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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800 |
| Last post | 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800 |
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ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:27 -0600
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:34 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 04:52 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 23:59 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 06:44 +0000
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 11:57 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 13:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:55 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:36 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 13:24 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:48 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:56 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 22:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 00:10 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 02:23:02 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote: >On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 20:11:03 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:46:43 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >> (Bertietaylor) >> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 7:06:14 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >>> >>>> Gronk wrote: >>>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger >>>>>>> <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are >>>>>>>> mostly old. >>>>>>>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly >>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>> to defeat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at >>>>>>> the parade? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. >>>>> >>>>> Russia has lost so many they pulled them out of >>>>> storage. Cold war models. Stuff from the 1950s. >>>> >>>> Russian tactics is to have more tanks than enemy antitank rockets >>>> and more soldiers than enemy bullets. That way after they make >>>> their enemy expend all ammo, Russians can march past them. >>> >>>No, Putin tried to get it all on the cheap initially by not invading >>>with at least 4 million. >> >> He needed 4 million to invade an agrarian nation he'd already stripped >> of most >> of four of it's richest and most populist provinces? > >Get your facts right. They are right. The three eastern provinces and Crimea *were* the richest and industry heavy ones in Ukraine. Crimea *used to be* a major ag producer as well. >> Who do you think you're fooling? > >Fools don't need getting fooled. They are exploited by taxation, >invasion, etc. by their masters. Which is what's happening to the Russian people, then add the destruction of millions of lives to the mix. NP: Carole King - You Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman >>>But that seeming failure made Ukraine withdraw >>>troops from the East. Then Putin made a strategic retreat from the West >>>and attacked from the East, gaining territory and slowly expanding using >>>long range weapons. Not sure if this wasn't PlanB but PlanA_2. A_1 being >>>prudent Ukraine surrender and replacing Zelensky. >>> >>>Master strategist, Putin. >> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! >> >> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. Instead it increased to 31 >> members >> and they added 800 miles to his NATO border. LOL! >> >> His goal was to remove Zelensky and turn Ukraine into a puppet state. >> 750,000 >> dead and maimed Russians later, Zelensky is still in charge, admired >> across the >> planet and not only defending, but on the offensive. His nation, with >> no navy, >> has defeated the Russian Black Sea Fleet. >> >> Putin has turned Russia into a vassal state of China and eliminated any >> chance >> of future greatness for his nation. >> >>>The West's strategy is to let the Orthodox >>>chaps die and make Russia weak; that by using obsolete scrap weaponry >>>for Ukraine continuing the war, while making money for the elites with >>>orders for new weapons. >> >> The west doesn't even think about religion. The 'strategy' has been to >> do as >> much damage as possible to Russia's military and international standing. >> >>>If Ukraine won it would be hugely in debt and thus under absolute >>>control of the murky powers that would buy it all up cheap, with no >>>effort at all save gorging together at conferences. >> >> Sure, in your dreams. Took the UK until the 21 century to pay off all >> their >> WWII debt. The Obama admin had to negotiate debt forgiveness for Russia >> because >> they couldn't pay. >> >>>The universe still runs on a moral basis, evidently, so such bastardy >>>has not been rewarded with success. >> >> If it ran on a moral basis, Putin would be dead already. >> >> NP: Rob Thomas - All That I Am
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d2c6d6d9adb33d8814f3af30b9432157@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890671 |
