I'd
> done a lot of programming previously (even for a living), mostly in
> BASIC.  But I really learned how to program "correctly" (well
> structured, etc) in college with Pascal.
>

Scheme came close for me. When one of our programmers died we bought his 
books to help out his widow and I got the Wizard book and a couple of 
others.

https://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/sicp/index.html

I worked my way through it one winter. Scheme was conceptually 
interesting but in the back of my mind I was always asking myself why 
the hell anybody would do it that way.

FORTH was fun and netted me a job. With a very small kernel in assembler 
it can compile itself.

https://www.amazon.com/Threaded-Interpretive-Languages-Design-Implementation/dp/007038360X

If you ever stumble over that in a used book store it's worth a couple 
of bucks. It's not FORTH specific,

I did pass on one FORTH job offer. The pay was excellent but it was in 
Riyadh...

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#833249

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-29 08:02 -0600
Message-ID<irj9vtFom27U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833236
On 09/29/2021 12:59 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 9/28/2021 11:54 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> all the drives, old RAM, and so forth went into the dumpster.
>
> In late 80s I dug three Commodore 64 computers from our dumpster :)
> power supplies included. I was still in school so I didn't need a "home"
> computer yet, plus modems that school provided to students to use at
> home were I think only 300 baud. Too lethargic to connect those heavy
> vt100 terminals to school computers from home. So for me computing was
> something always done in school. But some students had purchased Apples
> and IBM XTs etc. Two of these three Commodores were fully functional and
> I gradually adopted them as my home computer.

I never worked with a 64. One of my clients in the early '80s was 
Sprague Electric at their tantalum capacitor plant in Maine. They had a 
number of Commodore PETs. They were clunky but they had a  IEEE-488 
(HPIB) interface for the peripherals. Sprague had Hewlett Packard 
instrumentation for many of the processes that used the bus. A HP 
desktop computer went for about $3000. You could buy about five PETs for 
that.

>
> Soon I taught myself C on one of them, if you can believe that! In
> school they were still referring to C as "the language of the future."

In the late '80s? That's about right. Schools tend to be a generation 
behind what is happening.

> So Commodore 64, it looks like, was already "vintage" in 1989. After I
> acquired the Commodores I began frequenting a computer assignment store
> that sold people's old and new stuff and kept 30% of the money and gave
> 70% to owners. It was a heaven for "vintage" parts, systems, manuals,
> books, everything. I had found a funky half-finished C manual there in
> German coming with two disks for Commodore. That's how I learned C. In
> school everybody used Fortran in science depts and PL-1 in business depts.

I learned FORTRAN IV on an IBM System/360 Model 30. It had 32K of core, 
real core, and the programs were submitted on Hollerith cards. A 64 was 
a real step up.

> Anyway, I'm so "vintage" myself that even today in 2021 if I get my
> hands on a Commodore 64 I begin immediately to enjoy doing fun stuff
> with it. I have at least 50 little programs from those years written in
> Commodore's basic and C which are entrapped inside a bad old HD that
> crashed and my attempts to revive them only made things worse. Even if I
> had kept my cassettes that I used for storing programs I'd have better
> chance now to access them.

http://www.ccs64.com/


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#833251

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-09-29 15:09 +0100
Message-ID<sj1s2h$qbc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#833249
On 29/09/2021 15:02, rbowman wrote:
> I learned FORTRAN IV on an IBM System/360 Model 30. It had 32K of core, 
> real core, and the programs were submitted on Hollerith cards. A 64 was 
> a real step up.

I think I learnt on an Elliott - I never actually saw the computer.
We wrote programs on paper tape using a flexowriter, and got the results 
on fanfold from a line printer a week later at the next class.

The next step for me was a CP/M Sharp MZ80 machine,with a built in 
screen and keyboards. And floppy disk drives. 1980 that was.

the rapid turn round of code to program convinced me that computers 
might actually be usable after all.



-- 
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit 
atrocities.”

― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de 
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de 
M. de Voltaire

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#833295

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-29 19:48 -0600
Message-ID<irkjbdF1nt5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833251
On 09/29/2021 08:09 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 29/09/2021 15:02, rbowman wrote:
>> I learned FORTRAN IV on an IBM System/360 Model 30. It had 32K of
>> core, real core, and the programs were submitted on Hollerith cards. A
>> 64 was a real step up.
>
> I think I learnt on an Elliott - I never actually saw the computer.
> We wrote programs on paper tape using a flexowriter, and got the results
> on fanfold from a line printer a week later at the next class.
>
> The next step for me was a CP/M Sharp MZ80 machine,with a built in
> screen and keyboards. And floppy disk drives. 1980 that was.
>
> the rapid turn round of code to program convinced me that computers
> might actually be usable after all.
>
>
>

I wasn't impressed by the 360 and it's peripherals that looked like 
refrigerators. After I graduated I did hardware design. Ultimately TTL 
let to microprocessors and whne I had something I could wirewrap up on 
the kitchen table I got interested.

