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Who will take Russia's Far East ?

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First post2022-10-06 22:39 -0700
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  Who will take Russia's Far East ? "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-06 22:39 -0700
    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-07 02:37 -0400
      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 01:30 -0700
        smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-07 01:53 -0700
          Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-07 04:59 -0500
            Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Trolidan7 <Trolidan7@eternal-september.org> - 2022-10-07 12:24 -0700
              Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 04:16 -0700
          Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 04:41 -0700
          Re: smelly dictators control the media with an iron fist. Sergi o <invalid@invalid.com> - 2022-10-13 16:06 -0500
            Subsidies flow into the military industrial complex. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-13 19:53 -0700
              Re: Subsidies flow into the military industrial complex. Sergi o <invalid@invalid.com> - 2022-10-13 22:38 -0500
                Re: Subsidies flow into the military industrial complex. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 21:30 -0700
        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-07 15:26 -0400
          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 17:52 -0700
            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-08 02:14 -0400
              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 00:46 -0700
                Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-08 18:56 -0400
                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-08 18:42 -0500
                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 18:56 -0700
                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 19:59 -0700
                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-09 01:23 -0400
                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-09 00:24 -0700
                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-12 15:32 -0400
                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 03:25 -0700
                            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-13 11:55 -0400
                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-13 14:06 -0500
                                Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 15:17 -0700
                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 14:55 -0700
                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michel Marconi <iinc@lcrallem.or> - 2022-10-09 11:58 +0000
                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 22:37 -0700
                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-09 18:02 -0700
                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-10-10 03:10 -0700
                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 03:22 -0700
                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 22:56 -0700
                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-12 16:23 -0400
                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-12 17:33 -0500
                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Willian Ravenna <ewin@arnaanva.ne> - 2022-10-12 23:05 +0000
                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-12 19:11 -0500
                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-13 01:48 -0400
                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-12 23:53 -0700
                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 14:03 -0700
                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-15 14:10 -0700
                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-12 22:35 -0700
                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-13 12:41 -0400
                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 15:16 -0700
                            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-16 12:31 -0400
                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Everet Baldini <rvia@nildiden.ii> - 2022-10-16 16:45 +0000
                                Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-16 13:51 -0500
                                  Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 15:14 -0700
                                  Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 00:45 +0200
                                    Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 15:50 -0700
                                      Re: Newsgroup Insanity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-17 01:05 +0200
                                        Re: Newsgroup Insanity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 17:01 -0700
                                          Re: Newsgroup Insanity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-18 00:19 +0200
                                            Re: Newsgroup Insanity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 14:32 -0700
                                              Re: Newsgroup Insanity Sergi o <invalid@invalid.com> - 2022-10-19 14:47 -0500
                                                Re: Newsgroup Insanity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 15:17 -0700
                                  Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-17 01:45 -0400
                                    Re: Newsgroup Insanity (was Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ?) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-17 14:25 -0700
                                Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-18 21:58 +0000
                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-19 19:40 +0000
                              Dictators subsidize the military industrial complex. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-16 09:54 -0700
                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-16 14:04 -0500
                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 15:23 -0700
                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 16:55 -0700
                                Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-18 20:43 -0400
                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 19:30 -0700
                                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-20 01:24 -0400
                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 00:01 -0700
                                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-20 15:18 -0400
                                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 18:07 -0700
                                            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 22:53 -0700
                                            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-25 20:58 -0400
                                              Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-25 18:33 -0700
                                                Re: Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride. Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2022-10-26 02:02 +0000
                                                  Re: Joe Biden, Putin & Xi all suffer from the same disease: pride. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2022-10-25 19:34 -0700
                                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-25 18:37 -0700
                                                Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-26 16:22 -0400
                                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-26 15:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-27 06:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Timothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com> - 2022-10-27 08:39 -0700
                                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-30 16:29 -0700
                                                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-30 02:02 -0400
                                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wally Alescio <llew@wclasslc.oa> - 2022-10-30 11:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 07:55 -0500
                                                          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wally Alescio <llew@wclasslc.oa> - 2022-10-30 16:26 +0000
                                                            Jewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-30 14:36 -0700
                                                            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-30 16:37 -0500
                                                            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-30 17:37 -0400
                                                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Franz Salucci <uiin@cestales.ml> - 2022-10-31 10:58 +0000
                                                              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Buddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du> - 2022-10-31 16:32 +0000
                                                                Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-31 13:51 -0400
                                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-31 12:54 -0400
                                                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Buddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du> - 2022-10-31 16:57 +0000
                                      Too many dictators. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-20 03:02 -0700
                                        Re: Too many dictators. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-10-20 10:48 -0400
                                          Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-20 08:23 -0700
                                            Re: Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus. Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-20 15:36 +0000
                                              Too weak to care ? "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-20 09:20 -0700
                                        Too many kooks chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2022-10-20 17:19 -0500
                                          Re: Too many kooks % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2022-10-20 16:16 -0700
                                          Re: Too many kooks Timothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 04:59 -0700
                                          Re: Too many kooks The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-10-21 21:44 -0700
                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Wilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia> - 2022-10-20 15:05 +0000
                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-19 00:33 -0500
                                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-18 23:11 -0700
                                    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-19 19:07 -0500
                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 18:18 -0700
                                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-10-20 00:07 -0500
                                        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 23:23 -0700
                                  Dictatorships rule. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-19 01:23 -0700
                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 03:16 -0700
                                  Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-19 05:09 -0700
                      Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-13 15:19 -0700
              The damage done to Russia's Crimean bridge. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-08 02:08 -0700
                Come 2024... "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-10-08 15:00 -0700
        Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-07 22:07 -0500
          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 04:08 -0700
            Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Physfit Freak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 22:42 -0700
              Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-10-08 23:10 -0700
          Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2022-10-11 00:44 +0200
    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Donald Richardson <drich@hotmail.net> - 2022-10-08 10:20 -0700
    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2022-10-16 19:31 -0700
    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? He <enihcamgnimag@hotmail.com> - 2022-10-19 09:48 -0700
    Re: Who will take Russia's Far East ? Shining star <he12091983@gmail.com> - 2022-10-21 08:20 -0700