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 20:11:03 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:46:43 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com > (Bertietaylor) > wrote: > >>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 7:06:14 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >> >>> Gronk wrote: >>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger >>>>>> <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are >>>>>>> mostly old. >>>>>>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly >>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>> to defeat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at >>>>>> the parade? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. >>>>> >>>>> That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. >>>> >>>> Russia has lost so many they pulled them out of >>>> storage. Cold war models. Stuff from the 1950s. >>> >>> Russian tactics is to have more tanks than enemy antitank rockets >>> and more soldiers than enemy bullets. That way after they make >>> their enemy expend all ammo, Russians can march past them. >> >>No, Putin tried to get it all on the cheap initially by not invading >>with at least 4 million. > > He needed 4 million to invade an agrarian nation he'd already stripped > of most > of four of it's richest and most populist provinces? Yes. > > Who do you think you're fooling? > >>But that seeming failure made Ukraine withdraw >>troops from the East. Then Putin made a strategic retreat from the West >>and attacked from the East, gaining territory and slowly expanding using >>long range weapons. Not sure if this wasn't PlanB but PlanA_2. A_1 being >>prudent Ukraine surrender and replacing Zelensky. >> >>Master strategist, Putin. > > BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! > > Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. In Ukraine. Instead it increased to 31 > members > and they added 800 miles to his NATO border. LOL! Putin does not care about those piddlers. Ukraine was seriously taken as a threat. > > His goal was to remove Zelensky and turn Ukraine into a puppet state. > 750,000 > dead and maimed Russians later, Zelensky is still in charge, admired > across the > planet and not only defending, but on the offensive. His nation, with > no navy, > has defeated the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Putin has no existential threat from hostile Nato state Ukraine. He has got extra rich property worth 12 trillion dollars. Not bad. Made fools out of the West, fooled their grabby desires. Now failing there, idea for the US is to grab Greenland etc. and should have better luck there. > > Putin has turned Russia into a vassal state of China and eliminated any > chance > of future greatness for his nation. Nonsense. Putin is on good terms with China and India and thirdworld, Great politician, outsmarted you fools. > >>The West's strategy is to let the Orthodox >>chaps die and make Russia weak; that by using obsolete scrap weaponry >>for Ukraine continuing the war, while making money for the elites with >>orders for new weapons. > > The west doesn't even think about religion. What a lie. Maga chaps are very religious. The 'strategy' has been to > do as > much damage as possible to Russia's military and international standing. Has not worked. Failed miserably. > >>If Ukraine won it would be hugely in debt and thus under absolute >>control of the murky powers that would buy it all up cheap, with no >>effort at all save gorging together at conferences. > > Sure, in your dreams. Took the UK until the 21 century to pay off all > their > WWII debt. The Obama admin had to negotiate debt forgiveness for Russia > because > they couldn't pay. > >>The universe still runs on a moral basis, evidently, so such bastardy >>has not been rewarded with success. > > If it ran on a moral basis, Putin would be dead already. > > NP: Rob Thomas - All That I Am
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vm4skf$29ol1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890676 |
Bertietaylor wrote: >> >> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. > > In Ukraine. > If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances on its own. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2f1e2cc027a2f7e8fe9a064fbcf67bbb@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890677 |
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:27:39 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: > Bertietaylor wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >> >> In Ukraine. >> > > If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances > on its own. It also should depend upon itself on its own for its sovereignty. Or have treaty arrangements.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <99hfojtuvpbsn0r06dsm9qptrqgu7ami4d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890678 |
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:26:23 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote: >On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:27:39 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: > >> Bertietaylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >>> >>> In Ukraine. >>> >> >> If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances >> on its own. >It also should depend upon itself on its own for its sovereignty. Or >have treaty arrangements. Which, apparently, it now does. NP: Carole King - Beautiful