Even then I lived on the hardware edge, ion concentration meters, 
semiconductor sputtering systems, environmental chamber controls, 
aircraft fuel measurement and management systems, and so forth. It 
wasn't until my current job that I did anything with a UI other than 
panel buttons and switches. Just as well since I suck at UX. If you 
can't do it from Konsole, it ain't worth doing.

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#833234

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-09-29 00:37 -0500
Message-ID<sj0u3r$1a3$1@solani.org>
In reply to#833228
On 9/28/2021 10:53 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On 09/28/2021 02:55 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> And of course he was no businessman :) Neither am I. He'd left the max
>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>> one would go to waste with him.
> 
> 24GB of DDR2 isn't exactly in high demand unless you're nursing a 
> vintage box.
> 
> 


Hehe :) I didn't know my S20 is now considered "vintage" :)

When I bought it 4 years ago it was a heck of a computer, and today when 
I ran some stuff on it, it was still a heck of a computer. I can't run 
autocad and one of my more demanding programs at the same time on my 
other computers. But on S20 they run as if the other isn't even there :)

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#833243

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-09-29 11:57 +0100
Message-ID<sj1gqb$1vr$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#833234
On 29/09/2021 06:37, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 9/28/2021 10:53 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On 09/28/2021 02:55 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>> And of course he was no businessman :) Neither am I. He'd left the max
>>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>>> one would go to waste with him.
>>
>> 24GB of DDR2 isn't exactly in high demand unless you're nursing a 
>> vintage box.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Hehe :) I didn't know my S20 is now considered "vintage" :)
> 
> When I bought it 4 years ago it was a heck of a computer, and today when 
> I ran some stuff on it, it was still a heck of a computer. I can't run 
> autocad and one of my more demanding programs at the same time on my 
> other computers. But on S20 they run as if the other isn't even there :)
> 
yes. that chip had a lot of cores - multitasking server was its target 
market

-- 
In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

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#833242

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
Message-ID<sj1gnl$1vr$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#833228
On 29/09/2021 04:53, rbowman wrote:
> On 09/28/2021 02:55 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> And of course he was no businessman :) Neither am I. He'd left the max
>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>> one would go to waste with him.
> 
> 24GB of DDR2 isn't exactly in high demand unless you're nursing a 
> vintage box.
> 
> 
ECC RAM too, probably


-- 
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- George Orwell

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#833241

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-09-29 11:55 +0100
Message-ID<sj1gn0$1vr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#833212
On 28/09/2021 21:55, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 9/28/2021 1:31 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> I love the idea of it. I am sad you didn't put Mint on it, but it may 
>> well be a great Windows gaming machine
>>
>> I think it is a total bargain especially since its now reliable.
>>
>> It is crying out for an SSD and Linux :-)
> 
> Hehe :) We spent about 15 minutes talking before I drove off with the 
> computer but I didn't find out what the seller was using it for before.
> 
> I'm not into gaming and he sure didn't look like he was. My guess is he 
> had academic background and position. His conduct, mastery of English, 
> and the way he was groomed kind of indicated that.
> 
> And of course he was no businessman :) Neither am I. He'd left the max 
> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this 
> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this 
> one would go to waste with him.
> 
He probably got it out of a university server room. Kit like that has 
almost no resale value because its obsolescent for its original purpose 
and home users dont recognise it or know what to do with it

I'd be using that to crunch videos or play games on I think
> 
> 
> 


-- 
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and 
all women"

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#833244

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2021-09-29 06:25 -0500
Message-ID<k6j8lg5t8hcmap7u8pivg45ba39k2f92v3@4ax.com>
In reply to#833212
Clutterfreak wrote:

>He'd left the max 
>24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this 
>jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this 
>one would go to waste with him.

Heh.  One shouldn't get emotionally attacked to old, obsolete computer
hardware.  But we do anyway...  8)

I'm actually thinking about selling my Amiga.