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#863552

FromTimothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-27 08:39 -0700
Message-ID<ad36afe8-a00e-4d4d-9d9d-f7d91a46d1e0n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#863547
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 9:56:14 AM UTC-4, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 27 October 2022 at 07:22:35 UTC+11, Michael Moroney wrote: 
> > On 10/25/2022 9:37 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 11:58:36 UTC+11, Michael Moroney wrote: 
> > >> On 10/20/2022 9:07 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> <snip all> 
> > >> 
> > >> I have concluded that you've swallowed the Russian propaganda hook, 
> > >> line, sinker, rod, reel and boat, and you have fixed ideas that can 
> > >> never be changed (like your crashing armatures mean anything useful), 
> > >> and I can never counter the propaganda arm of Russia. 
> > > 
> > > I follow the thinking of Prof. Mearsheimer, who does not look like a Russian propagandist. 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM 
> > If he ignores/overlooks the ethnic cleansing (war crime) that Russia has 
> > been doing, he's either a very poor source for you, or he's swallowed 
> > the Russian propaganda hook, line, sinker, rod, reel and boat, just as 
> > you have. 
> > > Unlike you, and other ignorant and morally dead morons, he is a leading expert in his field, of international relations, and what he says is based upon facts. 
> > The Russian's "facts"?
> What Prof. Mearsheimer says as undeniable truths, that are well-known and beyond dispute. 
> I take it that minimal research can verify them or debunk them.
> > > 
> > > Not, then, your style of blind denial, lies, abuse etc. meant to carry on the war for the bad of the Ukrainians and Russians; and good for the profits of the US military industrial complex, oil companies, etc. from which the lazy lots get trickle-down benefits. 
> > No, I am not in favor of this windfall for the MIC. But again, blame 
> > Russia, not me. They started this warm not me.
> According to Prof. Mearsheimer, thanks to USA's belligerent policy against Russia, absorbing former Soviet satellites within NATO and arming Ukraine, creating a coup there, etc. Russia was forced to invade to save their own existence. He said that any nation when faced with such an existential threat will have to behave as Russia did. Israel did that, making a pre-emptive attack in 1967, 

He is not alone either. Douglas MacGregor is another. Scott Ritter a third. Richard Black as well.
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiBR6Z16tXxC5mQO3nsSBEg
These people feel compelled to speak out. They have far more knowledge than we do.
I am opposed to military pursuits, so I won't rely on these people as leaders.
What it adds up to is that this Ukraine war is a big mistake and the shallow level of propaganda that the West is engaged in somewhat acts as an indicator. Double down; Russiagate was a farce from the beginning. Some blame Hillary Clinton. I blame the deep state. 