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <00ba309700c5262f97588f0ab6f2b321@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890685 |
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:25:34 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:26:23 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com > (Bertietaylor) > wrote: > >>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:27:39 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >> >>> Bertietaylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >>>> >>>> In Ukraine. >>>> >>> >>> If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances >>> on its own. >>It also should depend upon itself on its own for its sovereignty. Or >>have treaty arrangements. > > Which, apparently, it now does. Actually it is not a NATO member, and unlikely to become one. > > NP: Carole King - Beautiful
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8s8ooj1ghgjl7a9cgmsl7bhsklge585vlh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890686 |
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:32:22 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:25:34 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:26:23 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >> (Bertietaylor) >> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:27:39 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >>> >>>> Bertietaylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >>>>> >>>>> In Ukraine. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances >>>> on its own. >>>It also should depend upon itself on its own for its sovereignty. Or >>>have treaty arrangements. >> >> Which, apparently, it now does. > >Actually it is not a NATO member, and unlikely to become one. I didn't say it was, idiot. Maybe you've been reading somebody else's post. NP: Tina Turner - Steamy Windows (Live in Arnhem)
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a7fccac1f636187418a870c25fcff1ef@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890728 |
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 21:57:46 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:32:22 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com > (Bertietaylor) > wrote: > >>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:25:34 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:26:23 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >>> (Bertietaylor) >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:27:39 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bertietaylor wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Ukraine. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances >>>>> on its own. >>>>It also should depend upon itself on its own for its sovereignty. Or >>>>have treaty arrangements. >>> >>> Which, apparently, it now does. >> >>Actually it is not a NATO member, and unlikely to become one. > > I didn't say it was, idiot. Maybe you've been reading somebody else's > post. You are not important to us, arsehole. Fuck off. > > NP: Tina Turner - Steamy Windows (Live in Arnhem)
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vmhs2i$1fgfj$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890736 |
Bertietaylor wrote: > You are not important to us, arsehole. > Fuck off. Please tell me how important I am. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7b3rojlan3dpo6ff581ao8fored10oprff@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890736 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 02:21:47 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote: >On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 21:57:46 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:32:22 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >> (Bertietaylor) >> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:25:34 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 08:26:23 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >>>> (Bertietaylor) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:27:39 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bertietaylor wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Ukraine. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If Ukraine is a sovereign nation, it gets to choose its alliances >>>>>> on its own. >>>>>It also should depend upon itself on its own for its sovereignty. Or >>>>>have treaty arrangements. >>>> >>>> Which, apparently, it now does. >>> >>>Actually it is not a NATO member, and unlikely to become one. >> >> I didn't say it was, idiot. Maybe you've been reading somebody else's >> post. > >You are not important to us, arsehole. >Fuck off. Then why have you been responding to my posts?
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3dgfojd3vn5ksb80sdsr23bsf437sptg78@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890676 |