-- 
"recovering from Covid means you're immune, truly immune"  -  RonB,
lying shamelessly

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#833257

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-09-29 11:50 -0500
Message-ID<sj25hi$ifl$1@solani.org>
In reply to#833244
On 9/29/2021 6:25 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Clutterfreak wrote:
> 
>> He'd left the max
>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>> one would go to waste with him.
> 
> Heh.  One shouldn't get emotionally attacked to old, obsolete computer
> hardware.  But we do anyway...  8)
> 
> I'm actually thinking about selling my Amiga.
> 


Amiga was EXPENSIVE even then in that consignment store.

That wonderful store closed 2 or 3 short years later. I have a hunch why 
and how, cause its business was great and would stay great for decades 
to come.

They'd newly hired a crook (the one who handled Apple type machines, 
parts, books, and software) who was a part time student. He was their 
Apple expert. I think by the time they discovered what he was doing it 
was too late for the business. A whole lot of others like me must've 
noticed it.

There were no returns on what you bought, and this guy would switch what 
you paid for with an identical but non-functioning one while you weren't 
looking, or while he was placing it inside a carry box elsewhere. And 
store took the side of their employees, not the customers' when they 
returned the non-working products, cause some customers were crooks 
themselves trying to outsmart the business.

Could be that somebody probably sued them at last! Any business can deal 
successfully with crooks among customers, but not when even one employee 
of theirs is a crook.


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#833292

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-29 19:40 -0600
Message-ID<irkirrF1ldgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833244
On 09/29/2021 05:25 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Clutterfreak wrote:
>
>> He'd left the max
>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>> one would go to waste with him.
>
> Heh.  One shouldn't get emotionally attacked to old, obsolete computer
> hardware.  But we do anyway...  8)
>
> I'm actually thinking about selling my Amiga.
>

I'm not attached but I still have my Compaq Concerto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Concerto

I paid $1500 for it when they came out in '93. It was a little chunky 
but when I see things like the Surface Pro 7 I think 'Haven't I been 
here before 28 years ago?'

I don't think the Concerto lasted a year. I knew a woman who worked in a 
computer store and when I went in looking for a laptop she said 'Come 
into the back room and see the neat thing we just got in.' I told her to 
put it back in the box while I was writing the check. The computer has a 
lot of miles on it since it went trucking with me.

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#833294

FromBranimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date2021-09-30 01:43 +0000
Message-ID<cD85J.7326$fZ.1393@fx06.iad>
In reply to#833292
On 2021-09-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On 09/29/2021 05:25 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> Clutterfreak wrote:
>>
>>> He'd left the max
>>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>>> one would go to waste with him.
>>
>> Heh.  One shouldn't get emotionally attacked to old, obsolete computer
>> hardware.  But we do anyway...  8)
>>
>> I'm actually thinking about selling my Amiga.
>>
>
> I'm not attached but I still have my Compaq Concerto.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Concerto
>
> I paid $1500 for it when they came out in '93. It was a little chunky 
> but when I see things like the Surface Pro 7 I think 'Haven't I been 
> here before 28 years ago?'
>
> I don't think the Concerto lasted a year. I knew a woman who worked in a 
> computer store and when I went in looking for a laptop she said 'Come 
> into the back room and see the neat thing we just got in.' I told her to 
> put it back in the box while I was writing the check. The computer has a 
> lot of miles on it since it went trucking with me.
I am really fascinated with Apple tehcnollogy. Will never buy anything
else :P

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#833322

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-30 07:48 -0600
Message-ID<irltheF9dm5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833294
On 09/29/2021 07:43 PM, Branimir Maksimovic wrote:
> On 2021-09-30, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On 09/29/2021 05:25 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>> Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>
>>>> He'd left the max
>>>> 24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
>>>> jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
>>>> one would go to waste with him.
>>>
>>> Heh.  One shouldn't get emotionally attacked to old, obsolete computer
>>> hardware.  But we do anyway...  8)
>>>
>>> I'm actually thinking about selling my Amiga.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not attached but I still have my Compaq Concerto.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Concerto
>>
>> I paid $1500 for it when they came out in '93. It was a little chunky
>> but when I see things like the Surface Pro 7 I think 'Haven't I been
>> here before 28 years ago?'
>>
>> I don't think the Concerto lasted a year. I knew a woman who worked in a
>> computer store and when I went in looking for a laptop she said 'Come
>> into the back room and see the neat thing we just got in.' I told her to
>> put it back in the box while I was writing the check. The computer has a
>> lot of miles on it since it went trucking with me.
> I am really fascinated with Apple tehcnollogy. Will never buy anything
> else :P
>

First, a clarification: the Concerto as a Compaq device was discontinued 
quickly with little fanfare. afaik, mine would still work if I dug it out.