> Prof. Mearsheimer is very clear in his conclusion that US was responsible for the invasion, which had to happen when Putin saw US action in Ukraine (interfering with the outing of a pro-Russian govt., encircling Russia with NATO, potentially putting missiles in Ukraine, after arming them for an attack) as intolerable. When added to the stoppage of water to Crimea, hostile action in the Donbass, and the historical ties, persecution allegations - he had to invade, or else imperil his country. Such is his analysis. He says that this follows a long-standing trend in international relations, which is as we all know, might is right. Thus, Putin has used his might to keep Crimea and get much of the Donbass.
> > > I have long concluded that you are a moronic bigot 
> > Of course you have. That's one reason why you're a failure at physics.
> Only a sour moron like you will think that I am a failure at physics. I have outed bad physics, the e=mcc=hv stuff, and improved good physics by throwing out entropy. Huge advances, that open the door to the stars. 
> I am a success at everything. Principally, in family matters, but also in many others, such as my education, employment and hobbies. 
> I stand in the ranks of Newton, Galileo, and da Vinci, in science; and with Homer and Kalidas in literature. 
> And with the very best, in other areas of my interest (cooking, acting, reciting).
> > Rather than accept criticism, you go with made up excuses of 
> > bigotry/racism. Myself, I respect the Indian scientists/engineers I've 
> > seen here. Unlike you, they worked hard to excel at what they do.
> By the grace of the Great Goddess Kali, I have excelled in every field that I have been involved. 
> Yes, I have had to work hard, but under Her infallible direction, I have never failed. 
> Being so divinely blessed, gives me the edge over the sedulous atheists, wrapped in permanent denial.
> > > who rejects my new advances in physics as they upset your psychological makeup; you follow the adage, the lie that soothes is better than ten thousand truths. Up to a point I can sympathise with that, but not beyond, such as when the future of humanity is involved. 
> > Bla bla bla, excuses excuses.
> Silly moron, you cannot even comprehend simple English. But you must make noises.'
> > > 
> > > Your lies about me pushing the armature were easily exposed with the better version of the low voltage heavy armature rail gun that I made. 
> > Because there's no way to tell.
> This is a ridiculous lie, unless you are blind - and single with no one tell you what is happening in the video. Plus,, just idiotic.
> > It's what snake oil salesmen do when 
> > selling their product.
> No, they do not. Snake oil salesmen want money from deception, by hand-waving, not by showing experiments where there is no scope for hokey-pokey, and those experiments anyone can repeat. 
> Yes, Einsteinian pseudo-scientists are all snake oil salesmen, selling their bogus products for much gain. If you think I am one of them, you are not a moron, you are an imbecile.
> > You match the description of a snake oil 
> > salesman. Are you?
> Not at all, imbecile.
> > You don't show the numbers which should prove your 
> > "discovery".
> First let all agree that I am not pushing the armature in the rail gun, which means I have made a new invention, the low voltage heavy armature electromagnetic rail gun. 
> Can you agree to that, or will you remain a surly blind bigoted imbecile pretending to be a scientist? 
> Once it is allowed that I have made a rail gun, then the discovery component will come, with numbers. 
> Which are certainly present in the third video film below, which tells numerically the distance the centre of gravity has moved in the first stroke of the motor - an appreciable amount. Inertia was thus violated, meaning that for the is case the law of conservation of momentum was not applicable, meaning a new kind of reactionless electric motor can be constructed for proper space conquest and very fast travel in near space. 
> So numbers are there, for those not willfully blind.
> > > Who can think I am pushing the armature in: 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0 
> > > and who can think I have not made a modern rail gun of immense potential as shown in 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6pjy0Wvujs&t=19s 
> > > which can be turned into a reactionless motor for space conquest as shown in 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc&t=2s 
> > Given how disappointing your first video was, I'll put these on my list 
> > to watch...at the bottom...they'll come up someday...
> How was the first video disappointing? 
> It showed the functioning of a new invention, the the low voltage heavy armature electromagnetic rail gun. 
> Surely someone claiming to be interested in physics should find that interesting? 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Arindam Banerjee 
> 
> - snip -