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:15:48 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote: >On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 20:11:03 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:46:43 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >> (Bertietaylor) >> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 7:06:14 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >>> >>>> Gronk wrote: >>>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger >>>>>>> <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are >>>>>>>> mostly old. >>>>>>>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly >>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>> to defeat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at >>>>>>> the parade? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. >>>>> >>>>> Russia has lost so many they pulled them out of >>>>> storage. Cold war models. Stuff from the 1950s. >>>> >>>> Russian tactics is to have more tanks than enemy antitank rockets >>>> and more soldiers than enemy bullets. That way after they make >>>> their enemy expend all ammo, Russians can march past them. >>> >>>No, Putin tried to get it all on the cheap initially by not invading >>>with at least 4 million. >> >> He needed 4 million to invade an agrarian nation he'd already stripped >> of most >> of four of it's richest and most populist provinces? >Yes. >> >> Who do you think you're fooling? >> >>>But that seeming failure made Ukraine withdraw >>>troops from the East. Then Putin made a strategic retreat from the West >>>and attacked from the East, gaining territory and slowly expanding using >>>long range weapons. Not sure if this wasn't PlanB but PlanA_2. A_1 being >>>prudent Ukraine surrender and replacing Zelensky. >>> >>>Master strategist, Putin. >> >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! >> >> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. > >In Ukraine. > >Instead it increased to 31 >> members >> and they added 800 miles to his NATO border. LOL! > >Putin does not care about those piddlers. Ukraine was seriously taken as >a threat. Then Putin is a fool. Finland and Sweden piddlers compared to Ukraine's military? Is there no end to the lies you'll tell yourself about Putin's incompetence? >> His goal was to remove Zelensky and turn Ukraine into a puppet state. >> 750,000 >> dead and maimed Russians later, Zelensky is still in charge, admired >> across the >> planet and not only defending, but on the offensive. His nation, with >> no navy, >> has defeated the Russian Black Sea Fleet. > >Putin has no existential threat from hostile Nato state Ukraine. He has >got extra rich property worth 12 trillion dollars. Considering Ukraine's GDP *before* the Russian invasion was less than $200B, your lie becomes quickly evident. >Not bad. Considering what he stole is so heavily damaged it can't produce squat anymore, I'd say that far from being a master strategist, Putin is an ill advised idiot. >Made fools >out of the West, fooled their grabby desires. Now failing there, idea >for the US is to grab Greenland etc. and should have better luck there. Now you're stopped making any sense at all. Russia has been made a fool of. Its military is crap, its Navy a laughing stock and its economy collapsing. >> Putin has turned Russia into a vassal state of China and eliminated any >> chance >> of future greatness for his nation. > >Nonsense. Putin is on good terms with China and India and thirdworld, >Great politician, outsmarted you fools. That must be why India has stopped buying Russian weapons. China, ditto. They buy just enough to copy them so they don't have to buy anymore. Both are getting Russian energy dirt cheap because Putin can't sell it to anybody else. Even that's going away as his shadow tanker fleet sinks, spoiling beaches, and get confiscated for incompetence on the sea. >>>The West's strategy is to let the Orthodox >>>chaps die and make Russia weak; that by using obsolete scrap weaponry >>>for Ukraine continuing the war, while making money for the elites with >>>orders for new weapons. >> >> The west doesn't even think about religion. > >What a lie. Maga chaps are very religious. LOL! MAGA isn't running the "west", you moron. >The 'strategy' has been to >> do as >> much damage as possible to Russia's military and international standing. > > >Has not worked. Failed miserably. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Is that why Putin is depending on out of date and dud shells from North Korea? How about those heroic (/s) North Korean troops he had to buy because he can't get Russians to sign up anymore? His best friend, Iran, is still using American F-14 Tomcats and Chinook helicopters built in the 1960s from 1950s designs! NP: Paul Davis - Sweet Life >>>If Ukraine won it would be hugely in debt and thus under absolute >>>control of the murky powers that would buy it all up cheap, with no >>>effort at all save gorging together at conferences. >> >> Sure, in your dreams. Took the UK until the 21 century to pay off all >> their >> WWII debt. The Obama admin had to negotiate debt forgiveness for Russia >> because >> they couldn't pay. >> >>>The universe still runs on a moral basis, evidently, so such bastardy >>>has not been rewarded with success. >> >> If it ran on a moral basis, Putin would be dead already. >> >> NP: Rob Thomas - All That I Am
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9ec5ed3fb58d8cebe93c6248067943d6@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890684 |