The only Apple device I've ever owned is a iShuffle gifted to me by my 
boss one Christmas. As I've said before, nobody ever wanted to pay me to 
develop software for an Apple so I had no need for one.

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#833310

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2021-09-29 23:53 -0700
Message-ID<61555EDC.745C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#833244
chrisv wrote:
> 
> Clutterfreak wrote:
> 
> >He'd left the max
> >24g RAM and the graphics card in it intact. His concern was that this
> >jewel doesn't go to waste. With the new S-something he'd purchased this
> >one would go to waste with him.
> 
> Heh.  One shouldn't get emotionally attacked to old, obsolete computer
> hardware.  But we do anyway...  8)
> 
> I'm actually thinking about selling my Amiga.
> 
> --
> "recovering from Covid means you're immune, truly immune"  -  RonB,
> lying shamelessly


I have old programs I like to run again..but requires:

 NewsAgent111-BE.zip for
    BeOS 5 - Kaffe for BeOS
    RedHat Linux - Sun's Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 

or:
 NewsAgent111-MS.exe for
Windows 95 - \Windows\System 


What kind of computer runs Windows 95???


Which runs  NewsAgent better, RedHat Linux or Windows 95


i just want to mess around with it..


-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#833320

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-09-30 12:06 +0100
Message-ID<sj45ns$spr$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#833310
On 30/09/2021 07:53, The Starmaker wrote:
> What kind of computer runs Windows 95???

A linux computer with VirtualBox


-- 
For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the 
very definition of slavery.

Jonathan Swift

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#833194

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2021-09-28 07:49 -0600
Message-ID<irgkr8F94nsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#833177
On 09/27/2021 10:30 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 9/27/2021 9:21 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>
>> Is it a separate video card? I've had them go bad. The problem around
>> here is none of the stores sell cheap cards. No money in that.
>
> I don't quite understand what you mean. The video card on this computer
> is inside it of course (ATI FirePro).
>

Quite a few processors integrate the GPU and use system RAM. AMD calls 
them APUs but some Xeons did the same.

A discrete card can have a failing GPU or bad RAM.

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#833198

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-09-28 11:37 -0500
Message-ID<sivgcp$hrn$1@solani.org>
In reply to#833194
On 9/28/2021 8:49 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On 09/27/2021 10:30 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> On 9/27/2021 9:21 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it a separate video card? I've had them go bad. The problem around
>>> here is none of the stores sell cheap cards. No money in that.
>>
>> I don't quite understand what you mean. The video card on this computer
>> is inside it of course (ATI FirePro).
>>
> 
> Quite a few processors integrate the GPU and use system RAM. AMD calls 
> them APUs but some Xeons did the same.
> 
> A discrete card can have a failing GPU or bad RAM.


As far as I know the card on this computer was years newer than the 
computer itself. It was "almost" new when I purchased the system.

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#833132

FromRabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar>
Date2021-09-27 09:36 -0400
Message-ID<aNj4J.59107$jm6.57834@fx07.iad>
In reply to#833127
On 2021-09-27 8:52 a.m., Clutterfreak wrote:
> I've installed Linux Mint XFCE on my desktop but it crashes less than 
> one minute after each booting.
> 
> Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5675  @ 3.07GHz   3.06 GHz
> 
> System type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> 
> Is there another Linux version that'd work without issues on this system?

Honestly, I would recommend that you stay away from anything based on 
Ubuntu. I was a fan of it until I realized that you're going to find a 
lot more stability with other distributions.

Of course, by saying so, I'm also falling into the Linux advocate "trap" 
of always recommending something else whenever someone faces a problem.

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#833133

FromRabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar>
Date2021-09-27 09:37 -0400
Message-ID<pOj4J.59108$jm6.23993@fx07.iad>
In reply to#833127
On 2021-09-27 8:52 a.m., Clutterfreak wrote:
> I've installed Linux Mint XFCE on my desktop but it crashes less than 
> one minute after each booting.
> 
> Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5675  @ 3.07GHz   3.06 GHz
> 
> System type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> 
> Is there another Linux version that'd work without issues on this system?

I forgot to make an actual recommendation: openSUSE.


-- 
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Proud LibreOffice and Thunderbird donor
Supporter of independent journalism
Pure blood
John 15:18

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