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#863698

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2022-10-30 16:29 -0700
Message-ID<c7d64278-2483-4e76-b2c4-13f5111b9b31n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#863552
On Friday, 28 October 2022 at 02:39:05 UTC+11, Timothy Golden wrote:
> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 9:56:14 AM UTC-4, banerjee...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Thursday, 27 October 2022 at 07:22:35 UTC+11, Michael Moroney wrote: 
> > > On 10/25/2022 9:37 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> > > > On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 11:58:36 UTC+11, Michael Moroney wrote: 
> > > >> On 10/20/2022 9:07 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> <snip all> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> I have concluded that you've swallowed the Russian propaganda hook, 
> > > >> line, sinker, rod, reel and boat, and you have fixed ideas that can 
> > > >> never be changed (like your crashing armatures mean anything useful), 
> > > >> and I can never counter the propaganda arm of Russia. 
> > > > 
> > > > I follow the thinking of Prof. Mearsheimer, who does not look like a Russian propagandist. 
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM 
> > > If he ignores/overlooks the ethnic cleansing (war crime) that Russia has 
> > > been doing, he's either a very poor source for you, or he's swallowed 
> > > the Russian propaganda hook, line, sinker, rod, reel and boat, just as 
> > > you have. 
> > > > Unlike you, and other ignorant and morally dead morons, he is a leading expert in his field, of international relations, and what he says is based upon facts. 
> > > The Russian's "facts"? 
> > What Prof. Mearsheimer says as undeniable truths, that are well-known and beyond dispute. 
> > I take it that minimal research can verify them or debunk them. 
> > > > 
> > > > Not, then, your style of blind denial, lies, abuse etc. meant to carry on the war for the bad of the Ukrainians and Russians; and good for the profits of the US military industrial complex, oil companies, etc. from which the lazy lots get trickle-down benefits. 
> > > No, I am not in favor of this windfall for the MIC. But again, blame 
> > > Russia, not me. They started this warm not me. 
> > According to Prof. Mearsheimer, thanks to USA's belligerent policy against Russia, absorbing former Soviet satellites within NATO and arming Ukraine, creating a coup there, etc. Russia was forced to invade to save their own existence. He said that any nation when faced with such an existential threat will have to behave as Russia did. Israel did that, making a pre-emptive attack in 1967,
> He is not alone either. Douglas MacGregor is another. Scott Ritter a third. Richard Black as well. 
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiBR6Z16tXxC5mQO3nsSBEg 
> These people feel compelled to speak out. They have far more knowledge than we do. 
> I am opposed to military pursuits, so I won't rely on these people as leaders. 
> What it adds up to is that this Ukraine war is a big mistake and the shallow level of propaganda that the West is engaged in somewhat acts as an indicator. Double down; Russiagate was a farce from the beginning. Some blame Hillary Clinton. I blame the deep state.

I blame everyone in power, especially the professors of physics.  
Had they all agreed that Einstein is wrong and Tesla is right, they would have paid attention to my new ideas in my book "To the Stars!" published online for all to read in 2000.
Instead of fighting each other, there would be global unity and enthusiasm, with regular trips to the Moon and back, very fast air travel, energy issues resolved, etc.
No fool like a professor.