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 14:24:03 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 03:15:48 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com > (Bertietaylor) > wrote: > >>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 20:11:03 +0000, Governor Swill wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:46:43 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >>> (Bertietaylor) >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 7:06:14 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gronk wrote: >>>>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:39 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:49:48 +0100, Thomas Heger >>>>>>>> <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Russian also have an insane amount of tanks, which are >>>>>>>>> mostly old. >>>>>>>>> But the newer 'Armata' tanks are very powerful and certainly >>>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>>> to defeat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Both of them? Or just the one that broke down in Red Square at >>>>>>>> the parade? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have heard the Russians have about 12000 tanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is about 40 times the number of tanks in Germany. >>>>>> >>>>>> Russia has lost so many they pulled them out of >>>>>> storage. Cold war models. Stuff from the 1950s. >>>>> >>>>> Russian tactics is to have more tanks than enemy antitank rockets >>>>> and more soldiers than enemy bullets. That way after they make >>>>> their enemy expend all ammo, Russians can march past them. >>>> >>>>No, Putin tried to get it all on the cheap initially by not invading >>>>with at least 4 million. >>> >>> He needed 4 million to invade an agrarian nation he'd already stripped >>> of most >>> of four of it's richest and most populist provinces? >>Yes. >>> >>> Who do you think you're fooling? >>> >>>>But that seeming failure made Ukraine withdraw >>>>troops from the East. Then Putin made a strategic retreat from the West >>>>and attacked from the East, gaining territory and slowly expanding using >>>>long range weapons. Not sure if this wasn't PlanB but PlanA_2. A_1 being >>>>prudent Ukraine surrender and replacing Zelensky. >>>> >>>>Master strategist, Putin. >>> >>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! >>> >>> Yeah, his goal was to stop NATO expansion. >> >>In Ukraine. >> >>Instead it increased to 31 >>> members >>> and they added 800 miles to his NATO border. LOL! >> >>Putin does not care about those piddlers. Ukraine was seriously taken as >>a threat. > > Then Putin is a fool. Finland and Sweden piddlers compared to Ukraine's > military? Is there no end to the lies you'll tell yourself about > Putin's > incompetence? Putin is very wise. If any NATO state attacks Russia he will use nukes. He has made this clear. He knows that because Russia will use mukes they will not dare to attack. He did not want NATO to put nukes in Ukraine and the way to do that was to invade Ukraine. No nukes from Ukraine towards Russia, so Russia is safe from that direction. Not to invade would have been incompetent and unpatriotic. Ukraine's military was very powerful. The West wanted them to drive out Russians from Ukraine. So they were very well armed indeed and for years had been fighting the Russians in Ukraine, depriving them of their rights, etc. Of course without Western help Ukraine would have collapsed. Putin does not see Finland and Sweden as threats. No interest there. Poland yes has historically been an enemy but it was already hostile as part of Nato. > >>> His goal was to remove Zelensky and turn Ukraine into a puppet state. >>> 750,000 >>> dead and maimed Russians later, Zelensky is still in charge, admired >>> across the >>> planet and not only defending, but on the offensive. His nation, with >>> no navy, >>> has defeated the Russian Black Sea Fleet. >> >>Putin has no existential threat from hostile Nato state Ukraine. He has >>got extra rich property worth 12 trillion dollars. > > Considering Ukraine's GDP *before* the Russian invasion was less than > $200B, > your lie becomes quickly evident. Land value from conquest, some 15 percent of the largest country in pure Europe, is what the 12 t is about, nothing to do with GDP of Ukraine. Putin has got the size of the whole of England and more. Your stupidity may be ignored for you are but an Einsteinian cretin. Still, we try to put light within dark skills, futile as that effort may be. > >>Not bad. > > Considering what he stole is so heavily damaged it can't produce squat > anymore, > I'd say that far from being a master strategist, Putin is an ill advised > idiot. Unlike Biden and Johnson and other EU leaders he has got what he wanted. He has stopped the Ukraine army from shelling Russians. Liberated Crimea. Stopped Ukraine from joining Nato. Expanded Russia. Made the Western analysts look like absurd fools for their predictions. Has solid support from his own people and China too. Retains support from thirdworld. And now his buddy Trump will be potus and stop supporting Zelensky. Btw they have already repaired many cities they took. Hard working lots, the Russians. Fixed up the ruins