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Re: Plonk.

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First post2021-09-15 13:13 -0700
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  Re: Plonk. Plain dumb <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-09-15 13:13 -0700
    Re: Plonk. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-09-15 16:15 -0500
    Re: Plonk. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-09-16 06:18 -0700
      Re: Plonk. Lou <noelturntive@live.co.uk> - 2021-09-16 06:50 -0700
      Re: Plonk. Max Moron <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-09-16 09:30 -0700

#832447 — Re: Plonk.

FromPlain dumb <tsp2opt@gmail.com>
Date2021-09-15 13:13 -0700
SubjectRe: Plonk.
Message-ID<928be758-87b5-4038-9903-88da2893039cn@googlegroups.com>
On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-7, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 09:23:44 UTC+10, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: 
> > Jim_Pennino replied ( to ClutterFreak ): 
> > > > Wuhan's work on this virus was funded by the U.S. Government 
> > > 
> > > And this has what to do with physics, dimwit ?
> What does anyone but I have to do with physics, here?

Well, I've published papers in refereed journals about
chemical applications of density functional theory,
which is a type of quantum mechanics, which is a type
of physics.  Does that count?  We could discuss 
barrier heights for some common organic reactions 
as calculated by DFT compared to traditional
Hartree-Fock.

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#832452

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2021-09-15 16:15 -0500
Message-ID<iqf63eFqds4U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#832447
On 9/15/2021 3:13 PM, Plain dumb wrote:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-7, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 09:23:44 UTC+10, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>> Jim_Pennino replied ( to ClutterFreak ):
>>>>> Wuhan's work on this virus was funded by the U.S. Government
>>>>
>>>> And this has what to do with physics, dimwit ?
>> What does anyone but I have to do with physics, here?
> 
> Well, I've published papers in refereed journals about
> chemical applications of density functional theory,
> which is a type of quantum mechanics, which is a type
> of physics.  Does that count?  We could discuss
> barrier heights for some common organic reactions
> as calculated by DFT compared to traditional
> Hartree-Fock.
> 

Banerjee was confused at the "Well" above.

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#832502

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2021-09-16 06:18 -0700
Message-ID<ede4ccb8-848d-4ea4-9fe0-2ecaa64a5fa0n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#832447
On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 06:14:02 UTC+10, Plain dumb wrote:
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-7, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 09:23:44 UTC+10, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: 
> > > Jim_Pennino replied ( to ClutterFreak ): 
> > > > > Wuhan's work on this virus was funded by the U.S. Government 
> > > > 
> > > > And this has what to do with physics, dimwit ? 
> > What does anyone but I have to do with physics, here? 
> 
> Well, I've published papers in refereed journals about 
> chemical applications of density functional theory, 
> which is a type of quantum mechanics, which is a type 
> of physics. Does that count?

No.

 We could discuss 
> barrier heights for some common organic reactions 
> as calculated by DFT compared to traditional 
> Hartree-Fock.

Physics is about sense, not bullshit.

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#832508

FromLou <noelturntive@live.co.uk>
Date2021-09-16 06:50 -0700
Message-ID<5adaa4ff-69c6-41a4-babf-c80dd2294db9n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#832502
On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 14:18:09 UTC+1, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 06:14:02 UTC+10, Plain dumb wrote: 
> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-7, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 09:23:44 UTC+10, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: 
> > > > Jim_Pennino replied ( to ClutterFreak ): 
> > > > > > Wuhan's work on this virus was funded by the U.S. Government 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And this has what to do with physics, dimwit ? 
> > > What does anyone but I have to do with physics, here? 
> > 
> > Well, I've published papers in refereed journals about 
> > chemical applications of density functional theory, 
> > which is a type of quantum mechanics, which is a type 
> > of physics. Does that count?
> No.
> We could discuss 
> > barrier heights for some common organic reactions 
> > as calculated by DFT compared to traditional 
> > Hartree-Fock.
> Physics is about sense, not bullshit.
Interesting considering physics in the 20th century is about ignoring good sense. 
Hence wackos like Albert and Heisenberg rule the roost.

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#832522

FromMax Moron <tsp2opt@gmail.com>
Date2021-09-16 09:30 -0700
Message-ID<cd40802a-05e2-42b8-ad08-46819d7cdc8fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#832502
On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:18:09 AM UTC-7, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 06:14:02 UTC+10, Plain dumb wrote: 
> > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:06:50 PM UTC-7, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > On Monday, 31 May 2021 at 09:23:44 UTC+10, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: 
> > > > Jim_Pennino replied ( to ClutterFreak ): 
> > > > > > Wuhan's work on this virus was funded by the U.S. Government 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And this has what to do with physics, dimwit ? 
> > > What does anyone but I have to do with physics, here? 
> > 
> > Well, I've published papers in refereed journals about 
> > chemical applications of density functional theory, 
> > which is a type of quantum mechanics, which is a type 
> > of physics. Does that count?
> No.
Why not?  We found that while
the barriers calculated by DFT tended to be too low 
compared to experimental data, they were better than
barriers calculated by Hartree-Fock. Also, we found that
the adiabatic connection method worked very well too.
You know, where a portion of the exact Hartree-Fock 
exchange is mixed in to the density functional.
> > We could discuss 
> > barrier heights for some common organic reactions 
> > as calculated by DFT compared to traditional 
> > Hartree-Fock.
> Physics is about sense, not bullshit.
We could calculate the barrier heights using DFT
and your equation and see whose answer is closer to 
experimental data.  

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