> > Prof. Mearsheimer is very clear in his conclusion that US was responsible for the invasion, which had to happen when Putin saw US action in Ukraine (interfering with the outing of a pro-Russian govt., encircling Russia with NATO, potentially putting missiles in Ukraine, after arming them for an attack) as intolerable. When added to the stoppage of water to Crimea, hostile action in the Donbass, and the historical ties, persecution allegations - he had to invade, or else imperil his country. Such is his analysis. He says that this follows a long-standing trend in international relations, which is as we all know, might is right. Thus, Putin has used his might to keep Crimea and get much of the Donbass. 
> > > > I have long concluded that you are a moronic bigot 
> > > Of course you have. That's one reason why you're a failure at physics. 
> > Only a sour moron like you will think that I am a failure at physics. I have outed bad physics, the e=mcc=hv stuff, and improved good physics by throwing out entropy. Huge advances, that open the door to the stars. 
> > I am a success at everything. Principally, in family matters, but also in many others, such as my education, employment and hobbies. 
> > I stand in the ranks of Newton, Galileo, and da Vinci, in science; and with Homer and Kalidas in literature. 
> > And with the very best, in other areas of my interest (cooking, acting, reciting). 
> > > Rather than accept criticism, you go with made up excuses of 
> > > bigotry/racism. Myself, I respect the Indian scientists/engineers I've 
> > > seen here. Unlike you, they worked hard to excel at what they do. 
> > By the grace of the Great Goddess Kali, I have excelled in every field that I have been involved. 
> > Yes, I have had to work hard, but under Her infallible direction, I have never failed. 
> > Being so divinely blessed, gives me the edge over the sedulous atheists, wrapped in permanent denial. 
> > > > who rejects my new advances in physics as they upset your psychological makeup; you follow the adage, the lie that soothes is better than ten thousand truths. Up to a point I can sympathise with that, but not beyond, such as when the future of humanity is involved. 
> > > Bla bla bla, excuses excuses. 
> > Silly moron, you cannot even comprehend simple English. But you must make noises.' 
> > > > 
> > > > Your lies about me pushing the armature were easily exposed with the better version of the low voltage heavy armature rail gun that I made. 
> > > Because there's no way to tell. 
> > This is a ridiculous lie, unless you are blind - and single with no one tell you what is happening in the video. Plus,, just idiotic. 
> > > It's what snake oil salesmen do when 
> > > selling their product. 
> > No, they do not. Snake oil salesmen want money from deception, by hand-waving, not by showing experiments where there is no scope for hokey-pokey, and those experiments anyone can repeat. 
> > Yes, Einsteinian pseudo-scientists are all snake oil salesmen, selling their bogus products for much gain. If you think I am one of them, you are not a moron, you are an imbecile. 
> > > You match the description of a snake oil 
> > > salesman. Are you? 
> > Not at all, imbecile. 
> > > You don't show the numbers which should prove your 
> > > "discovery". 
> > First let all agree that I am not pushing the armature in the rail gun, which means I have made a new invention, the low voltage heavy armature electromagnetic rail gun. 
> > Can you agree to that, or will you remain a surly blind bigoted imbecile pretending to be a scientist? 
> > Once it is allowed that I have made a rail gun, then the discovery component will come, with numbers. 
> > Which are certainly present in the third video film below, which tells numerically the distance the centre of gravity has moved in the first stroke of the motor - an appreciable amount. Inertia was thus violated, meaning that for the is case the law of conservation of momentum was not applicable, meaning a new kind of reactionless electric motor can be constructed for proper space conquest and very fast travel in near space. 
> > So numbers are there, for those not willfully blind. 
> > > > Who can think I am pushing the armature in: 
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0 
> > > > and who can think I have not made a modern rail gun of immense potential as shown in 
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6pjy0Wvujs&t=19s 
> > > > which can be turned into a reactionless motor for space conquest as shown in 
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc&t=2s 
> > > Given how disappointing your first video was, I'll put these on my list 
> > > to watch...at the bottom...they'll come up someday... 
> > How was the first video disappointing? 
> > It showed the functioning of a new invention, the the low voltage heavy armature electromagnetic rail gun. 
> > Surely someone claiming to be interested in physics should find that interesting? 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > Arindam Banerjee 
> > 
> > - snip -

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#863678

FromMichael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Date2022-10-30 02:02 -0400
Message-ID<tjl41d$8d3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#863547
It looks like Ukraine got the drop on Russia once again. Several boat 
drones attacked the naval base at Sevastopol, Crimea. Details unclear, 
but between two and four ships of the Black Sea fleet, including the 
Admiral Makarov. The Admiral Makarov is the current flagship of the 
Russian Black Sea fleet, after the Moskva got promoted to submarine duty 
in April. (watch out for Putler having a meltdown and launching a half 
billion dollars worth of missiles at playgrounds and apartment buildings 
again. Ukrainians may want to seek refuge at military facilities, much 
less likely to be attacked there)

What's this? A country with no navy damages the Flagship of the Black 
Sea fleet, not once but twice? Including a sinking?

I am beginning to admire the cleverness of the Ukrainians more and more. 
They likely developed those boat drones themselves. They were largely 
the brains behind the Soviet Union, with most of the scientists and 
engineers, including the Soviet space program that was always ahead of 
the US in the early days. That's got to be why Putler is trying to annex 
Ukraine. No Soviet Union V2.0 without Ukraine.

I also saw an ad for a funny Ukrainian product. A highly detailed model 
tractor towing a Russian tank. Made entirely of wood (no glue), except 
for the tank, which is paper, and MAYBE the motive power. Something like 
350 pieces, takes 7 hours to assemble, it steers and drives under its 
own power. About 5 years ago I bought on Ebay a joke device. A USB drive 
connected to an old vacuum tube, which would glow orange when plugged 
in. I didn't see it in the description but it came with a little wooden 
storage box, hand made. It was from Ukraine, which didn't mean much to me.

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#863683

FromWally Alescio <llew@wclasslc.oa>
Date2022-10-30 11:46 +0000
Message-ID<tjlo6r$4s0e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#863678
Michael Moroney wrote:

> It looks like Ukraine got the drop on Russia once again. Several boat
> drones attacked the naval base at Sevastopol, Crimea. Details unclear,
> but

all of which intercepted and discarded, you persevered stinking old lying 
shit. And it was NOT the oligarch fictitious NOT existent "uKraine", but 
the UK english pigs and the cacamerican lying pigs, both of which are 
proven *_state_terrorists_*. You live in a terrorist state, you stinking 
bitch of a whore. Your heads of state are corrupt deformed homos and the 
fucking europe is NOT japan, bitch. You are already fucked up.