of WW2, this is nothing by contrast. > >>Made fools >>out of the West, fooled their grabby desires. Now failing there, idea >>for the US is to grab Greenland etc. and should have better luck there. > > Now you're stopped making any sense at all. Russia has been made a fool > of. Its > military is crap, its Navy a laughing stock and its economy collapsing. Wrong on all counts. You Einsteinian cretins are a bad joke. You are habitually programmed to swallow lies from your masters via propaganda media. True that the Navy has got hits by new technology rockets but the rest is bullshit. Russia has made fools out of Nato bullies and EU ninnies. Russian economy has managed not to collapsed and moved on. Russian military has won 15% of Ukraine. They use far more firepower than Ukraine which means that they are losing far less soldiers. > >>> Putin has turned Russia into a vassal state of China and eliminated any >>> chance >>> of future greatness for his nation. >> >>Nonsense. Putin is on good terms with China and India and thirdworld, >>Great politician, outsmarted you fools. > > That must be why India has stopped buying Russian weapons. China, > ditto. India is making a fortune buying Russian oil cheap and selling it, thanks to US sanctions on Russia. Indians never had it so good, cheap petrol, huge profits, great distribution to the poor by handouts, very fat salaries for all elites... India always busy weapons from Russia. China is giving them sanctioned stuff. They > buy just enough to copy them so they don't have to buy anymore. Both > are > getting Russian energy dirt cheap because Putin can't sell it to anybody > else. India's main strike aircraft is Russian Su30mki. Lots of them. China and Russia have terrific trade. Then rocket launchers, tanks, guns, radars, helicopters, transport aircraft, submarines, > Even that's going away as his shadow tanker fleet sinks, spoiling > beaches, and > get confiscated for incompetence on the sea. No problem for India so far. The war has been a real bonanza for India. Huge tankers coming from all sides. > >>>>The West's strategy is to let the Orthodox >>>>chaps die and make Russia weak; that by using obsolete scrap weaponry >>>>for Ukraine continuing the war, while making money for the elites with >>>>orders for new weapons. >>> >>> The west doesn't even think about religion. >> >>What a lie. Maga chaps are very religious. > > LOL! MAGA isn't running the "west", you moron. Cretin, they elected Trump to power and if US is not part of the West that is news indeed. Anyway the West has lost miserably in Ukraine and the sooner it accepts that the better for all. > >>The 'strategy' has been to >>> do as >>> much damage as possible to Russia's military and international standing. >> >> >>Has not worked. Failed miserably. > > BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! > > Is that why Putin is depending on out of date and dud shells from North > Korea? To get and keep 15% of Ukraine depending upon foreign help and dud shells is something only a brainwashed Einsteinian cretin can envisage. > How about those heroic (/s) North Korean troops he had to buy because he > can't > get Russians to sign up anymore? If he declares war he can conscript as many millions ss he likes. Till then, he is using mercenaries. His best friend, Iran, is still using > American > F-14 Tomcats and Chinook helicopters built in the 1960s from 1950s > designs! They are using more potent and relevant defensive technologies to prevent invasions. > > NP: Paul Davis - Sweet Life > >>>>If Ukraine won it would be hugely in debt and thus under absolute >>>>control of the murky powers that would buy it all up cheap, with no >>>>effort at all save gorging together at conferences. >>> >>> Sure, in your dreams. Took the UK until the 21 century to pay off all >>> their >>> WWII debt. The Obama admin had to negotiate debt forgiveness for Russia >>> because >>> they couldn't pay. >>> >>>>The universe still runs on a moral basis, evidently, so such bastardy >>>>has not been rewarded with success. >>> >>> If it ran on a moral basis, Putin would be dead already. Well he is alive and well while Biden was backstabbed and dumped. >>> >>> NP: Rob Thomas - All That I Am
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vm9t73$37p8t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890687 |
Bertietaylor wrote: > Putin is very wise. If any NATO state attacks Russia he will use > nukes. > He has made this clear. He knows that because Russia will use > mukes they France and UK have submarine launchable nuclear weapons. They will nuke Russia even if idjt wimps out. > will not dare to attack. He did not want NATO to put nukes in Ukraine Why would we? USA can drop nuclear weapon anywhere in Russia from North Dakota. > and the way to do that was to invade Ukraine. No nukes from Ukraine > towards Russia, so Russia is safe from that direction. Not to invade > would have been incompetent and unpatriotic. How does that stop British and French nukes from the Atlantic? Everyone knows about MAD. The first one who uses nuclear weapons against the other loses the war for everyone. > Putin does not see Finland and Sweden as threats. No interest there. Which why he threatenned them if they tried to