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#863686

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-10-30 07:55 -0500
Message-ID<js7ah7Fitv4U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#863683
On 10/30/2022 6:46 AM, Wally Alescio wrote:
> Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
>> It looks like Ukraine got the drop on Russia once again. Several boat
>> drones attacked the naval base at Sevastopol, Crimea. Details unclear,
>> but
> 
> all of which intercepted and discarded, you persevered stinking old lying
> shit. And it was NOT the oligarch fictitious NOT existent "uKraine", but
> the UK english pigs and the cacamerican lying pigs, both of which are
> proven *_state_terrorists_*. You live in a terrorist state, you stinking
> bitch of a whore. Your heads of state are corrupt deformed homos and the
> fucking europe is NOT japan, bitch. You are already fucked up.

So you're trying to resurrect this thread because you've run out of
steam?

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#863689

FromWally Alescio <llew@wclasslc.oa>
Date2022-10-30 16:26 +0000
Message-ID<tjm8k2$73iu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#863686
whodat wrote:

> On 10/30/2022 6:46 AM, Wally Alescio wrote:
>> Michael Moroney wrote:
>> 
>>> It looks like Ukraine got the drop on Russia once again. Several boat
>>> drones attacked the naval base at Sevastopol, Crimea. Details unclear,
>>> but
>> 
>> all of which intercepted and discarded, you persevered stinking old
>> lying shit. And it was NOT the oligarch fictitious NOT existent
>> "uKraine", but the UK english pigs and the cacamerican lying pigs, both
>> of which are proven *_state_terrorists_*. You live in a terrorist
>> state, you stinking bitch of a whore. Your heads of state are corrupt
>> deformed homos and the fucking europe is NOT japan, bitch. You are
>> already fucked up.
> 
> So you're trying to resurrect this thread because you've run out of
> steam?

can't you follow links to the empiric data, you lying old bitch. Being old 
and lying, you disgusting pig.

Drone footage from the amphibious British kamikaze drone in Sevastopol this 
morning... https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/qJVppmsooFKi/

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#863694 — Jewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler.

From"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me>
Date2022-10-30 14:36 -0700
SubjectJewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.30--2.36pm.Seattle.2022>
In reply to#863689
"The Moscow Times", July 29, 2022:
//  Russia’s population shrank by a record average of 86,000 people a 
//  month between January and May, state statistics agency Rosstat has said.  

That's a loss of ~1 million people/year !

Like America & East Asia, Russia's "fertility rate" is below replacement levels.
America's population only grows via immigration, not by births exceeding deaths.

A (Seattle) man, I maximize my independence.
Marriage is dangerous for men, here in America.

Jewish Ukraine is LGBTQ+ friendly & Putin is mimicking Hitler.

Celebrate our differences, please !

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#863695

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2022-10-30 16:37 -0500
Message-ID<js894kFn1qnU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#863689
On 10/30/2022 11:26 AM, Wally Alescio wrote:
> whodat wrote:
> 
>> On 10/30/2022 6:46 AM, Wally Alescio wrote:
>>> Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like Ukraine got the drop on Russia once again. Several boat
>>>> drones attacked the naval base at Sevastopol, Crimea. Details unclear,
>>>> but
>>>
>>> all of which intercepted and discarded, you persevered stinking old
>>> lying shit. And it was NOT the oligarch fictitious NOT existent
>>> "uKraine", but the UK english pigs and the cacamerican lying pigs, both
>>> of which are proven *_state_terrorists_*. You live in a terrorist
>>> state, you stinking bitch of a whore. Your heads of state are corrupt
>>> deformed homos and the fucking europe is NOT japan, bitch. You are
>>> already fucked up.
>>
>> So you're trying to resurrect this thread because you've run out of
>> steam?
> 
> can't you follow links to the empiric data, you lying old bitch. Being old
> and lying, you disgusting pig.

Thanks for clearly pointing out that you don't actually have a handle on
what you are doing.

> Drone footage from the amphibious British kamikaze drone in Sevastopol this
> morning... https://%62%69%74%63%68%75%74%65.com/video/qJVppmsooFKi/

This has relevance to sci.physics and math how? You're still low on
steam.