join NATO. > Poland yes has historically been an enemy but it was already > hostile as > part of Nato. NATO is not hostile to Russia. NATO is reactive not hostile. As long as Russia stays on their side of the Belarus border, no fighting. > Unlike Biden and Johnson and other EU leaders he has got what he > wanted. Can he keep it? > He has stopped the Ukraine army from shelling Russians. Liberated Ukraine is not dropping shells, rockets, and drones inside Russia? Since when? > India is making a fortune buying Russian oil cheap and selling it, > thanks to US sanctions on Russia. Indians never had it so good, cheap > petrol, huge profits, great distribution to the poor by handouts, > very Does not do Russia any good. > China and > Russia have terrific trade. China cannot use rubbles, so they are doing barter trade. >> How about those heroic (/s) North Korean troops he had to buy >> because he >> can't >> get Russians to sign up anymore? > > If he declares war he can conscript as many millions ss he likes. Why does he not? -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) |
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| Date | 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0ce48009c965b35892a28da512306de3@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #890692 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 3:08:17 +0000, Siri Cruise wrote: > Bertietaylor wrote: > >> Putin is very wise. If any NATO state attacks Russia he will use >> nukes. >> He has made this clear. He knows that because Russia will use >> mukes they > > France and UK have submarine launchable nuclear weapons. They will > nuke Russia even if idjt wimps out. Russia will retaliate if attacked, period. There is no need for any belligerence save to make money for billionaires. > >> will not dare to attack. He did not want NATO to put nukes in Ukraine > > Why would we? USA can drop nuclear weapon anywhere in Russia from > North Dakota. And get wiped out in return. Why the folly and pain? > >> and the way to do that was to invade Ukraine. No nukes from Ukraine >> towards Russia, so Russia is safe from that direction. Not to invade >> would have been incompetent and unpatriotic. > > How does that stop British and French nukes from the Atlantic? They were always there. Nothing new and irrelevant to the Ukraine situation. > > Everyone knows about MAD. The first one who uses nuclear weapons > against the other loses the war for everyone. Yes so no one is using them for now and that is good. > >> Putin does not see Finland and Sweden as threats. No interest there. > > Which why he threatenned them if they tried to join NATO. Why shouldn't he try to stop them. Why doesn't Nato let Russia join them? Then no problem. Nato wants enemies for survival meaning goodies for arms merchants, generals, pols, etc. Sickening. > >> Poland yes has historically been an enemy but it was already >> hostile as >> part of Nato. > > NATO is not hostile to Russia. NATO is reactive not hostile. As > long as Russia stays on their side of the Belarus border, no fighting. > Nato is Western domination's military arm. It should have gone after the cold water but exists to beat up nationalist countries showing anti dollar independent tendencies like Libya. >> Unlike Biden and Johnson and other EU leaders he has got what he >> wanted. > > Can he keep it? Yes. > >> He has stopped the Ukraine army from shelling Russians. Liberated > > Ukraine is not dropping shells, rockets, and drones inside Russia? > Since when? Minor scratches, for propaganda and extracting funds. Main idea behind the war is to let Russians weak, and billionaires richer. The latter has worked, not the former. To repeat Ukraine has lost 15% of the land and nearly all the coast worth 12 trillion dollars at minimal cost to Russia. No same person thinks Ukraine can win. Putin is alive and in power and Russia has not imploded. > >> India is making a fortune buying Russian oil cheap and selling it, >> thanks to US sanctions on Russia. Indians never had it so good, cheap >> petrol, huge profits, great distribution to the poor by handouts, >> very > > Does not do Russia any good. They get dollars from India by selling oil which they use to buy sanctioned goods from China. Win win for all three while Europeans freeze and pay higher prices. > >> China and >> Russia have terrific trade. > > China cannot use rubbles, so they are doing barter trade. They can use dollars which India sends Russia for the oil. India sends Russian oil to Saudi and their network gets used for global distribution. Saudi thus is making the world's tallest building as they too are rolling in money. Funny, what, beyond what the comedian Zelensky could ever come up. > >>> How about those heroic (/s) North Korean troops he had to buy >>> because he >>> can't >>> get Russians to sign up anymore? >> >> If he declares war he can conscript as many millions ss he likes. > > Why does he not? He wants Russians to live, enjoy life, be healthy and happy. His communist upbringing emphasizes fraternity, and decency, on a honestly altruistic basis. He is not composed of selfishness, vanity, greed and hypocrisy as are Western elites. Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs)