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#863696

FromMichael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Date2022-10-30 17:37 -0400
Message-ID<tjmqqk$1g7k$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#863689
On 10/30/2022 12:26 PM, Wally Alescio wrote:
> whodat wrote:
> 
>> On 10/30/2022 6:46 AM, Wally Alescio wrote:
>>> Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like Ukraine got the drop on Russia once again. Several boat
>>>> drones attacked the naval base at Sevastopol, Crimea. Details unclear,
>>>> but
>>>
>>> all of which intercepted and discarded, you persevered stinking old
>>> lying shit. And it was NOT the oligarch fictitious NOT existent
>>> "uKraine", but the UK english pigs and the cacamerican lying pigs, both
>>> of which are proven *_state_terrorists_*. You live in a terrorist
>>> state, you stinking bitch of a whore. Your heads of state are corrupt
>>> deformed homos and the fucking europe is NOT japan, bitch. You are
>>> already fucked up.
>>
>> So you're trying to resurrect this thread because you've run out of
>> steam?
> 
> can't you follow links to the empiric data, you lying old bitch. Being old
> and lying, you disgusting pig.

Hey nymshifter, maybe if you didn't keep crossposting your lies to 
multiple groups he wouldn't see your post to what appears to be an old 
thread.
> 
> Drone footage from the amphibious British kamikaze drone in Sevastopol this
> morning...

Sorry, bitchute is nothing but crackpot posts.

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#863715

FromFranz Salucci <uiin@cestales.ml>
Date2022-10-31 10:58 +0000
Message-ID<tjo9om$fr6s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#863696
Michael Moroney wrote:
>> can't you follow links to the empiric data, you lying old bitch. Being
>> old and lying, you disgusting pig.
> 
> Hey nymshifter, maybe if you didn't keep crossposting your lies to
> multiple groups he wouldn't see your post to what appears to be an old
> thread.
>> 
>> Drone footage from the amphibious British kamikaze drone in Sevastopol
>> this morning...
> 
> Sorry, bitchute is nothing but crackpot posts.

are you unbelievable sure?? It looks like you too are old an lying. What's 
the point in lying when you are old. You get old, you stop lying. This is 
it.

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#863724

FromBuddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du>
Date2022-10-31 16:32 +0000
Message-ID<tjota2$hh13$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#863696
Michael Moroney wrote:

>> can't you follow links to the empiric data, you lying old bitch. Being
>> old and lying, you disgusting pig.
> 
> Hey nymshifter, maybe if you didn't keep crossposting your lies to
> multiple groups he wouldn't see your post to what appears to be an old
> thread.

this guy is stupid. Old and lying. It makes no sense. Once you are old, you 
stop lying.

Roger Waters named on far-right Ukrainian hit list
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/08/25/wwmt-a25.html

The Kiev-based website Myrotvorets has accused musician Roger Waters, a 
founding member of rock group Pink Floyd, of “anti-Ukrainian” offenses. 
These alleged offenses include spreading “anti-Ukrainian propaganda,” 
collaborating in efforts to legalize Russia’s annexation of Crimea and 
challenging Ukraine’s territorial integrity. 

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#863732

FromMichael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Date2022-10-31 13:51 -0400
Message-ID<tjp1u9$iv9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#863724
On 10/31/2022 12:32 PM, Buddie Fiore wrote:

> Roger Waters named on far-right Ukrainian hit list

> The Kiev-based website Myrotvorets has accused musician Roger Waters, a
> founding member of rock group Pink Floyd, of “anti-Ukrainian” offenses.

And Pink Floyd themselves released a single supporting Ukraine 'Hey Hey 
Rise Up'. Buy it today!

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#863728

FromMichael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Date2022-10-31 12:54 -0400
Message-ID<tjoujs$q4n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#863678
On 10/30/2022 2:02 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> (watch out for Putler having a meltdown and launching a half billion 
> dollars worth of missiles at playgrounds and apartment buildings again. 
> Ukrainians may want to seek refuge at military facilities, much less 
> likely to be attacked there)

Just as I predicted, Putler had a meltdown and the 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ians卐 
launched 50 missiles and a bunch of drones this AM. Ukraine shot down 44 
of 50+ missiles (Kh-555 missile $7.5-12 million each) but the remainder 
and many drones hit electrical infrastructure and apartment buildings. 
Also as I mentioned, military bases were safe.

Imagine how many Russian villages could get a proper sewer system for 
the cost of 50 missiles instead. Or is the plan to make Ukraine more 
like Russia so the Ukrainians won't care whether their actual rulers are 
in Kyiv or Moscow?

I guess they gave up on the claim of being there to "deSatanize" Ukraine 
already. The latest 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 boogeyman claim? Ukrainian 
bioengineered combat mosquitoes 🦟! (And the British were really behind 
the sea drone attacks).

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#863730

FromBuddie Fiore <inbe@iieuedi.du>
Date2022-10-31 16:57 +0000
Message-ID<tjouqc$hh13$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#863728
Michael Moroney wrote:

> On 10/30/2022 2:02 AM, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> (watch out for Putler having a meltdown and launching a half billion
>> dollars worth of missiles at playgrounds and apartment buildings again.
>> Ukrainians may want to seek refuge at military facilities, much less
>> likely to be attacked there)
> 
> Just as I predicted, Putler had a meltdown and the 卐Ru⚡︎⚡︎ians卐 launched
> 50 missiles and a bunch of drones this AM. Ukraine shot down 44 of 50+

didn't we agree you stop lying when you are old. Stop the fucking lying. It 
makes no sense. You are old.

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#863265 — Too many dictators.

From"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me>
Date2022-10-20 03:02 -0700
SubjectToo many dictators.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--3.02am.Seattle.2022>
In reply to#863255
Too many dictators.     Russia is about to take Kyiv.
Russia & China's glory days are over.  
Democrats have become the party of the (clueless) rich.

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#863266 — Re: Too many dictators.

FromMichael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com>
Date2022-10-20 10:48 -0400
SubjectRe: Too many dictators.
Message-ID<tirn4g$104v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#863265
On 10/20/2022 6:02 AM, Relf wrote:
> Too many dictators.     Russia is about to take Kyiv.

You've been living under a rock for the past half year or so?

The Russians ran away from Kyiv back in April!

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#863271 — Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.

From"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me>
Date2022-10-20 08:23 -0700
SubjectToday, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--8.23am.Seattle.2022>
In reply to#863266
You (Moroney) replied ( to me ):
> > Russia is about to take Kyiv.
> 
> You've been living under a rock for the past half year or so?

No, not like you.

> The Russians ran away from Kyiv back in April!

So ?!

Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.

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#863272 — Re: Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.

FromWilbert Sciacca <wcsc@iccstcwa.ia>
Date2022-10-20 15:36 +0000
SubjectRe: Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.
Message-ID<tirpud$bsvk$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#863271
Relf wrote:

> You (Moroney) replied ( to me ):
>> > Russia is about to take Kyiv.
>> 
>> You've been living under a rock for the past half year or so?
> 
> No, not like you.
> 
>> The Russians ran away from Kyiv back in April!
> 
> So ?! Today, Russia strikes Kyiv as Russian troops move into Belarus.

yes they did, since that moron of putina, had an agreement with the cocaine 
zelenske, about a pace. To show his *greatness* the stoopid putina ordered 
the army to move out of that *nazi_shithole*, said kiev.

plus that the putina ordered *NOT* to destroy communication channels, as 
massmedia, TV, radios, *the_decision_making_centers*, bridges, electricity 
supply, rail ways, etc etc and etc, used now by the 
*propaganda_bitches_nato*, and the *unfriendly_countries* to bring *deadly* 
weapons into the fucking *nazi_fictitious* NOT existent "uKraine". These 
imbeciles of america still thinks "uKraine" is a country, not a region of 
Russia. Amazing, even the Russians bought into this false thing.

these nazi wankers of "uKraine" are murderers, guilty of *genocide* 
especially against the Polish people, killed in hundreds of thousands by 
these nazi criminals, the "west" are supporting for *one* only reason, 
*to_kill*.

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#863274 — Too weak to care ?

From"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me>
Date2022-10-20 09:20 -0700
SubjectToo weak to care ?
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.20--9.20am.Seattle.2022>
In reply to#863272
Today's dictators only care about subsidizing the military industrial complex,
the couldn't care less about Ukraine herself ( too weak to care ? ).

Ideally, Ukraine would be neutral, like Serbia.

Russia & China's glory days are over.  

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#863295 — Too many kooks

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2022-10-20 17:19 -0500
SubjectToo many kooks
Message-ID<g9i3lhdsda4fjbg4nv69kavrhnb5ngtjgb@4ax.com>
In reply to#863265
Relf wrote:

>Too many dictators.     Russia is about to take Kyiv.
>Russia & China's glory days are over.  

Putin is a kook.  Xi is a kook.  Why can't we all get along?

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