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vma6ci$3cntd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890693 |
Bertietaylor wrote: > He wants Russians to live, enjoy life, be healthy and happy. His > communist upbringing emphasizes fraternity, and decency, on a > honestly > altruistic basis. He is not composed of selfishness, vanity, greed > and > hypocrisy as are Western elites. > > Woof woof woof woof woof woof woof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn9KwssS2IA When RUSSIA LOST to a country with no coastline! No that title is not click bait, it actually happened! <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Baikal> In August 1918, the Czechoslovak Legion, under the leadership of Radola Gajda, fought the Red Army for control of the mountain passes around Lake Baikal which were well defended. Gajda was troubled by the fact that Baikal was completely under the control of the Red Army's ships, which threatened the Czechoslovak units with landing units to the legion's rear. While occupying various ports on the shores of the Baikal, the Czechoslovak legionaries managed to capture two enemy steamships, the Sibirjak and the Fedosia. These were later refitted with a pair of howitzers each. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vmd4ai$30hf$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #890693 |
On 1/15/25 11:21 PM, Bertietaylor wrote: > Nato wants enemies for survival meaning goodies for arms merchants Yes. By the way, now that Relf's got the ticket, my sci.physics' resident-"cook"-till-death "Jim Pennino" would probably be the next to get it. I would like to fart him out. So when the inevitable happens, do proceed to inform us here. If you have any death news of "whodat", same thing. Let me know so I could arrange to fart him out. These matters need proper closure.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <raboojtn6vfd20qgmgonsb8etu9sscu3sf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890693 |
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:21:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) wrote: >Why doesn't Nato let Russia join them? That was the plan in the nineties under Yeltsin. Too bad for Russia, Putin's belligerent determination to reconstruct the Russian Empire scotched that idea. NP: Tine Turner - Goldeneye (Live in Arnhem)
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 00:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XHOdnVJ5pMzjDxH6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #890730 |
On 1/18/25 5:40 PM, Governor Swill wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:21:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) > wrote: > >> Why doesn't Nato let Russia join them? > > That was the plan in the nineties under Yeltsin. Too bad for Russia, Putin's > belligerent determination to reconstruct the Russian Empire scotched that idea. Yep, Putin has said he's on a Holy Mission to revive the entire USSR. Xi is on a holy mission to grab Taiwan and some extra stuff. This is NOT good. (ummmmm ... why sci.physics ? we already know what happens if you put too much uranium together)
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 22:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vmi4gu$1hr48$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890740 |
186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/18/25 5:40 PM, Governor Swill wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:21:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >> (Bertietaylor) >> wrote: >> >>> Why doesn't Nato let Russia join them? >> >> That was the plan in the nineties under Yeltsin. Too bad for >> Russia, Putin's >> belligerent determination to reconstruct the Russian Empire >> scotched that idea. > > Yep, Putin has said he's on a Holy Mission to > revive the entire USSR. > > Xi is on a holy mission to grab Taiwan and some > extra stuff. And idjt agrees. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 00:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <duKdncAL4eh-RxD6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #890741 |
On 1/19/25 1:02 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: > 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> On 1/18/25 5:40 PM, Governor Swill wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:21:29 +0000, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com >>> (Bertietaylor) >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Why doesn't Nato let Russia join them? >>> >>> That was the plan in the nineties under Yeltsin. Too bad for Russia, >>> Putin's >>> belligerent determination to reconstruct the Russian Empire scotched >>> that idea. >> >> Yep, Putin has said he's on a Holy Mission to >> revive the entire USSR. >> >> Xi is on a holy mission to grab Taiwan and some >> extra stuff. > > And idjt agrees. ??? Putin has said outright that he wants to reconstitute the old USSR. It's his Quest. Xi has said outright that he's gonna take Taiwan, sees it as a huge National Pride thing. How is any of that unclear ? THIS is what we're dealing with now - powerful dictators with a crusader mentality. Kinda 1938 all over again. THAT worked out well, didn't it .......
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